Let's say we finish 4-12, 5-11. Right now, that's probably realistic considering we still got the Jets, Fins, & Skins. And, for argument's sake, let's say we spring an upset over the Bears to get that 5th.
So that's back to back 5-11 seasons. Sadly, the owner can't be fired so Johnny Boy is going nowhere. Gettleman...eh. He's done some good things, but his signings have been atrocious & the thought of him with tons of $ to spend this offseason gives me a great deal of pause. I think we all agree that Shurmur is a complete boob who should be given a one way ticket out of town.
But what I totally expect to happen is that Bettcher, who completely sucks, to be given the axe & other minor staff changes, but that DG & Shurmur to be given another year. Now, knowing that they're on their last leash, they make completely near sighted moves that'll come to bite us in the ass a year or two down the road.
What I guess I'm trying to say is that Go Terps was right: we gotta clean house, lest these characters even put us further in the hole trying to save their own asses.
But I don't expect that. Again, I'll be shocked if Shurmur isn't our HC next September. And I'll be shocked if we're not in the same position come Election Day 2020. I asked this ? in the game thread last night & I still don't have a good answer: How is this team any better on 11/5/19 than it was on 11/5/18? Is it even worse?
Good times all around.
They will spend $100M and try to make a run.
I hope i'm wrong.
Jets, Redskins and Dolphins? That's all I got.
"nobody is angrier than me", "nobody is more frustrated than me", "next year we need to see progress" and his personal favorite...."everyone is on notice"
He'll say this over and over in a press conference, then he'll say it in one on one print interviews, then he'll say it on radio interviews, then you won't see or hear from him again.
Jets, Dolphins, Redskins is the path to 5. Woo hoo!
Very bad news.
They will take the easy road and middle of the road.
Shurmur- put down the play callng and be a HC. Hire an OC or Shula makes the calls. I prefer none of the above but its what I think is realistic
betther- gone. Scapegoat or bad coach. Whatever . If smart, Giants bring in a DC that can take over and they want to be a HC if Shurmur doesn't win in 2020
Its the easy middle of the road don't admit your mistake approach
BBI will go through the motions again next season.
They will spend $100M and try to make a run.
Where are they finding $100M? How much dead money will they take on to claw an additional $40M in cap space?
Shula, goes and a new OC comes in (possibly to call plays) and some other assistants also gone.
McGaughey stays
Shurmur stays
Gettleman stays
Solder is cut and replaced as is Ogletree, Jenkins still on the team
HC gets fired next off season
gettleman "retires" in three years and Abrams takes over
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is this team going to win five games?
Jets, Redskins and Dolphins? That's all I got.
I guess I can take up the XFL......
I don't either. I think we'll be lucky to win two more games, and there is the real possibility we may not win any.
probably a few position coach changes
Very likely: the meddlesome Maras continue screwing up the team no matter what happens on the surface.
I stand by that.
And if he isn't?
Don't bother tuning into the 2020 Season.
I agree. I can't fathom Pat Shurmur being given a third season here. He's that bad.
There's ZERO sense bringing him back, and starting off horrid again and firing him mid-season in 2020, or worse, waiting for the 2020 season to end.
Do it now. Get a guy in here who buys into Jones/Barkley and has a vision going forward with DG.
Shurmur is way too passive. We. Need. Energy.
they have to be thinking about it at this point.
I can't underline enough that Gettleman is as much of a problem as Shurmur.
Gettleman isn't going anywhere.
I can't underline enough that Gettleman is as much of a problem as Shurmur.
I don't know.....DG isn't calling those red zone sequences......
I can't underline enough that Gettleman is as much of a problem as Shurmur.
I have to be honest, I have been somewhat of a Gettleman (for lack of a better word) supporter this year due to the last 2 drafts. A thread was started I think last night comparing the Giants roster to the Cowboys. Jesus Christ has he done a terrible overall job.
With games against the Jets, Dolphins & Skins. This team may finish 3-4 and go 5-11 & we’ll hear “arrow is pointing up” - this is my biggest fear. Before you say there are no more wins on the schedule, it happened last year.
Sadly.
Betcher is not a big enough scale goat for the last two seadons
I also think Betcher is gone this year as scapegoat excuse phase 1. But its def WAY too late to change the entire defensive scheme back to a 4-3. So much useless time and assets wasted on 3-4 D-Lineman the past two years its scary.
HC gets fired next off season
gettleman "retires" in three years and Abrams takes over
Maggie Gray on the radio today called the rebuild a shell game, and she couldn't be more right. Unfortunately, I see exactly what you're predicting as happening, and the win totals will stay right where they are.
The DC will be the scapegoat, he is gone, which solves nothing in that this is not a tem fighting hard that is blowing leads late. This is a garbage team that can not bang for four quarters. Endless mental error, can't run the ball, can't stop the run, pace the league in big plays given up, poor offensive efficiency, turnover prone just a sorry group that is firmly planted on the ass end of the NFL.
To me this falls on the head man. He is not the guy. He lost with Cleveland and is losing now. People are watching this team and see improvement?
He will be back in my mind unless the team loses out. They should promote the special teams coach.
Gettleman and Shurmer haven't earned the right to be back if the team is, in all liklihood, worse at the conclusion of 2019 as it was when they walked through the door.
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I don't think we will win all three of those games.
I don't either. I think we'll be lucky to win two more games, and there is the real possibility we may not win any.
IMO if they lose all 3 vs the Jets, Phins and Skins, then Shurmur will be out.