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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/4/2019 11:06 pm
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Cheer up guys....  
bceagle05 : 11/4/2019 11:30 pm : link
Next week's loss will be worse.
RE: Should not blame Jones  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/4/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14663511 bluesince56 said:
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On that fumble.
yes
Can only hope this is a loss that motivates Mara to take action  
Oscar : 11/4/2019 11:30 pm : link
Can live with all of this if it leads to new leadership. Tired of this shit.
Good News  
Rflairr : 11/4/2019 11:30 pm : link
is after they get beat by the Jets, ownership will likely fire this clown coach
RE: RE: A loser organization  
bluesince56 : 11/4/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14663512 DavidinBMNY said:
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In comment 14663205 Ben in Tampa said:


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For close to a decade

When you reach for a head coach not once but twice this is what you get.

So true.

The organization is worse then last year. What a disappointment
Not that it matters  
Defense56 : 11/4/2019 11:31 pm : link
But why wasn't that fumble reviewed.
Things Pat Shurmur did and did NOT learn from Andy Reid  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/4/2019 11:31 pm : link
Learned:

- Horrible use of challenges
- Aversion to using the running back
- Porous clock management/use of timeouts


Did NOT Learn:

- Red zone play design
- Use of a mobile QB
- Creative play design anywhere on the field
i am worried  
AndyMilligan : 11/4/2019 11:31 pm : link
Jones isn't the guy.

Its  
mpinmaine : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
just sad,,,losing to dallas in a game they could of been up by 9 at half is just deflating
Someone should call Ernie Accorsi pronto  
jcn56 : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
to get his opinion on this fiasco.

I'm sure Mara could use a good Bert Jones story right about now.
RE: i am worried  
GiantEgo : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14663538 AndyMilligan said:
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Jones isn't the guy.


AWW poor baby!
When you reach for a HC  
bluesince56 : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
not once but twice this is what you get.
RE: RE: Shurmur is trash  
Giantfan21 : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14663517 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14663473 Giantfan21 said:


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but gettleman is no better. HE should not get a pass for not improving the team in 2 years since hes been here .

Giving him a chance to spend all that money in Free agency is a disaster waiting to happen



The team was worse than 5-11 last year and this team is worse than that. Fuck Gettleman too. He’s pure ass.


They all need to go but ultimately it doesnt matter because john mara is daniel snyder 2.0 and this team is DEAD as long as hes the owner
RE: Not that it matters  
BlackLight : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14663533 Defense56 said:
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But why wasn't that fumble reviewed.


No idea. It was close, but it looks to me like his arm had started forward with the ball still in possession.
RE: RE: RE: A loser organization  
Defense56 : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14663532 bluesince56 said:
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In comment 14663512 DavidinBMNY said:


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Who becomes the interim coach? Butcher?:)
In comment 14663205 Ben in Tampa said:


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For close to a decade

When you reach for a head coach not once but twice this is what you get.

So true.

The organization is worse then last year. What a disappointment

RE: Not that it matters  
gmenatlarge : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14663533 Defense56 said:
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But why wasn't that fumble reviewed.


Nobody cared!
I have almost zero doubt Jones is the guy  
Oscar : 11/4/2019 11:32 pm : link
I am worried he’s got the wrong coach and pile of shit around him. Everyone needs a good infrastructure. Critical offseason, real fork in the road moment for Mara. Doubt he’s up to it.
RE: Should not blame Jones  
PatersonPlank : 11/4/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14663511 bluesince56 said:
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On that fumble.


After every fumble we are told by some not to blame him. Its like the Star Wars scene, "These are not the droid you are looking for". He needs to stop it.
I am truly done with Shurmurs offense  
Rjanyg : 11/4/2019 11:33 pm : link
Shot gun 95% of the time. We need to limit the amount of pass blocking this line does.
I’m sure  
cokeduplt : 11/4/2019 11:33 pm : link
Glad we traded for Leonard Williams!!!’
A rookie QB, the worst defense in the NFL  
loafin : 11/4/2019 11:33 pm : link
And a beleaguered coach

Yet a stupid fan (me) still watches this shit show....
Jets and fins  
Scooter185 : 11/4/2019 11:33 pm : link
Will probably beat this team too.
RE: i am worried  
bluesince56 : 11/4/2019 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14663538 AndyMilligan said:
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Jones isn't the guy.


Have you seen his OL? He’s a rookie learning on the job. However he needs better play calling and protection
RE: At least  
M.S. : 11/4/2019 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14663334 Defense56 said:
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No team from the NFC least is going far this year. They all suck.

If they all suck, where does that leave the laughing stock, pathetic Giants?
I feel like Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation  
Greg from LI : 11/4/2019 11:35 pm : link
"Worse? How could things get any worse? Take a look around you, Ellen - we're at the threshold of hell here!"
RE: I’m sure  
GiantEgo : 11/4/2019 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14663578 cokeduplt said:
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Glad we traded for Leonard Williams!!!’


Me too he played well in his first game
RE: I am truly done with Shurmurs offense  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/4/2019 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14663577 Rjanyg said:
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Shot gun 95% of the time. We need to limit the amount of pass blocking this line does.


Thank goodness they drafted a RB with the second overall pick just to run shotgun damn near every fucking play. So much for play action passing.
I blame the cat  
Chocco : 11/4/2019 11:35 pm : link
How the fuck does a cat get on the field anyway
...  
BleedBlue : 11/4/2019 11:35 pm : link
need a new coaching staff for sure
Be awesome  
KDubbs : 11/4/2019 11:36 pm : link
If jets and giants didnt show up on sunday. Both sets of owners need a fucking reality check. Why should anyone care on sunday in a game that usually involves some nice trash talk and bragging rights?
RE: Shurmur is trash  
trueblueinpw : 11/4/2019 11:36 pm : link
In comment 14663473 Giantfan21 said:
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but gettleman is no better. HE should not get a pass for not improving the team in 2 years since hes been here .

Giving him a chance to spend all that money in Free agency is a disaster waiting to happen


Agree💯 Not enough is being made of the obvious mistakes by Gettleman. Like, hiring Pat Schurmur. There’s plenty of other dumb moves including the absolutely inexplicable trade for Williams. Just a terrible GM.
I thought we would get a good play caller at least  
Giantimistic : 11/4/2019 11:36 pm : link
I didn’t know how Shurmur would be as a Head Coach but I was at least certain that he would be a great play caller. I thought he knew how to get the ball in to talented hands of his best players.

I was so very wrong about that.
You know who really showed up was our new DT jermaine Williams  
mikeinbloomfield : 11/4/2019 11:37 pm : link
I heard his name one, possibly two times. I’m sure Gettleman’s working the phones trying to trade a number 1 for a backup tight end.
Let's get real.  
since1925 : 11/4/2019 11:37 pm : link
We waved the white flag on the season when we started Jones. That makes it hard to evaluate what we really have. Teams are playing eight in the box. So our run blocking looks bad. He holds the ball too long, that means sacks. He fumbles like crazy. That put the defense in bad spots. He isn't the only problem but he makes it hard to see what the problems really are.

So please relax. This is going to last a while. Let's just hope he is learning and current mess (much of his making) will have a big payout.
5 Point Game  
Bernie : 11/4/2019 11:37 pm : link
with 8 minutes to go. If you cannot see that the non PI call and then the phantom PI call did not change this game, then you are an idiot.
RE: Be awesome  
KDubbs : 11/4/2019 11:37 pm : link
In comment 14663605 KDubbs said:
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If jets and giants didnt show up on sunday. Both sets of owners need a fucking reality check. Why should anyone care on sunday in a game that usually involves some nice trash talk and bragging rights?


Jets and giants fans. The players might as well not show up either and save us all the embarrassment
RE: I blame the cat  
GiantEgo : 11/4/2019 11:37 pm : link
In comment 14663599 Chocco said:
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How the fuck does a cat get on the field anyway


That stupid cat incident did blunt momentum at the time but Dallas is just way better.
This  
AcidTest : 11/4/2019 11:38 pm : link
team has so many problems that never seem to be corrected, even partially. Bad OL, receivers who can't separate, no pass rush, LBs and safeties that are slow and take bad angles, and blown coverages.

But the biggest problem is the OL. We can't block anyone. Shurmur was right. "If you can't block them, nothing works."
competed against a better team  
bc4life : 11/4/2019 11:38 pm : link
and made some costly mistakes.

first take, was the run game by Dallas basically due to our weak LB corps?

no pass rush - Dak is a decent QB. BUt if you don't sack, hit, or knock a QB down - you're probably not going to win
Can we fire the owners  
oldutican : 11/4/2019 11:39 pm : link
Cause this shit show is all on them.
RE: I blame the cat  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/4/2019 11:39 pm : link
In comment 14663599 Chocco said:
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How the fuck does a cat get on the field anyway


Apparently he ran right around Nate Solder.
any one else starting to worry about baker?  
viggie : 11/4/2019 11:39 pm : link
Not the coverage but being in zone when everyone else was in man at this point of the season ?
re: black cat  
bc4life : 11/4/2019 11:39 pm : link
bad omen - cats were a theme on Family Guy last night
RE: .  
cokeduplt : 11/4/2019 11:39 pm : link
In comment 14663279 Danny Kanell said:
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I really can’t take it anymore. Not sure what it is about this one in particular but this one broke me.

How do we not even win one of these games by accident?

Jones will keep me engaged but I’m officially checked out. Lose out. Who cares anymore?


I don’t even know if I can watch anymore. I’m tired of feeling sick every week.
RE: any one else starting to worry about baker?  
mikeinbloomfield : 11/4/2019 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14663659 viggie said:
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Not the coverage but being in zone when everyone else was in man at this point of the season ?


Starting to worry?
RE: RE: I blame the cat  
GiantEgo : 11/4/2019 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14663658 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 14663599 Chocco said:


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How the fuck does a cat get on the field anyway



Apparently he ran right around Nate Solder.


Okay this is very funny
RE: Let's get real.  
Greg from LI : 11/4/2019 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14663620 since1925 said:
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We waved the white flag on the season when we started Jones. That makes it hard to evaluate what we really have. Teams are playing eight in the box. So our run blocking looks bad. He holds the ball too long, that means sacks. He fumbles like crazy. That put the defense in bad spots. He isn't the only problem but he makes it hard to see what the problems really are.

So please relax. This is going to last a while. Let's just hope he is learning and current mess (much of his making) will have a big payout.


Your takeaway is that Jones is the big problem? Seriously?
The roster is just as awful as the coaching staff  
jcn56 : 11/4/2019 11:41 pm : link
Gettleman decided to blow it up and start from scratch, something that a competent FO shouldn't have to do with the parity forced attrition/turnover of the NFL, and the players he's brought in via FA and the draft are every bit as bad if not worse than what he found.

The Cowboys opened up the game trying to give it away, and the Giants refused to take it.
RE: I know they are both young  
cokeduplt : 11/4/2019 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14663338 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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But Ballantine looks like a better prospect than Baker. Bigger, stronger, faster. Hope he gets more pt.


You forgot not brain dead!! Ah the fuck did they trade up for this guy
Jets and Dolphins are licking their chops  
M.S. : 11/4/2019 11:41 pm : link
Giants lack

Leadership
Coaching
Pass Rush
Offensive Line
Smarts

Did I leave out anything?

We are definitely drafting Top 5 and easily could be Top 3. Even the very first pick is in reach with a laughing stock franchise like this.
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