Age 49, long time coordinator for Pete Carroll in Seattle, so a top tier coach worked with him for nearing a decade. Now OC for the Lions. I’m actually surprised he isn’t a regular HC candidate but his resume stands out.
Negatives (from the Giants .org perspective but not mine): No Giants connections,
What do you guys know about Bevell?
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Two other people that stand out:
Mike Groh- Eagles OC. Started out as a nepotism hire but was promoted to the Eagles OC position independent of his father, so establishing himself in his own. No doubt that the Eagles gameplanning is on a different level than the Giants. Age 47. Grew up in NJ for what it’s worth.
Nathaniel Hackett Packers OC. Only 39 but has already held 3 different OC positions, indicating that he is highly thought of within league circles. I hope DG is looking closely at Hackett.
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Two other people that stand out:
Mike Groh- Eagles OC. Started out as a nepotism hire but was promoted to the Eagles OC position independent of his father, so establishing himself in his own. No doubt that the Eagles gameplanning is on a different level than the Giants. Age 47. Grew up in NJ for what it’s worth.
Nathaniel Hackett Packers OC. Only 39 but has already held 3 different OC positions, indicating that he is highly thought of within league circles. I hope DG is looking closely at Hackett.
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Hackett has held that many positions because of who is father is and his ties to Doug Marrone. That keeps getting him positions despite not really having success. Also, what is with the focus on current OC's? We don't need another glorified OC as Head Coach who gets tunnel vision on the offensive side. That does not mean we can't go with an offensive guy, as I said elsewhere I am a fan of Dan Campbell, but I would be leery of any head coaching candidate on any side of the football that wants to call his own plays.
Find a ST coordinator that is excellent at what they do, and they should be given consideration for a HC role. The next HC should be able to have competent coordinators that are responsible for the respective sides of the ball.
I’m not endorsing this but one guy to think about is Gus Bradley, the Chargers DC, who had an unsuccessful run as the Jaguars HC. A lot of experience. A Monte Kiffen protege. No Giants connections.
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Limited skills, game manager and smart
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I’m not endorsing this but one guy to think about is Gus Bradley, the Chargers DC, who had an unsuccessful run as the Jaguars HC. A lot of experience. A Monte Kiffen protege. No Giants connections. NFL DCs Wiki - ( New Window )
I do not wnat a guy who was NOT successful as a HC before. Even BB, who had some down years in Cleveland, had some success there and there were other issues that contributed to his lack of overall Wins. Bradley is a NO GO for me.
Find a ST coordinator that is excellent at what they do, and they should be given consideration for a HC role. The next HC should be able to have competent coordinators that are responsible for the respective sides of the ball.
The chiefs ST Coach was mentioned as a HC candidate a few years ago. I don’t remember his name right now
This is stupid might as well see what parcells kids are doing too
Find a ST coordinator that is excellent at what they do, and they should be given consideration for a HC role. The next HC should be able to have competent coordinators that are responsible for the respective sides of the ball.
Dave Toub KC Chiefs with (for a change) strong and effective OC and DC.
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Of the realistic non-Saban, non-Belichick candidates, Roman would be my favorite option at this point. What I described above is the long term benefit; the short term benefit would be the maximization of Barkley and Jones as running threats and the accompanying trickle down to the OL and defense.
I'm generally against hiring NCAA coaches absent special circumstances because I think the pro game is just so much more sophisticated and the teams evenly matched.
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Go big, go bold, and hope the old man will want to come to the Giants as an advisor, GM, director of football ops...
This is stupid might as well see what parcells kids are doing too
Why is this stupid? Steve is the de facto DC for the Pats. He's calling the plays.
So even Bradley, who I don't think is close to being the most interesting candidate here, really looks like a better hire than Shurmur.
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Go big, go bold, and hope the old man will want to come to the Giants as an advisor, GM, director of football ops...
This is stupid might as well see what parcells kids are doing too
Why is this stupid? Steve is the de facto DC for the Pats. He's calling the plays.
Sure he is.
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Go big, go bold, and hope the old man will want to come to the Giants as an advisor, GM, director of football ops...
This is stupid might as well see what parcells kids are doing too
Why is this stupid? Steve is the de facto DC for the Pats. He's calling the plays.
Sure he is.
Believe what you want to believe, but it's out there. I guess you think Patricia or Flores weren't running the defense either? He's following their same exact process.
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I don't agree with this as a blanket statement. Usually your opponent is weaker in one defensive facet. Either by roster construction or injury. In Bevell's case I think he's one of the best at staying focused on an opponents weakness until he can break it down. This was a strategy Parcell's went to war with as well. Does it always work? No, but his overall success speaks to the soundness of the philosophy imo.
He's been on the coaching staff for 7 years. Do you really think he gets to call plays because of his last name? And they have the best defense in the league. The Chris Mara point is dumb, but carry on.
Sean McVay was a coordinator for two years before becoming a head coach with a total of 8 years of experience. That lack of experience hasn't seemed to harm him from being a good coach.
Shurmur isn't getting fired this year unless he loses to the Jets, so it would be worth it to bring him on under Shurmur when they fire Bettcher. Then when they fire Shurmur after next year, Steve could be a potential head coaching candidate.
Retreads suck, it's about time the FO do something outside the box and they can't let the McAdoo hiring affect that. As time passes I think the stink on McAdoo looks less and less profound when you see how much of a shit show the entire organization was. Kind of funny how the adults in the room won't match McAdoo's win total over his two year stretch. He'll they might have a hard time surpassing that total over 3 years.
Answer: Nothing. Well, except his asinine decision to throw from the 1 yard line in the 2014 SB.
Overrated. Pass.
Answer: Nothing. Well, except his asinine decision to throw from the 1 yard line in the 2014 SB.
Overrated. Pass.
I argue that Bevell did great things to allow Wilson to succeed. They continuously built around Wilson's skills/strengths instead of playing the offense he used in Minnesota.
Can't judge any of Wilson's OCs on their work with the Seahawks (now Schottenheimer).
You have barkley and rookie QB. Why we didn't follow that example baffles me.