Can we finally put to rest it’s the O-Lines Fault?

In two offers some. Can't be done. There was absolutely no way for the line to be any better than this.

In comment 14664085 Sneakers O'toole said:

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Go ahead, select them?

Is Quenton Nelson not an NFL player in whatever alternate universe you're conducting this scenario?

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of playing C than Halapio.

Shit, they traded Brett Jones - who while no great shakes, was a better player than Halapio - and he was already on the fucking roster.

In comment 14664052 jcn56 said:

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In comment 14664046 Tom in NY said: Quote: In comment 14664032 Greg from LI said: Quote: . Yeah. I've seen a team that hit rock bottom the last 2 years and is now in rebuilding mode with a rookie QB. The Oline had to be completely rebuilt due to 8+ years of horrific drafting by the previous regime. The current line is a combination of good (Zeitler), potential (Hernandez), stopgap (Remmers & Halapio), and a FA paid too highly out of necessity (Solder). Losses like we've seen this year, while frustrating, are expected. To claim the organization is a disaster is just not a fact. They were, up to the point of letting Reese & Ross go, and now are building from the ground up. It takes time. Watching this board throw adult hossy fits after every loss is something I'd expect from Jets fans....now that is a long embarrassing organization. Brace yourself Bucky, they might lose to that Jets organization in a couple of weeks. They already got swindled by them for a 3rd and a 4th.

Excuse me Junior....since we're throwing around nicknames. If the Giants lose to the Jets, I would assume there would be coaching terminations at season's end. They do need to finish with at least the 5 win total they had last year, as bad as that was. Hopefully with a rookie QB playing well at season's end, and a plan to turn the corner in 2020...a key year for the franchise.

Personally I still take Barkley. Either way, we'd be in the same boat. A bad team building through the draft.

Or does that one change in history make us a 2019 contender

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Excuse me Junior....since we're throwing around nicknames. If the Giants lose to the Jets, I would assume there would be coaching terminations at season's end. They do need to finish with at least the 5 win total they had last year, as bad as that was. Hopefully with a rookie QB playing well at season's end, and a plan to turn the corner in 2020...a key year for the franchise.

You know I've said it often that last year's 5 wins were a mirage based on playing a string of backup QBs. That seems more and more on point.

That said, this team is no better. And this year the OL is worse than the one that ended the year last year.

There's no corner even in sight.

Resigned Jamon Brown
Trade Vernon for a player better than Remmers, or Halapio...

Draft McGary instead of Baker

Not trade Brett Jones.
Sign Matt Paradis
Sign Mitch Morse

Sooooooo many options that he had.
We can go on all night and day with what he could have down.

In comment 14664005 Tom in NY said:

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In comment 14663995 yatqb said: Quote: . Oh...in that case it's a lame, unfactual post. Compare the Dallas Oline to the Giants and tell me how that comparison is not the issue. Let's give DG one more year to see what he can do. Organizational issues have been addressed, but unfortunately the Reese regime's failures are still being felt.

You can't blame Reese for this. The entire OL has been replaced and it's actually worse.

Is a joke but if Eli was in there it would have been a repeat of week ones performance. At least Jones kept some drives alive with his mobility and the game was still close in the 4th

In comment 14664000 jcn56 said:

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You have a dynamic RB taken 2nd overall and a mobile QB replacing an immobile Eli, and these are the results. And that's with the guy in charge making Solder the second highest paid OLT of all time along with several other moves. This team didn't - and still does not - know how to scout OL.

The entire scouting staff and Chris Mara need to go. They don't know how to scout players period.

At this rate the Giants will have the offensive line all figured out in 10 years.

Just pick one component offensive lineman every other draft.

In comment 14664024 Sneakers O'toole said:

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Its not what people want to hear but it takes time to rebuild a core.

This is a bullshit remark. Full rebuild, maybe. But where is the progress? Oline was priority 1 when DG took over. After two highly pick rich drafts and 2 FA periods there’s been zero progress. Defense too. This team is a clone of the one we ended with Reese/McAdoo. 2 year record going to be worse. It does t take years to progress beyond incompetence.

4th away? I guess they are expecting to rebuild the OL with 7th round picks

...all the crap about taking sacks and dumping off. Then going thru a press conference to try and explain what's going on.

There's nothing there. No downfield threat, pass blocking looks horrid. Apparently being mobile doesn't help much.

I think DJ is gonna be very good, but man, he's seeing the same thing Eli saw.

In comment 14664141 Les in TO said:

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Is a joke but if Eli was in there it would have been a repeat of week ones performance. At least Jones kept some drives alive with his mobility and the game was still close in the 4th

We scored 19 points and sucked in the red zone. And turned the ball over.

What are you looking at?

In comment 14664078 Greg from LI said:

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They are worse than the line of two years ago, the Flowers and Hart line. That's after 2 offseasons of Mr. Hog Mollies working his magic.

Mr. Hogmollies. LOLZ!!

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In comment 14664021 giantsFC said: I don't think you've been paying attention to most of the comments by posters here. Everyone has been saying the whole team sucks. Idk I keep seeing it coming up tonight. It’s just one faction of this huge fail. So so much ore is wrong thst needs to be corrected. Eric is right. You've stopped reading any other complaint and just focused on the OL.

I mean hence why I posted this thread. It kept coming up as complaints by people while they seem to defend a disappointing defense, coaching, GM, TOP 10 PICK QB etc. etc.

Blame always rests at the top.

Looking at you Mr. Mara & Tisch.

I think you have lost perspective. There is rot. It reeks of losing.

It is up to you and I to fix this. We have to stop rewarding them for losing.

Stop watching.

Don't go to games.

Don't buy Giants merchandise until they start fielding a competitive team again.

The product is SHIT.

The product has been shit for a while.

I see nothing that tells me the product is not going to continue to be shit.

Until we teach them with our wallets they will keep feeding us shit.

They have just about lost me.

I didn't care last night.

I don't care today.

I'm just...

meh.