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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/4/2019 7:59 am
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I expect this will be the scene tonight  
micky : 11/4/2019 3:30 pm : link
As the Stadium is mostly cowboy fans and celebrating this all night...

don't expect a win  
bc4life : 11/4/2019 3:38 pm : link
expect them to compete and play better than their first meeting (would be hard to play worse)
Giants  
stretch234 : 11/4/2019 3:49 pm : link
Can the Giants stop Dallas on 3rd down. They really have not stopped anyone thus far on 3rd down. is tonight going to be different - doubtful.

See them doing a good job against the run, but Dak having all day to throw, like he usually has against this team.

Dallas will score 5 times and they will all be TD's - the Giants are not scoring 5 TD's

Biggest thing I want to see is Jones against a good defense and good defensive coaches

we've won 10 games in 3 years  
Jints in Carolina : 11/4/2019 3:56 pm : link
I don't think we're making it 11 tonight.
Fuck Dallas...  
GiantFanInTX : 11/4/2019 3:59 pm : link
There is no team in all of sports that I despise more than the Dallas Cowboys and their fans. I'd rather see Philly win than Dallas. That's how much I hate them...
I want  
Photoguy : 11/4/2019 4:02 pm : link
a win, just to shut some of you guys up for a change.
RE: Giants  
Reale01 : 11/4/2019 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14660844 stretch234 said:
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Can the Giants stop Dallas on 3rd down. They really have not stopped anyone thus far on 3rd down. is tonight going to be different - doubtful.

See them doing a good job against the run, but Dak having all day to throw, like he usually has against this team.

Dallas will score 5 times and they will all be TD's - the Giants are not scoring 5 TD's


Biggest thing I want to see is Jones against a good defense and good defensive coaches



Distilling it to basics

Defense

Get off the field on third down
Prevent a series of long drives

Offense

Convert third downs
Score TDs in Red Zone
No turnovers



RE: I want  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/4/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14660866 Photoguy said:
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a win, just to shut some of you guys up for a change.


Youd think after a while you might start thinking the people who you want to shut up might have a point.

RE: Bar is very LOW  
gmenatlarge : 11/4/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14660617 Thegratefulhead said:
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I just want Dallas make it look difficult to convert 3rd and 17 against us. A perfect pass or something, not the guy is so open you could pass it to him underhanded and lobbed and still complete the pass.

On offense I would like Barkley to touch the ball at least 30 times. Don't care how, but that guy should have the ball. No turnovers...none. Limit penalties PLEASE.


You need to tell the moron PS that it’s OK to run the ball two times in a row! I don’t think I have ever seen someone call plays with LESS of a feel for the game. When they do run a successful play it’s like they don’t know what the fuck to do next, mind-boggling!
Eventually the worm will turn  
EJJ : 11/4/2019 5:13 pm : link
Why not tonight? Remember Dallas lost 3 in a row. Remember the mighty Jets beat the almighty Boys a few weeks ago ,in this very stadium.
Tonight might just be the night! Danny dropping dimes!
Saquon taking the rock to the house!
The Giant D Yes the Giants D shutting down the Cowboy run game with our new improved D line.
You gotta believe!!
Seems kind of quite around here for a game that can define our season  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/4/2019 5:15 pm : link
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RE: Fuck Dallas...  
NYG07 : 11/4/2019 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14660862 GiantFanInTX said:
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There is no team in all of sports that I despise more than the Dallas Cowboys and their fans. I'd rather see Philly win than Dallas. That's how much I hate them...


+1. If we only win one more game the rest of the year I want it to be this one. I am so sick of losing to these assholes. I want to see Shurmur take some chances tonight. Just win.
RE: RE: Fuck Dallas...  
bceagle05 : 11/4/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14660975 NYG07 said:
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+1. If we only win one more game the rest of the year I want it to be this one. I am so sick of losing to these assholes. I want to see Shurmur take some chances tonight. Just win.

Same here. They embarrassed us in Week 1 - play with an edge tonight. If we come out and meekly lose by 17+ points I'll be furious, and I'm mostly numb to the ineptitude by now. Shurmur needs to show a fucking pulse or pack his bags.
RE: Seems kind of quite around here for a game that can define our season  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/4/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14660955 Zeke's Alibi said:
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How would this game define their season? They're 2-6.
RE: I expect this will be the scene tonight  
Greg from LI : 11/4/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14660819 micky said:
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As the Stadium is mostly cowboy fans and celebrating this all night...



Ah yes, the stupidest celebration in NFL history
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/4/2019 5:57 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Giants will have six healthy scratches (to join Sterling Shepard who is inactive with a concussion). QB Alex Tanney, OL Eric Smith, OL Chad Slade, DL RJ McIntosh, LB Chris Peace and LB Devante Downs in the inactive warmup group.
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GiantEgo : 11/4/2019 6:08 pm : link
Assuming the Giants lose tonight it would setup a death match between Shurmur and Gase the loser facing unemployment. Mara really hates losing to the Jets and Gase appears to be on thin ice.
RE: 'Haley has a place on this team. He's most likely our surest tackler'  
WillVAB : 11/4/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14660699 Torrag said:
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Advanced stats show him yielding an 80.6% completion rate for 11.7 Y/A. He's God awful. His primary job is as a DB. To cover receivers. He simply can't do it. He trails receivers by two yards or more consistently. He has 0 passes defended in over 30 targets. He's our worst defender in 3rd down situations.


I swear when people post stuff like this I want to break things. Yes, he can tackle but if he can't cover who gives a shit. That's his primary responsibility and he can't do it!


This. He has a fucking bulls eye on his back every week.

Slot receivers torch the Giants every single week. The one week they didn’t (redskins) Keenum overthrew the slot receiver twice for two long TDs.
RE: RE: 'Haley has a place on this team. He's most likely our surest tackler'  
Giantz_comeback : 11/4/2019 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14660808 BillKo said:
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Advanced stats show him yielding an 80.6% completion rate for 11.7 Y/A. He's God awful. His primary job is as a DB. To cover receivers. He simply can't do it. He trails receivers by two yards or more consistently. He has 0 passes defended in over 30 targets. He's our worst defender in 3rd down situations.


I swear when people post stuff like this I want to break things. Yes, he can tackle but if he can't cover who gives a shit. That's his primary responsibility and he can't do it!



Although he is playing the toughest position (slot) with pretty much zero safety help (as the other corners are too).


It's not like their is tight coverage and the QB is just dropping dimes

He is getting absolutely torched. And consistently.
RE: RE: Seems kind of quite around here for a game that can define our season  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/4/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14660992 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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How would this game define their season? They're 2-6.


Because if they win tonight, they have the Jets and Bears. You never know, the NFL is a weird fucking place, and we have Eagles twice and that offense looks like doodoo without him.
Without Desean.  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/4/2019 6:30 pm : link
The Bears also suck now without that LB, they can't stop the run.
RE: RE: 'Haley has a place on this team. He's most likely our surest tackler'  
Giantz_comeback : 11/4/2019 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14661025 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14660699 Torrag said:


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Advanced stats show him yielding an 80.6% completion rate for 11.7 Y/A. He's God awful. His primary job is as a DB. To cover receivers. He simply can't do it. He trails receivers by two yards or more consistently. He has 0 passes defended in over 30 targets. He's our worst defender in 3rd down situations.


I swear when people post stuff like this I want to break things. Yes, he can tackle but if he can't cover who gives a shit. That's his primary responsibility and he can't do it!



This. He has a fucking bulls eye on his back every week.

Slot receivers torch the Giants every single week. The one week they didn’t (redskins) Keenum overthrew the slot receiver twice for two long TDs.


Yup. Its insanely bad.
Also , for a more likely take, this game is pretty much a mini  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/4/2019 6:31 pm : link
Superbowl for us. DJ's first Monday night game, first Cowboy game, and first primetime game not in ridiculous weather.
Our safeties should play well up towards LOS  
Jimmy Googs : 11/4/2019 6:37 pm : link
it’s not like having them deep does anything good anyway...
Michael Gallup is probably going to torch this defense.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/4/2019 6:45 pm : link
and oh, 7 sacks allowed by Solder this year. I'm sure there wont be more of that tonight.
Excited  
mpinmaine : 11/4/2019 6:53 pm : link
which is nice to always feel that way as I have for years,
Go Giants!
Can't recall last time I was so un-excited about watching...  
M.S. : 11/4/2019 6:53 pm : link

...a Giants football game.

And I'm talking about well over half a century of watching (and being at) their games.

This is a bad football team overseen by an even worse coach.

As I've said in a previous thread  
Festina Lente : 11/4/2019 6:57 pm : link
I Have never felt more certain of a defeat against the Cowboys. I hope I am wrong of course, but I am anticipating an absolute whooping and I think it could get embarrassing.

Two hopes for this game: 1) I hope everyone comes out healthy and 2) that DJ doesn't look awful
RE: Seems kind of quite around here for a game that can define our season  
RDJR : 11/4/2019 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14660955 Zeke's Alibi said:
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I suspect our season has already been defined.
Giants win 34-30  
Biteymax22 : 11/4/2019 6:59 pm : link
Calling it right now
Been saying for 3 days that Im not watching this.  
j_rud : 11/4/2019 7:02 pm : link
I gotta get up at 4am. Theyre playing like ass. Never in the playoff hunt, meaningful football over by Halloween again, no faith in the coaching staff, questioning direction of the franchise.

And thats all valid. But who am I kidding? Im gonna watch, and its probably not gonna do anything but raise my blood pressure, but what can we do? I dont know about anyone else but I never consciously "picked" this team. Ive loved them for as long as i can remember. At this point its not really a choice. And when they do finally get it turned around itll have been worth it.

Oh, and fuck the Cowboys. And fuck Jerry Jones. Fuck them right in their stupid assholes.
RE: 'Haley has a place on this team. He's most likely our surest tackler'  
gmenatlarge : 11/4/2019 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14660699 Torrag said:
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Advanced stats show him yielding an 80.6% completion rate for 11.7 Y/A. He's God awful. His primary job is as a DB. To cover receivers. He simply can't do it. He trails receivers by two yards or more consistently. He has 0 passes defended in over 30 targets. He's our worst defender in 3rd down situations.


I swear when people post stuff like this I want to break things. Yes, he can tackle but if he can't cover who gives a shit. That's his primary responsibility and he can't do it!

So he’s really great at tackling after a 11.7 yd gain
RE: I'd like to see Barkley break a long one tonight....  
Bluesbreaker : 11/4/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14660018 Britt in VA said:
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100 yards rushing, 100 yards receiving would be nice.

Go Giants!

If that happens we might see an upset but historically
we suck in primetime games .
It would be nice to knock those SOB's off for once
Why I'd like to see some high draft resources used on an OT next  
BSIMatt : 11/4/2019 7:12 pm : link
year...

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@DDuggan21
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A comparison of tonight's starting tackles (per @pff):
-Tyron Smith and La'el Collins have combined to allow 2 sacks, 2 QB hits, 11 hurries and 15 pressures
-Nate Solder and Mike Remmers have combined to allow 8 sacks (7 by Solder), 3 QB hits, 45 hurries and 58 pressures
RE: Been saying for 3 days that Im not watching this.  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14661094 j_rud said:
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I gotta get up at 4am. Theyre playing like ass. Never in the playoff hunt, meaningful football over by Halloween again, no faith in the coaching staff, questioning direction of the franchise.

And thats all valid. But who am I kidding? Im gonna watch, and its probably not gonna do anything but raise my blood pressure, but what can we do? I dont know about anyone else but I never consciously "picked" this team. Ive loved them for as long as i can remember. At this point its not really a choice. And when they do finally get it turned around itll have been worth it.

Oh, and fuck the Cowboys. And fuck Jerry Jones. Fuck them right in their stupid assholes.

Daniel Jones is reason enough to keep watching. Even though they suck it's still nice to see him playing well.

I know we've seen sophomore slumps from Mayfield, Darnold, and Rosen but I don't expect that to happen to Jones. He's too smart and works too hard for him to not take a step forward next season.
RE: I expect this will be the scene tonight  
Bluesbreaker : 11/4/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14660819 micky said:
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As the Stadium is mostly cowboy fans and celebrating this all night...


Grrr I loathe that SOB
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/4/2019 7:13 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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A lot of cheers for some of the Cowboys as they run out of the tunnel for the special teams portion of warmups.
Had a terrible day . now we expect the worst ...  
Bluesbreaker : 11/4/2019 7:27 pm : link
Giants seem to be running in place going nowhere fast
Tonight we win !
No  
AcidTest : 11/4/2019 7:29 pm : link
changes to the OL apparently. My guess is that the Cowboys simply do what everyone else does, namely control our OL with four or five DL, dropping six or seven into coverage. That will make it very difficult to move the ball.
Love  
AcidTest : 11/4/2019 7:31 pm : link
the color rush uniforms.
RE: RE: 'Haley has a place on this team. He's most likely our surest tackler'  
gmenatlarge : 11/4/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14661098 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 14660699 Torrag said:


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Advanced stats show him yielding an 80.6% completion rate for 11.7 Y/A. He's God awful. His primary job is as a DB. To cover receivers. He simply can't do it. He trails receivers by two yards or more consistently. He has 0 passes defended in over 30 targets. He's our worst defender in 3rd down situations.


I swear when people post stuff like this I want to break things. Yes, he can tackle but if he can't cover who gives a shit. That's his primary responsibility and he can't do it!


So he’s really great at tackling after a 11.7 yd gain


So what is worse when it comes to playing Haley- that there is no one on the roster to replace him or that the coaches CAN’T get anyone else ready to replace him?
If we lose, do rhe Jets get bragging rights?  
latichever : 11/4/2019 7:38 pm : link
At least until next week?
RE: No  
Jay on the Island : 11/4/2019 7:39 pm : link
In comment 14661136 AcidTest said:
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changes to the OL apparently. My guess is that the Cowboys simply do what everyone else does, namely control our OL with four or five DL, dropping six or seven into coverage. That will make it very difficult to move the ball.

I have to agree with Torraq, it's time to insert Pulley at C. He's not a good starting center but at least he's good at making the proper calls.
Sucks that once again Giants are done by November...BUT  
Maryland Giant : 11/4/2019 7:40 pm : link
Kinda cool that they do have a decent core of young players and some salary cap relief on the horizon.

Don’t think this is the 1991 Cowboys necessaibut at least there is hope. Puzzled by the trade with the Jets—-seems counter to what a team in the Giants position would do. Hopefully it pans out and we nail down another good draft and some decent free agents.

Go Giants.

Holy shit  
yankeeslover : 11/4/2019 7:42 pm : link
Can their be anymore cowboy homerism on this pregame?
RE: Holy shit  
gmenatlarge : 11/4/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14661162 yankeeslover said:
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Can their be anymore cowboy homerism on this pregame?


What is there to talk about with the giants? Right now just DJ and that’s about it.
RE: RE: No  
Greg from LI : 11/4/2019 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14661157 Jay on the Island said:
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I have to agree with Torraq, it's time to insert Pulley at C. He's not a good starting center but at least he's good at making the proper calls.


The performance of the OL with Pulley last year was better than the performance of the OL with Halapio. That much is obvious.
Ugh I forgot Michael Bennett is on Dallas now  
nyjuggernaut2 : 11/4/2019 7:56 pm : link
even more of a reason to hate the Cowgirls.
We're going to win  
allstarjim : 11/4/2019 8:03 pm : link
Going to enjoy this one.
RE: We're going to win  
Jints in Carolina : 11/5/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14661194 allstarjim said:
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Going to enjoy this one.


ummm yeah...about that
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