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E. Elliot "The Easiest 140 Yards I ever gained"

nzyme : 11/5/2019 11:49 am
Freaking disgusting read... When you read what he's describing it makes you the organization to fire Bettcher on the spot!!

I can't stand this guy, but as fans we should thank him for shining a  
GiantsUA : 11/5/2019 11:52 am : link
light on the obvious.

Steve, John, Pat, Dave - "laughing stock of the division".

Softest defense in the NFC
Embarrassing defense  
Br00klyn : 11/5/2019 11:53 am : link
every time Zeke touched the ball he had 5-8 yards before the first defender even touched him
RE: I can't stand this guy, but as fans we should thank him for shining a  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/5/2019 11:54 am : link
In comment 14665182 GiantsUA said:
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light on the obvious.

Steve, John, Pat, Dave - "laughing stock of the division".

Softest defense in the NFC

If you're gonna call the defense the softest in the NFC (and you wouldn't be wrong) and call out those responsible by name, let's not forget the most important one:

James.
Leonard Williams must love that quote.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/5/2019 11:56 am : link
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GiantEgo : 11/5/2019 11:58 am : link
There is just not enough talent this isn't complicated. Williams is probably already the best player on defense.
I'm  
AcidTest : 11/5/2019 12:02 pm : link
sure he's right. The holes were gaping. He frequently wasn't touched until he reached the second level.
RE: Leonard Williams must love that quote.  
crick n NC : 11/5/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14665204 Dave in Hoboken said:
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The giants employed only two dl against one of the best OL's in football. I am not sure your criticism of Williams is quite fair.
The Truth hurts  
George from PA : 11/5/2019 12:04 pm : link
Obviously, the front 7 must look in the mirror.

The cut back running lanes were embarrassing.

Why?
run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer  
ron mexico : 11/5/2019 12:11 pm : link
Giants ran the ball for 100 yards with 54 coming from the QB
Dallas ran the ball for 172 yards
0 sacks 5 QB hits
Yeah, take it from whence  
section125 : 11/5/2019 12:16 pm : link
it comes. They had fights going on all night and they were on the wrong end of all the PFs. Of course his retaliation is to say it was the easiest...it wasn't hard, to be honest, but this is more about kicking sand..
I don't much care for Zeke, but I'm impressed by how well  
Mad Mike : 11/5/2019 12:18 pm : link
he speaks German.
RE: RE: Leonard Williams must love that quote.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/5/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14665247 crick n NC said:
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The giants employed only two dl against one of the best OL's in football. I am not sure your criticism of Williams is quite fair.


It's very fair. He played. He was out there.
Giants should have not allowed 140 yards.  
Giant John : 11/5/2019 12:35 pm : link
You donít want to hear the talk then donít give up the yards. Very simple.
RE: RE: RE: Leonard Williams must love that quote.  
crick n NC : 11/5/2019 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14665339 Dave in Hoboken said:
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The giants employed only two dl against one of the best OL's in football. I am not sure your criticism of Williams is quite fair.



It's very fair. He played. He was out there.


Do you believe in coaches putting their players in situations to succeed?

Jones needs to be put in situations to succeed, as do any player hoping to succeed. Do you feel Jones is being put in a situation to succeed? I don't think he is. The reason I bring up Jones is that you understand Jones needs help (all players do), but why not Williams? Two legit dl against one of the best OL's in football seems like a total mismatch no matter who the dl are.
I have no idea why Dallas  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/5/2019 12:52 pm : link
even tried to pass last night
They have  
PaulN : 11/5/2019 1:22 pm : link
No linebackers!!!!!!!!!! How fucking long do they think you don't need great linebackers, this is John Mara, they have not addressed the linebacker position properly since that guy stepped into prominence. He is involved way more then he should be and is helping to fuck this up more and more, I do not believe for a second that Gettleman has autonomy at all. Jones is not improving but regressing, the offensive line is regressing, every aspect of this team is getting worse, there is not one fucking area of improvement. Not one!!!!
Including  
PaulN : 11/5/2019 1:22 pm : link
The Quarterback position.
Eli Manning  
PaulN : 11/5/2019 1:33 pm : link
Would be better now, and that was not the case 5 games back, why? Jones stinks right now, he flashes some ability, but overall he sucks now, and he did not look that way earlier.

Gettleman for anyone who would have the balls to defend him, since the Mara interference with the entire Eli situation, with him inheriting a toxic situation and an organization that did not have much talent, but he hired Shurmur!!!

He signed Ogletree, he signed Solder, he signed Remmers, he loves Halapio, he traded for Williams, Baker was a first rounder, he signed Bethea, traded for Peppers, traded for Zeitler. Look how bad the offensive line is, look at the garbage we parade out there at linebacker, look at the other teams linebackers, they are way better. Where is Love?

Look at some of the players he let go and how they are producing better now that they are gone off this shitshow.
I don't get why they used a pass rush front the entire  
beatrixkiddo : 11/5/2019 3:21 pm : link
game and didn't adjust once, they should have gone with a heavier front to stop the run. Headscratching game planning which continues each week, bad coaching across the board. Bettcher, Shurmer are in over their heads.
RE: Eli Manning  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/5/2019 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14665515 PaulN said:
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Would be better now, and that was not the case 5 games back, why? Jones stinks right now, he flashes some ability, but overall he sucks now, and he did not look that way earlier.

Gettleman for anyone who would have the balls to defend him, since the Mara interference with the entire Eli situation, with him inheriting a toxic situation and an organization that did not have much talent, but he hired Shurmur!!!

He signed Ogletree, he signed Solder, he signed Remmers, he loves Halapio, he traded for Williams, Baker was a first rounder, he signed Bethea, traded for Peppers, traded for Zeitler. Look how bad the offensive line is, look at the garbage we parade out there at linebacker, look at the other teams linebackers, they are way better. Where is Love?

Look at some of the players he let go and how they are producing better now that they are gone off this shitshow.

Eli stinks too. What is it that you think Ei would be better at? Not fumbling? Are you kidding? Eli has had his share of fumbles too, on his way to leading the NFL in turnovers for the length of his career.
RE: Eli Manning  
AndyMilligan : 11/5/2019 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14665515 PaulN said:
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Would be better now, and that was not the case 5 games back, why? Jones stinks right now, he flashes some ability, but overall he sucks now, and he did not look that way earlier.

Gettleman for anyone who would have the balls to defend him, since the Mara interference with the entire Eli situation, with him inheriting a toxic situation and an organization that did not have much talent, but he hired Shurmur!!!

He signed Ogletree, he signed Solder, he signed Remmers, he loves Halapio, he traded for Williams, Baker was a first rounder, he signed Bethea, traded for Peppers, traded for Zeitler. Look how bad the offensive line is, look at the garbage we parade out there at linebacker, look at the other teams linebackers, they are way better. Where is Love?

Look at some of the players he let go and how they are producing better now that they are gone off this shitshow.


Jones has to play. He was the 6th pick of the draft. You don't leave that investment on the bench. we have to see what we have in him. We have to give him playing time to improve. Playing Eli is pointless. Eli sucks. He wouldnt make us a playoff team.
PaulN  
Marty866b : 11/5/2019 3:48 pm : link
Except for the Eli playing stuff I agree with everything you said.
RE: I have no idea why Dallas  
LS : 11/5/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14665399 Paulie Walnuts said:
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even tried to pass last night


This. The Cowboys could have beaten the Giants last night if they just ran every single play.
"The Easiest 140 Yards I ever gained"  
x meadowlander : 11/5/2019 4:44 pm : link
Reason 1,942 to hate Dallas.

That one is going to stick until the Giants turn it around.
The D wasnt terrible and if the offense  
Giantz_comeback : 11/5/2019 6:06 pm : link
Showed up the D would have been better rested. And that ridiculous PI on Baker was a backbreaker. This is much less on Bettch as it is on Shirmy.
The Defensive Line Got Good Push  
OntheRoad : 11/5/2019 11:04 pm : link
but seemed completely unable to move laterally and tackle. It was the most frustrating run defense I can remember watching.

Replacing Mayo with a stud ILB would make a big difference, but there is a lot more. I can't believe the defensive line are this bad as individual players.
RE:  
santacruzom : 11/5/2019 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14665896 x meadowlander said:
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Reason 1,942 to hate Dallas.

That one is going to stick until the Giants turn it around.


I'd actually classify it as a reason to hate the Giants.
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