Simply put, if Daniel Jones can significantly clean up the fumbles, Baker, Ballentine, Love and Beal can get quality experience and learn, and Dex & Williams can gel together, kidding aside, I would be happy. That is the measuring stick for my "success" for November and December.
Yes, I would love to beat the Jets this weekend. I suspect these teams will stumble and bumble the ebb and flow of the game back and forth until someone is ahead when the clock strikes zero. I think a "win" for both teams would be a solid, competitive contest where both Darnold and Jones play well. I say that, because there has been this underlying narrative that ones success will be at the expense of the other. Claims of "Darnold sucks, Jones is awesome. Jones sucks, Darnold is the guy we should have drafted" ! What if both turn out to be real good, franchise starters? I feel that scenario is rarely discussed. Just maybe we both have our guy.
Anyway, back to the point, wins and losses mean absolutely nothing to me after this Jets game. Health matters (don't get Jones killed) and draft position matters. Securing a stud tackle, LB or DE matters.
I'm not looking for the second layer of those aforementioned positions in the 2020 draft. I want THE guy. An immediate starter, an immediate culture changer, an impact stud. Would love for Jones to have his blind side buddy locked up for a decade. Two guys practically entering the league together.
Here's to the holidays ahead. Here's to our sanity. Stay safe Daniel Jones. Go Blue
We must figure out how to win against bFC East
I agree on Slayton, although given the draft position we gave up for him, I think even at status quo, he's exceeded expectations.
I agree, although I hate to say it, I think we are past that point right now. I'm more about individual player progress.
Flipside to that - there would be some hope in that starting Jones might give the team a kick start and improve some of it's issues, same as we saw when they went 0-2.
Right now, there's no savior on the bench.
You don't have to strain your imagination. Just go back to last year when we drafted a fourth round quarterback in Lauletta and barely looked at him after we fell to 1-7. Not only that, the head coach actually insulted him in a press conference.
I absolutely think DG can get us to the Super Bowl. He's not perfect so don't think I'm a fan boy. But he has the resume to do it. Shurmur? Zero chance he can make that happen unless every chip perfectly fell into line.
DG isn't going anywhere this year, or next. I will say, the only way it happens is if Bill B wants in. For full control.
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Fire both PS and DG, when you can't even field a competent team it's time to go. Seriously is there anybody who thinks these two can get the Giants to the SB? Because that is the ultimate goal isn't it?
I absolutely think DG can get us to the Super Bowl. He's not perfect so don't think I'm a fan boy. But he has the resume to do it. Shurmur? Zero chance he can make that happen unless every chip perfectly fell into line.
DG isn't going anywhere this year, or next. I will say, the only way it happens is if Bill B wants in. For full control.
You're probably right about DG, but why does he get a pass, this is his revamped, failure of an OL and most of the sub-par talent on defense. His FA, trades and cap mgmt. are abysmal. His resume is the past, it's time for this team to look to the future!
If guys in the secondary, on the DL, Slayton - don't show that they're actually developing somewhat, then you don't have much to go on when you're trying to build your roster next year. Slayton and Jones have at least shown some production albeit with flaws. Some of these guys have just outright stunk.
On D, shut down the middle gaps vs runs while also attacking the passer (move lb into gap pre snap?) and show us some reliable man cover from the rookie dbacks .
Loosing anyway you gotta try the rooks at man cover.
Tom, I agree with you. I think this team is improving but they desperately need to invest in the offensive line this offseason as well as bring in a new coaching staff.
It's possible.
That said , the 2-4-5 is really dumb.
On O:
the scheme sucks for OL outcomes plain and simple and not a new story at all.
As for the last draft, you simply cannot address O upside and get badly needed great D players both in one draft.
That's why year 1 I suggest new O scheme (+ free agents) and draft D high for now.
Possible exception on O draft, burst zone rb, blocking TE that will help w zone runs and center ditto .
Betch no eeds to commit to no more 2-4-5 and shurm to no more Packers lite OL madness.
But we've been saying this for how many years now? Futility....
But we've been saying this for how many years now? Futility....
True, but if we really suck, we might be able to trade back and get a few pieces at once. Similar to Colts with Nelson and Leonard. I mean that is the gold standard, and that doesn't happen that well, often. But if a QB hungry team wants our spot, say at #3-4, trade it back