Isaiah Simmons - Safety/Linebacker for Clemson

Sound like the kind of linebacker we need here;)

In comment 14666014 Bradshaw's Decal said:

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Sound like the kind of linebacker we need here;)

Bahahahaha

and linebackers. these tweeners are always great athletes, but giants have two already. Is this a 1st round prospect? Where would be fit in?

not address our two biggest weaknesses - OL and pass rush.

He would be a 3 down player. You want somebody to cover a TE? He’s your guy. He can blitz and tackle. Sign me up.

RE-sign Leo Williams
Sign Justin Simmons for FS
Sign a pass rusher like Bud Dupree

In comment 14666048 Rjanyg said:

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He would be a 3 down player. You want somebody to cover a TE? He’s your guy. He can blitz and tackle. Sign me up. RE-sign Leo Williams Sign Justin Simmons for FS Sign a pass rusher like Bud Dupree

No offense to you but I hope we never have to hear that term again after year.

In comment 14666067 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14666048 Rjanyg said: Quote: He would be a 3 down player. You want somebody to cover a TE? He’s your guy. He can blitz and tackle. Sign me up. RE-sign Leo Williams Sign Justin Simmons for FS Sign a pass rusher like Bud Dupree No offense to you but I hope we never have to hear that term again after year.

Money backer? I hear ya. He is a very good LB either way.

If the top outs are gone, he’d be my pick

Is a fucking beast, but will probably screw it up. Connelly and Simmonds in the middle, Two good instinctive ILB'ers sounds great.

After watching Jaylon Smith last night, who wouldn't love to have a LB like that.

I'd put him pretty high on my list, right after Chase Young, Andrew Thomas, and Tristan Wirfs. Grant Delpit probably right after Simmons.

I've seen alot of Epenesa talk- he does not fit anywhere on this team. He is not a fit as a 3-4 OLB- no bend or burst. He is either a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 DE (Which we do not need)

In comment 14666179 Breeze_94 said:

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After watching Jaylon Smith last night, who wouldn't love to have a LB like that. I'd put him pretty high on my list, right after Chase Young, Andrew Thomas, and Tristan Wirfs. Grant Delpit probably right after Simmons. I've seen alot of Epenesa talk- he does not fit anywhere on this team. He is not a fit as a 3-4 OLB- no bend or burst. He is either a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 DE (Which we do not need)

You actually like Tristan Wirfs? I’m aware of the measurables but I don’t see it when he plays, I could be missing it. But yeah, totally agree on where you have Simmons, he should absolutely be a target for us once Andrew Thomas is off the board.

Sounds good to me

On the other side give me Amari Rogers in a later round if he’s around. He should be getting more attentions.

served by getting a strong dl and teams that run a 3-4 are best served by getting strong linebackers. Of course you want good players in both units, it's just a question of emphasis. Our two Super Bowl teams in the Parcells era ran a 3-4 and had LT, Carson and Banks. Our two Super Bowl teams in the Coughlin era had Strahan, Osi and Tuck.

i worry he will be more athlete than football player if he plays ILB because he has more experience playing off the ball than as a traditional MLB. i also worry how think he is in the pro game to take on blocks as an MLB in the 3-4

so projecting him to the giants i see a S

In comment 14666294 GiantsFan84 said:

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i worry he will be more athlete than football player if he plays ILB because he has more experience playing off the ball than as a traditional MLB. i also worry how think he is in the pro game to take on blocks as an MLB in the 3-4 so projecting him to the giants i see a S

He would have to bulk up to play ILB.

In comment 14666217 aGiantGuy said:

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In comment 14666179 Breeze_94 said: Quote: After watching Jaylon Smith last night, who wouldn't love to have a LB like that. I'd put him pretty high on my list, right after Chase Young, Andrew Thomas, and Tristan Wirfs. Grant Delpit probably right after Simmons. I've seen alot of Epenesa talk- he does not fit anywhere on this team. He is not a fit as a 3-4 OLB- no bend or burst. He is either a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 DE (Which we do not need) You actually like Tristan Wirfs? I’m aware of the measurables but I don’t see it when he plays, I could be missing it. But yeah, totally agree on where you have Simmons, he should absolutely be a target for us once Andrew Thomas is off the board.

I haven't watched much of Wirfs to really have my own opinion yet. From what I've seen, he looks dominant though. And also saw him mocked ahead of Thomas in a recent mock at 2nd overall so he seems to be gaining steam.

I actually saw a tweet today from someone saying there are scouts who have Austin Jackson from USC over Andrew Thomas.

In comment 14666231 markky said:

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On the other side give me Amari Rogers in a later round if he’s around. He should be getting more attentions.

Love Amari Rogers. He is in the Golden Tate/Shepard mold so a bit redundant with the current options on the roster... but with Tate being 32 and Shepards long-term health in question, I would not mind him later in the draft.

In comment 14666119 LeftHook said:

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Is a fucking beast, but will probably screw it up. Connelly and Simmonds in the middle, Two good instinctive ILB'ers sounds great.

100% agree he is all over the place playmaker !

So what do we do with him when Bettcher is canned?

That Gettleman will be looking to draft a money backer for Bettcher. Simmons would seemingly be an awesome fit.

However, IMO unless Chase Young is there or another player offers immense value at the first round pick, such as Jerry Jeudy for example, I want a LT. My dream is somehow the Giants land at a spot where a highly coveted QB is and they trade down, still get the OL help, can address LB as well or perhaps draft two OTs. Sadly, the Giants very likely will need to lose out for that to happen. I believe Joe Burrow and Tua will go 1 & 2. Herbert might be the next QB taken. Who knows at this point but this team still needs 4 really good picks out of the next draft, I think. Two tackles, an Edge, a WR, and a money backer. I'd address safety and at least one of those other positions in free agency. This seems like a tall order but I think it will be doable if the Giants can allocate their resources successfully.

The Giants need to go back to the 4-3 next year with Connerly as the mike man

In comment 14666228 ghost718 said:

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Sounds good to me

No thanks on Epenesa.

In comment 14666024 MM_in_NYC said:

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not address our two biggest weaknesses - OL and pass rush.

Yes he does. He's a pretty good pass rusher. He has 6 sacks this year. More sacks than anybody we will be able to get at our pick outside of Chase Young.

Here are a few ERs who are right now considered 1st rounders or have been mocked in the 1st.

AJ Epenesa - 3.5 sacks
Gross-Matos - 5 sacks
Jabari Zuniga - 3 sacks
K'Lavon Chaisson - 2 sacks

You also can't draft for need like that. Yeah an OT and ER might be more important, but if Young & Thomas are gone there probably isn't one worth the pick we have.

He and Simmons in the middle and this defense is in position and 100% better.

I'd like OL the rest of the draft.

bettcher can't get his own moneybacker types to play well why should we invest in one?

i like it better when those guys were called what they were, tweeners.

is that what "edge" is now as well? Edge, could be DE, could be OLB...

reggie torbor was technically an "edge" for us? lol

is tweener derogatory or something?

is a beast.
Simmons - ( New Window )

In comment 14666688 HoustonGiant said:

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He and Simmons in the middle and this defense is in position and 100% better. I'd like OL the rest of the draft.

Ditto that. Could be a great combo.

In comment 14666793 Platos said:

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bettcher can't get his own moneybacker types to play well why should we invest in one? i like it better when those guys were called what they were, tweeners. is that what "edge" is now as well? Edge, could be DE, could be OLB... reggie torbor was technically an "edge" for us? lol is tweener derogatory or something?

His new money backer has played 2 games for us, 0 starts yet, and 39 total snaps.

His other "money" backer is a cast-off named Mayo who is playing because Connelly is out for the year.