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So, does anyone trust Gettleman with all the $ we have in FA

SoZKillA : 11/5/2019 12:11 am
In 2 years he made Solder the highest paid LT, traded for Ogletree, signed Stewart and said he had years left, brought Eli back, signed Bethea, signed Curtis Riley, paid Odell then traded him leaving a huge dead cap. Theres no reason to trust him.

To top it off, the upcoming FA Class isnít all that great.
Nope  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/5/2019 12:15 am : link
Not me.
I want Jonathan Stewart locked in  
adamg : 11/5/2019 12:17 am : link
5 years 50 mill guaranteed please.

He should stay for his mid round draft picks, he did nice last two sea  
Danny Dimes : 11/5/2019 12:17 am : link
O wait...
You're probably figuring Patrick Omameh wasn't  
jcn56 : 11/5/2019 12:19 am : link
worth mentioning, but hey - $8Mhere, $8M there - pretty soon it adds up, even if they don't make it the full year.
I forgot  
SoZKillA : 11/5/2019 12:21 am : link
All about that bum.

Also, Outside of the Barkley pick because he was kind of a no brainer for them and outside of Jones, what has he done and who has he got to make us feel good about the future??? Hernandez?
Can't wait till he extends L Williams for $15mm per year  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/5/2019 12:22 am : link
...because he was a first rounder once.
How the hell can anyone trust Mr. Magoo  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/5/2019 12:22 am : link
when we already know that he wants to sign LEONARD WILLIAMS (along with giving up draft picks, including a 3rd rounder) with some of that money? Dude is fucking lost.
Been saying it for weeks  
Go Terps : 11/5/2019 12:24 am : link
Gettleman with a checkbook is the next iceberg for this organization.
Hey, donít forget about Kareem Martin  
cosmicj : 11/5/2019 12:25 am : link
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RE: How the hell can anyone trust Mr. Magoo  
jcn56 : 11/5/2019 12:27 am : link
In comment 14663932 Dave in Hoboken said:
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when we already know that he wants to sign LEONARD WILLIAMS (along with giving up draft picks, including a 3rd rounder) with some of that money? Dude is fucking lost.


A 3rd and a 4th, if they re-sign him.

One knock against Reese that was supposed to improve was the later round selections. Right off the bat, this move would eliminate a 3rd and 4th round pick. Lauletta was cut after a season, that's a 4th rounder. At this point, it seems they went from being disappointed with those picks to just figuring they'll bypass drafting them in the first place.
DG has made one serious mistake since he took over...  
Torrag : 11/5/2019 12:28 am : link
the Solder signing is a costly bust.

The rest of his moves I've agreed with(Odell) or were rather insignificant to the long term success of the team. His Drafts have been good though it's early to review them. A 4th for Ogletree was a decent gamble that hasn't paid dividends. Bethea has been a trainwreck but again it won't hurt much to move on from him. It's way too early to assess the LW trade until we know how it plays out.

If it's too early to review the drafts, how can they be good?  
jcn56 : 11/5/2019 12:29 am : link
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'If it's too early to review the drafts, how can they be good?'  
Torrag : 11/5/2019 12:32 am : link
Because the guys have played well for the most part so far. It's premature to give a final verdict though.
If gettleman has the checkbook this offseason  
Giantfan21 : 11/5/2019 12:36 am : link
its going to set the team back another 5 years with all the long overpaid contracts hes going to hand out , starting with leonard williams .

An absolute nightmare scenario
RE: RE: How the hell can anyone trust Mr. Magoo  
giantsFC : 11/5/2019 12:46 am : link
In comment 14663947 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14663932 Dave in Hoboken said:


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when we already know that he wants to sign LEONARD WILLIAMS (along with giving up draft picks, including a 3rd rounder) with some of that money? Dude is fucking lost.



A 3rd and a 4th, if they re-sign him.

One knock against Reese that was supposed to improve was the later round selections. Right off the bat, this move would eliminate a 3rd and 4th round pick. Lauletta was cut after a season, that's a 4th rounder. At this point, it seems they went from being disappointed with those picks to just figuring they'll bypass drafting them in the first place.


Lolz
no  
peteschweaty : 11/5/2019 7:41 am : link
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christian : 11/5/2019 7:46 am : link
I don't buy the defense that because Gettleman has only made one seriously financial killing move, he's been fine in pro player acquisition.

How about actually a damn move right?

What move has he actually gotten right?
RE: Can't wait till he extends L Williams for $15mm per year  
Danny Dimes : 11/5/2019 8:23 am : link
In comment 14663928 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...because he was a first rounder once.


If L William's is smart, he will take half the deal Jets offer him during FA and signs back with the Jets
RE: DG has made one serious mistake since he took over...  
gmenatlarge : 11/5/2019 8:28 am : link
In comment 14663949 Torrag said:
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the Solder signing is a costly bust.

The rest of his moves I've agreed with(Odell) or were rather insignificant to the long term success of the team. His Drafts have been good though it's early to review them. A 4th for Ogletree was a decent gamble that hasn't paid dividends. Bethea has been a trainwreck but again it won't hurt much to move on from him. It's way too early to assess the LW trade until we know how it plays out.


Signing OBJ before trading him caused huge cap hit and dead money, Ogletree big contract sucks, Omameh, Martin, stewart, pretty much ALL of his moves beside the draft have sucked!!! Oh yeah I forgot, we have the Hog Mollies, YAY!!!!!!
Bad teams donít become winners  
oldutican : 11/5/2019 8:39 am : link
through FA. Itís all about the draft and hitting on 2nd day picks. I see serviceable players taken there by DG, but not real quality.
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arcarsenal : 11/5/2019 8:40 am : link
Pressure will be on to field a winner in 2020... so, he's going to spend recklessly, and is going to wind up creating cap hell for the guy who eventually takes his place.

On and on we go... how fun.
I dont trust this coaching staff.  
ArcadeSlumlord : 11/5/2019 8:41 am : link
AT ALL. I do like gettlemans eye for talent though.
I would truncate...  
bw in dc : 11/5/2019 8:44 am : link
the OPís opening to:

ďSo, does anyone trust Gettleman?Ē
Drafts always look good at first  
fkap : 11/5/2019 8:56 am : link
because we concentrate on the potential. Until the potential is fulfilled, don't count those chickens until they hatch.

Last year's vaunted class is trending downward. This year's is mixed.

So far, I'm not convinced we're going to draft our way into a solid team any time soon.

FA has been a resounding bust. Defenders will say DG hasn't hamstrung the future with his contracts, so all the misses and meh don't really matter. It does matter, because we aren't getting anywhere toward turning the team into a competitive one.
Defenders will say they were only stopgap. Why get rid of the prior lousy players if you're just going to bring in new lousy players? You're spending resources to go nowhere. Most of the incoming has been intended to improve the team. Maybe only incrementally, but still improvement. That effort has, overall, been a huge failure.

I hope they don't go crazy in FA. Acquire FA in a rational fashion, but leave money in the bank so we can do the same the following year. Spending up to the cap only makes sense if you're getting value. If the value isn't there leave it for a future date so we can go after players you want.

Only half joking when I say it'd be better yet to leave most of it in the bank until the talent evaluators prove they can evaluate.
RE: 'If it's too early to review the drafts, how can they be good?'  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/5/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14663959 Torrag said:
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Because the guys have played well for the most part so far. It's premature to give a final verdict though.

How have Lauletta, McIntosh, Beal, Love, Ballentine, C. Slayton, or George A-A played so far?

Even the "they've played well for the most part so far" thing is pure wishful thinking because a lot of them have barely played at all.

The sooner we acknowledge that the best quality Gettleman has displayed so far is simply that he is not Reese, the sooner we can actually pay attention to whether he's doing a good job on his own merit or not.

Spoiler alert: he's not.
Yes, I trust Gettleman  
Giants in 07 : 11/5/2019 9:41 am : link
I don't trust Shurmur to coach the players that DG signs.
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