I am too young for the debacle of the 70s but these are clearly the two worst eras in Giant football of my lifetime.
91-99 had bad offenses, bad coaching and after 93 no QB. The great teams of the 80s were aging out. Our legendary coach was replaced by that guy. Misfortune let BB get away. The defenses were generally ok if I remember, but it was brutal to watch the Kent Graham, Dave Brown, and Danny Kannell era. On the positive, we drafted Strahan during this time and were building toward 2000 when we got a QB who could carry the offense in Collins to mesh with a decent defense. We also made the playoffs twice in 93 and 97 (great defensive team--terrible on offense).
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This era. Bad on both sides of the ball. Didn't score 30 points for that whole streak until last year. Two terrible coaches in McAdoo and Shurmur. Ruining Eli's last good years. Only made the playoffs once and besides 2012 and 2016 we really never competed for the playoffs?
If I had to go with one over the other I think I say this era has been more painful. Both were hard to watch though.
My family has season tickets and I’ve never felt less inclined to use them for so many reasons. I can barely get through a game on TV which is astounding.
I wonder if with the age of internet (making the season ticket a moot point) and the threat of the possible end of football someday, if this kind of shitty play might actually erode a fan base (unlike it did in the 70s). I always watch games, never miss them, but I have found myself wondering why I even watched. It feels like the Knicks which is scary.
QBs are hard to find, we did not have one for most of the 90,s
No linebackers or OL for a decade. It is crazy. FIX IT.
Didn't realize Perkins got 2 seasons then the axe and BP came in.
Back then, even when bad I always thought that there was a least a chance they would win.
Now, its turn it on and wait for crap to happen. They just arent fun to watch at all!!
How many times can you watch the most talented RB in the league receive a handoff with no momentum and run it straight into the line. Or watch 3rd and 15's get picked up all game long after playing well on 1st and 2nd down.
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But the ineptitude of the Giants makes it very frustrating. 64-81, 91-99 and now...they were all bad but now and 64-81 seem to be the worst. There just doesn't seem to be any hope. There's been only one constant...the Mara family. Somehow, we have to get these people out of the building...hire a President of the team and eliminate the nepotism that permeates the Giants.
Please some perspective...They are 5-0 in championship games 4-1 in the super bowl. Would you really trade that with the Eagles?
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NFC East team since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970. Sadly, I've been around and am still around for all these eras. It has been tough to remain a Giants' fan but, fortunately, I am built that way. All the teams I cheer for have been the same teams since I was 7.
But the ineptitude of the Giants makes it very frustrating. 64-81, 91-99 and now...they were all bad but now and 64-81 seem to be the worst. There just doesn't seem to be any hope. There's been only one constant...the Mara family. Somehow, we have to get these people out of the building...hire a President of the team and eliminate the nepotism that permeates the Giants.
Please some perspective...They are 5-0 in championship games 4-1 in the super bowl. Would you really trade that with the Eagles?
Plus the Cardinals were in the NFC East for quite awhile during that stretch as well.
The other two eras mentioned have had more stability in those categories.
This is sort of my own dilemma as well. I can't tell if the Giants are making me lose interest in the NFL, or if the NFL is making me lose interest in the Giants.
I tend to think it's more a function of the Giants being bad than a deterioration of play issue; though the latter is certainly a contributing factor. The landscape of the league probably has never been worse since I've been watching. Every rule change makes the league shittier than before, and I don't think it's going to take long before the product on the field looks nothing like what most of us grew up watching.
For as long as the Giants and the NFL exist, I know I'll keep watching and keep rooting for them. But, years like we've had lately are exhausting.
The luster of the new season has worn off within a month and we've quickly realized that we're left with a crappy football team that isn't going anywhere anytime soon - for what feels like the 5th or 6th time in about as many years.
I feel identically. I'm 41.
This is a pathetic excuse for an organization right now.
As it happens, on BBI we get reminded about the 70s, so yes we know because you tell us about those years, every, single, day.
Again. Eagles WINNING SUPER BOWL. Painful. Fuck off with the Dallas hater shit. SB 52 was the one thing that shouldve never happened and it did. Nauseating seeing that scumbag fanbase get their way.
But the ineptitude of the Giants makes it very frustrating. 64-81, 91-99 and now...they were all bad but now and 64-81 seem to be the worst. There just doesn't seem to be any hope. There's been only one constant...the Mara family. Somehow, we have to get these people out of the building...hire a President of the team and eliminate the nepotism that permeates the Giants.
GTFO with that. The Giants have won 4 Super Bowls. The Skins have 3, the Eagles 1. The whole point of this exercise is to win it all. To say the Giants are 'worst team since the merger' is ridiculous. Also, the Cards were in our division until 01 or 02.
1978 was the year of “The Fumble”. Gibson was fired. Tickets were burned, The “We’ve Had Enough” banner flew. McVay was fired. That was the Nadir.
1979 brought George Young, Ray Perkins, Phil Simms. Still a losing team, but one with new promise. It was a not a year fans were disgusted with.
But the ridiculousness in drafting since the last SuperBowl win and the awful mismanagement and poor decision making regarding Eli is simply egregious.