The pass interference call late in the game against Baker had more of an impact on the game that just that one play.
Shortly after the 27 yard PI penalty, Cooper scored on a blown coverage long 42 yard TD.
Immediately following the extra point, Shurmur ran down to about the 20 yard line and engaged the officials in a very heated argument. The argument continued for some time and Shurmur was incredibly animated.
Eventually all the officials went back to their positions, including the Side Judge, Greg Gautreaux (#80) who moved to his position along the Giants sideline. Gautreaux was the official that made the very questionable call of PI on Baker several plays earlier.
Shurmur then came over to Gautreaux and another heated exchange continued with Shurmur very animated. Shurmur continued and continued, even as the 2 teams lined up for the next kickoff.
The kickoff happened, and the Giants offense was back on the field. It was very obvious that their was confusion with the offense. I was happy that Shurmur gave Gautreaux hell for the call, but it simply went on for too long.
Now the Giants needed their plays called, and Shurmur was clearly not prepared. A quick 3 and out for the offense without any of the 3 plays resulting in positive yardage.
I will hold back on my opinion of Shurmur, but one thing is clear to me. A Head Coach (any Head Coach) should not be doubling up and calling the plays on offense.
Fans talk about firing coaches and more, but I think that first and foremost the constructive move that needs to be made is the GM and ownership telling Shurmur that he no longer has this dual role.
No bueno.
He is my worst fear realized when we hired him.
Cleveland was not a mirage.
But what to do about Pat Shurmur's utter lack of leadership and motivational skills? He's not cut out for Head Coaching in the NFL and there's simply no way of getting 'round that unalterable fact.
But what to do about Pat Shurmur's utter lack of leadership and motivational skills? He's not cut out for Head Coaching in the NFL and there's simply no way of getting 'round that unalterable fact.
Agree. You can't allow him to make changes. He has in no way earned the right to try to make himself a CEO coach at this point.
There should be some very good coordinator options this offseason with the likely fires. If Garrett is let go Rod Marinelli, Kris Richard, and Kellen Moore will all be free. Dan Quinn will more than likely be fired by Atlanta and could be a great choice for DC as well.
If Doug Marrone is let go John DeFilippo will likely be available. IIRC Shurmur wanted to hire him when he first came to the Giants but had to settle for Shula.
Bill Callahan would be my choice for OL coach.
If you are looking for me to direct anger toward anyone, it would certainly be toward Mara and Tisch. These are the greedy bastards that soaked their long time customers with PSL fees for a terrible stadium.
As a family that has had season tickets since 1948, my fond memories are of a stadium packed with loyal Giants fans.
Last night's game is typical of what happens at every Giants game since Mara and Tisch made the game more about money than about team loyalty.
Stop and think about my game experience-more than half the seats filled by fans of opposing teams. Listening to the the Cowboys chants last night. Listening to the Eagles chants when they are in town. Having yellow terrible towels waived in my fact throughout a Steelers game.
And think about having a front row seat, but I clearly can't see well because of the Mara, Tisch, and Johnson decision to block the view of the game with metal bars.
And John Mara telling me that he actually sat in my seats and determined that the view is perfectly fine. And of course he did it in an empty stadium for 2 minutes- not on a gameday for 3+ hours.
The day the new stadium opened, everything changed for me as a fan.
People will go to the stadium as something interesting to do a couple of times a year. They'll gamble and play fantasy but the days of a loyal Giants fan base are dying right before our eyes.
Not the gravy train. The Mara's are richer than ever and the money will keep rolling in. But actual passionate Giant fans are becoming an endangered species.
You couldn't be more right about that dump they play in and the entire gameday experience. I won't go for free anymore.
There should be some very good coordinator options this offseason with the likely fires. If Garrett is let go Rod Marinelli, Kris Richard, and Kellen Moore will all be free. Dan Quinn will more than likely be fired by Atlanta and could be a great choice for DC as well.
If Doug Marrone is let go John DeFilippo will likely be available. IIRC Shurmur wanted to hire him when he first came to the Giants but had to settle for Shula.
Bill Callahan would be my choice for OL coach.
Assistants aren't riders on a HC's contract. None of those assistants are free if they're under contract regardless of the status of the HC above them.
Yes, and Coughlin wasn't. He used to turn beet red and it wasn't even cold out.
Well done, dipshit.
Giants fans want to see their team as victims. But overall the officiating actually favored them
Giants fans want to see their team as victims. But overall the officiating actually favored them
You should have began your post with, "As Cooper was grabbing Baker's hands and jersey, Baker grabbed...".
Just for accuracy's sake, I mean.
This also shows what pressure Shurmur is under.
Good thread, Yankee.