I know it has been discussed before. With that said, as Shurmur continues to stumble, the thought of a regime change grows, AGAIN.
To that, given that Bill B really liked what he saw in Daniel Jones and the current state of our coaching is not living up to expectations, is there one last run in him somewhere else, perhaps here?
Getty himself said he wants nothing more than to set the team up with a new QB, before retiring to the Cape. He is on a 3-4 year time frame, max.
We all know Bill's love of the organization. It takes a lot for the guy to break down in tears. That is exactly what he did when they ran the documentary of the Bill's in the old stadium. "I never thought it would end this way."
I think equally, he would love to win at least one as the head coach of this organization, one time, without Brady. I have to believe it is in his bucket list. No?
The question is, does Mara have the chops to pull it off?
He's the greatest of all time. I think the Giants are the ONLY other gig he would take. Let's not forget him and Kraft pretty much hate each other.
Just like a genius kid constantly needs new challenges. I think he would really love one new shot at starting fresh.
My take. Winning one with the Giants, would bolster his legacy more than 3 more with the Pats.
Doesn't mean it will though.
Mara has to be growing super worried that this constant carousel of coaches and lack of success is hurting business, fan loyalty, his seat at the NFL table.
I think he would absolutely try to move heaven and earth to make it happen. And frankly, I don't think Getty would mind going more into an advisory role ahead of retirement. I'm unsure if he even wants to be GM more than a couple years. Again, words out of his mouth.
Far crazier things have happened.
2. I think he has been grooming his son so this will be a big factor imo. Would he rather his son to continue on New England or with the Giants?
3. If he gave up coaching maybe he just runs the New England front office, McDaniels takes over and his son is the DC? Or maybe coach the Giants and pass it along to Mcdaniels and his son and run the front office?
2. I think he has been grooming his son so this will be a big factor imo. Would he rather his son to continue on New England or with the Giants?
3. If he gave up coaching maybe he just runs the New England front office, McDaniels takes over and his son is the DC? Or maybe coach the Giants and pass it along to Mcdaniels and his son and run the front office?
I just think right now, with favorable cap freeing up, a youthful team, a future QB in place....I think the small window is right now. McDaniels takes over in NE, Bill and his son come to NJ.
BBI started in 1995, when Giants fans were quickly souring on Dan Reeves.
Back then, some original BBIers suggested we contact Bill Parcells about coming back.
Most (probably me included) said that was a pipe dream.
Later we learned that Parcells did have some interest, but the Giants apparent did not.
Stranger things have happened.
That said, I doubt he has interest.
That said, I doubt he has interest.
He's always had a soft spot for the Giants. The emotion he showed in the two Bills documentary spoke volumes to me.
The real question is whether or not ownership would ever allow him to be the de facto GM.
Although he is the GOAT, it goes without saying the two GOATS (him and Brady) would only fortify their status by doing it un-tethered from the other.
McDaniels is already being groomed as the heir to the thrown. Brady not going anywhere.
Giants, unlike two years ago, probably have their QB of the future, who Bill B wanted later in the first. Bill B doesn't mess around with first rounders.
Cap is opening up, a lot of the dead weight gone. Plenty of flexibility for him to draft/sign his guys for his system.
Ownership loves him, he's one of us. Equally he loves the franchise.
Shurmur is not the guy, and frankly Bill doesn't need to keep winning in NE. Frankly, he doesn't need anything but a boat and a good scotch. But a challenge, that is truly unique.
He comes home, ends it where he started, and passes the torch to his son. Who I believe he wants working under the Mara's versus Kraft.
He won't go anywhere else.
Always found that an odd answer from him. For one he'd usually just ignore questions like that and not even bother, but also the use of the words "right now" stuck out to me. He could have just said my focus is on the Titans, but he added the "right now" which is another unusual thing for him to do when dealing with the media.
Who knows.
You would have thought that with the amount of time that has passed, his greater (by far) professional success in New England, and the way the Giants passed on him as a future HC, he wouldn't feel that strongly about the organization anymore. But at least publicly, he seems to still admire the team.
Not surprising to me that he still has a place in his heart for the Giants.
In essence, "I helped get the greatest coach of all time back in our house, plus our future QB."
It would put Getty into mythical status. It would be the ultimate drop mic moment for a GM, as he sails off into the Cape Cod sunset
You are probably correct, but this was the same argument made about Parcells back in the 1990s. And we LATER found out that Parcells WAS interested.
I like DG and what he has done for the most part, but if I owned the team I'd jettison him in a second if that's what it took. Although they could probably work something out, DG remains GM and is in charge of scouting, BB is coach and president and gets final say on football decisions.
Well, the topic wouldn't keep coming up if we didn't need a new coach every few years.
When the greatest of all time practically comes to tears talking about his old team, you bet your butt he better be in some conversation when a coaching search kicks up. Each and every time, until he definitively says no. Which he never did, once.
Would make the 0305 craziness look tame in comparison
I like DG and what he has done for the most part, but if I owned the team I'd jettison him in a second if that's what it took. Although they could probably work something out, DG remains GM and is in charge of scouting, BB is coach and president and gets final say on football decisions.
Well Mara did outsmart the Eagles by keeping McAdoo away from them! (sarcasm off)
If he was/is available I would hope that the Giants would make an effort to hire him.
BB is a legend already and I dont think him coming here could add anything to that even if he wins multiple Superbowls here. But it could hurt his legacy if he comes here and fails. Parcells never won without BB but BB won without Parcells, the same may be able to be said about BB and Brady one day.
I would love to see it but I doubt it will ever happen.
thats not true, the redskins had him in.
side note, in looking up who he visited, came across this tweet
If you draft Daniel Jones in the 1st, you need to have a good backup who can step in on a rainy day. I mean literally, if it rains, you cannot start Daniel Jones. Here are 10 throws on a wet day in Miami: pic.twitter.com/2dZra4Cz8O
— J Moyer (@JMoyerFB) April 6, 2019
Link - ( New Window )
2. I think he has been grooming his son so this will be a big factor imo. Would he rather his son to continue on New England or with the Giants?
3. If he gave up coaching maybe he just runs the New England front office, McDaniels takes over and his son is the DC? Or maybe coach the Giants and pass it along to Mcdaniels and his son and run the front office?
No they want Gettleman running personnel...
Of course they would give him total control. If Bill has any interest you offer him whatever it takes.
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and the Patriots were the only two teams that had Daniel Jones in for a visit.... coincidence? or was Bill checking out the QB at his new job?
thats not true, the redskins had him in.
side note, in looking up who he visited, came across this tweet
If you draft Daniel Jones in the 1st, you need to have a good backup who can step in on a rainy day. I mean literally, if it rains, you cannot start Daniel Jones. Here are 10 throws on a wet day in Miami: pic.twitter.com/2dZra4Cz8O
— J Moyer (@JMoyerFB) April 6, 2019 Link - ( New Window )
The media is such trash. Literally playing in a monsoon
If they lose maybe there is an opportunity to
get him to come here I have no idea about his contract
and Brady is showing some wear so who knows but
if he were to go anywhere I think the Giants would
be his top choice .
Again, Parcells WAS interested in possibly returning.
Speculation is that he is on a one year deal.
Jones is probably a scum bag, but Mara is a fucking clown. I’d rather have the scumbag running this team.
Jones is probably a scum bag, but Mara is a fucking clown. I’d rather have the scumbag running this team.
Djm. Are you ok? Very unlike for you to be kidding as I do most of the time.
The real question is whether or not ownership would ever allow him to be the de facto GM.
There are already a lot of reasons to be concerned about the Giants ownership, but if we learned they somehow don't trust BB to handle the GM duties, that would immediately vault to the top.
Hey it’s a pipe dream, but I’m still hoping!
Jones is probably a scum bag, but Mara is a fucking clown. I’d rather have the scumbag running this team.
Really? Jesus. Only on BBI.
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is never going to come here to coach, so you guys can file that with the Cowher and Parcells fantasy. Get used to it.
Again, Parcells WAS interested in possibly returning.
But would the Maras do it? I doubt it. Maybe Tisch would. It would return this franchise to instant respectability and cement Belichick's legacy even more.