Nagy has McAdoo written all over him. Attitude, ineptitude on offense which was his thing, etc. With that said, I think Shurmur is probably the best football mind of the four, which as we have seen is not worth much.
But just such a stark contrast when playing against them, they were a disciplined game planned mistake free team compared to the Giants. What kind of ineptitude allows for 8 sacks against that skrub team??
he is a good coach and moderately successful with a lousy QB. Neither Gase or Shurmur have proven they can win and Kitchens is in way over his head. Big trouble there as he has so many divas.
still backing Shurmur in this thread. It's great that you guys believe in one of the worst nfl coaches in history.
It is not backing Shurmur, if you asked me to choose the best hamburger between a McDonald's, White Castle, and Checkers burger, I might say McDonald's but that still is not a good burger.
while taking things in context with him....he has barely had an NFL caliber lineup to coach in his career. His game managing can improve just like any other player/coach can hone their skills, he just needs to get some wins. The fact that the only comment out of the Players Only Meeting was that they love playing for him, and the rest they'll keep private speaks volumes to how he is viewed in the locker room. I'm going to give him until at least midseason next year before busting out the pitchforks, but at the very least would like to see some improvement by seasons end this year
we have none. the other teams actually have some pretty decent talent and are still terrible. There is no way the browns should be that bad.
I'll say Shurmur out of the group. The disappointment in Shurmur is the lack of creativity on O. I think he is doing well in teaching Jones and the players are playing hard.
Gase is a disaster, look at that team completely falling apart.
More than anything else, talented aggressive players and a head coach that can motivate and inspire them. Schumer offers all the inspiration of a used vacuum cleaner salesman.......where sucking is his life’s mission....head coaching is all about winning, he has an established and growing record of losing.
12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy at least kept the game competitive. Mcadoo got BTFO by a mediocre GB team where only Eli decided to show up. Worse Giants playoff game by far (SF Trey Jenkins, 2008 philly, 85 Bears, Baltimore SB included).
He's not Lombardi, but the other 3 guys include a coach who shouldn't have gotten a job in the first place, a career loser, and Adam Gase, who got a second job for some reason unknown to anyone.
My biggest issue with Nagy isn't even some of his gameday decisions. It was the trade of Jordan Howard.
and with good reason. However, not much out there when we were looking for a new coach.
Frank Reich was hired a few weeks after Shurmur.
Good coaches are out there if one is willing to open their eyes, expand their parameters, and be flexible to all options.
Just using Reich as a case. Is he "sexy" and/or "exciting?" Would that have gotten fans nice and riled up? Highly unlikely.
He certainly doesn't possess those traits. But he took a Colts job that others tried to avoid because they didn't know if Luck would even play. Two years later, they have no Luck (retirement), but still a solid squad who may make the playoffs (bad L yesterday) again.
12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy at least kept the game competitive. Mcadoo got BTFO by a mediocre GB team where only Eli decided to show up. Worse Giants playoff game by far (SF Trey Jenkins, 2008 philly, 85 Be ars, Baltimore SB included).
the Ravens Super Bowl game and the 93 divisional game in sanfeancisco where we were crushed by 40 points were much worse in terms of beatings.
The others all suck including Shurmur, the giants will not return to winning until PS goes. Look at all the div leaders in the NFL, they are pretty much ALL well-coached with the possible exception of Dallas but they have superior talent, Dak? As for DG I think he should be the draft guy only, his FA, trades and cap mgmt suck!
12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy at least kept the game competitive. Mcadoo got BTFO by a mediocre GB team where only Eli decided to show up. Worse Giants playoff game by far (SF Trey Jenkins, 2008 philly, 85 Be ars, Baltimore SB included).
the Ravens Super Bowl game and the 93 divisional game in sanfeancisco where we were crushed by 40 points were much worse in terms of beatings.
In the nfl really means lose. Lose till next year. Lose while the O line develops.......lose until more high draft picks arrive........lose until shurmur has a chance to put his system in......then lose till something happens.....team needs new leadership, or they can lose till something good happens.
12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
The W-L record doesn't necessarily reflect how good or bad a coach is.
McAdoo went 11-5 on Spag's defense. His offense was a complete disaster, and he was brought in to revitalize the offense. McAdoo is the worst coach of the Giants since Handley. I guarantee Shurmur will have a better legacy than that guy.
And an offense with formations and tricks.
NFL caught up with it.
His handling of the winning FG last week was HORRID.
Tribisky sucks and they aren't ever going to win squat with him.
That's awesome. Did I forget anyone?
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history.
The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy would be my choice.
It is not backing Shurmur, if you asked me to choose the best hamburger between a McDonald's, White Castle, and Checkers burger, I might say McDonald's but that still is not a good burger.
I'll say Shurmur out of the group. The disappointment in Shurmur is the lack of creativity on O. I think he is doing well in teaching Jones and the players are playing hard.
Gase is a disaster, look at that team completely falling apart.
Well remember, Parcells wasn't Parcells in 1983.
His legend/legacy grew from there...........
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12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy at least kept the game competitive. Mcadoo got BTFO by a mediocre GB team where only Eli decided to show up. Worse Giants playoff game by far (SF Trey Jenkins, 2008 philly, 85 Bears, Baltimore SB included).
My biggest issue with Nagy isn't even some of his gameday decisions. It was the trade of Jordan Howard.
Frank Reich was hired a few weeks after Shurmur.
Good coaches are out there if one is willing to open their eyes, expand their parameters, and be flexible to all options.
Just using Reich as a case. Is he "sexy" and/or "exciting?" Would that have gotten fans nice and riled up? Highly unlikely.
He certainly doesn't possess those traits. But he took a Colts job that others tried to avoid because they didn't know if Luck would even play. Two years later, they have no Luck (retirement), but still a solid squad who may make the playoffs (bad L yesterday) again.
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12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy at least kept the game competitive. Mcadoo got BTFO by a mediocre GB team where only Eli decided to show up. Worse Giants playoff game by far (SF Trey Jenkins, 2008 philly, 85 Be ars, Baltimore SB included).
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12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
Nagy at least kept the game competitive. Mcadoo got BTFO by a mediocre GB team where only Eli decided to show up. Worse Giants playoff game by far (SF Trey Jenkins, 2008 philly, 85 Be ars, Baltimore SB included).
the Ravens Super Bowl game and the 93 divisional game in sanfeancisco where we were crushed by 40 points were much worse in terms of beatings.
Don't forget Carolina 2005!
Your narrative doesn’t leave for much room for consideration of some of the circumstances contributing to that record.
Pretty black and white for you. Hard to defend 17-40, but he s also been coaching some really horrid teams
The tea showed improvement the second half if last season, let s see what happens this year.
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12 games with a horrible QB. His lifetime record is 15-10.
Shurmur has won 17 games and lost 40 and he got a free win to get to 17 as a one game coach when Andy Reid was fired.
His winning percentage is already in the 200's! Right now he'd be tied for #7 on this list. By tomorrow he'll probably be #6.
He's one of the worst HCs in NFL history. The Worst Head Coaches in NFL History - ( New Window )
McAdoo went 11-5 with an offensive line that was pretty darn bad. Lost in the same round of the playoffs as Nagy did last year.
The W-L record doesn't necessarily reflect how good or bad a coach is.
McAdoo went 11-5 on Spag's defense. His offense was a complete disaster, and he was brought in to revitalize the offense. McAdoo is the worst coach of the Giants since Handley. I guarantee Shurmur will have a better legacy than that guy.