NFT: 11/8 Knicks Chat: Porzingis admits he wanted traded

Need one more bucket.

FU

We're determined to blow it.

Fiz has a nice moment with KP. Classy, but I'd tell him to go fuck himself.

can't do the easiest thing even at a mediocre clip. Pressure shots are tough, but they haven't made any all season. Just awful

Let’s see if it gets them on track.

This egghead standing there mystified after they fouled Barrett.

this night belongs to Frank.

GROWN. MAN. GAME.

will kill a lot of easy bash-the-Knicks columns going into next week's game at MSG vs Mavs.

Frank found the rhythm tonight.

Very satisfying.

hope Frank keeps it going but I'm not holding my breath just yet. Even just that effort on D would make him such a valuable player, esp on a shit D team

Now don't let the party end. Keep it going.

cant leave until you make 80

And Randle beat him for the key rebound on RJ's missed FT.

Decent line in box score but not a winning effort.

mavericks have 2 players, when they are off the court that team is horrible..

He is a real talent, but quite the checker. And is it just me or does it look like he pushes off on almost every drive to the basket?

In comment 14669948 steve in ky said:

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He is a real talent, but quite the checker. And is it just me or does it look like he pushes off on almost every drive to the basket?

Ugh auto correct

Chucker not checker

In comment 14669948 steve in ky said:

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He is a real talent, but quite the checker. And is it just me or does it look like he pushes off on almost every drive to the basket?

His second half last year was awful..

they need to find a 3rd scorer otherwise him and kp will be done by the 2nd half of the season..

their opponent

Dame’s got 50 with 6 minutes left. Portland up three.

If this truly is the coming out party for Frank N — then there is light at the end of the tunnel for this franchise. RJ, Robinson, Knox, Frank = average age of 20.25 + five first round picks over the next three years + a healthy amount of cap space. . . .nothing should be more important to Fizdale than the development of these four guys and nothing should be more important to the scouts than watching every minute of the top 5-7 guys in this draft.
Knicks should send a shout to live in Australia.

Of course, if this was just one game and Ntilikina goes back to being tentative and playing with a lack of confidence then the Knicks road is a bit more rocky.

PS—RJ should shoot at least 200 free throws a day. Kid shot .690 at the free throw line in college, just get back there to start with.

but I'm kinda hoping he finds a home here. I'd have no problem giving him a 2-3 year deal this summer. Frank/Morris/Mitch/RJ makes for an excellent defensive unit. Find another scorer in the top 10 of this year's draft and we might have a little something to develop.

He's clearly going to live at the line in the pros. He NEEDS to be a good free throw shooter.

Yeah, he's erratic, but was coming back from a back injury when his stepmother died. He's only 21. I wouldn't mind him at all as a long-term back-up for Frank, assuming Frank is what he seemed to he tonight. Frank could shoot terrifically in the under 18s btw, 54% from the three. He just lost confidence. He is so long for a pg and a great defender for a pg that big.

And, Randle and Portis are 24 and worth something. Getting something out of the 5 first rounders over the next 3 years, and someone of quality for their cap space this year or next, and possibly even a trade for one of their players at trade time, and this could be a team. With the talent two years more mature, lots of cap space, and two first round picks in 2021, and they could fill up the roster. Talent won't be scared about coming here with the youth all two years more mature, and mostly much better.

I still like Knox's potential a lot, although this year he is stuck behind Morris.

Back of the lottery could be a good slot this year.

big if since it was only one game, i am ckmpletely ok playing robinson off thr bench, until he learns not to foul, he can still get 25 minutes a night..

shot 66% percent free throws in college. That blows.NBA players should be a least 75%

Mike Breen "Randle's spin move is a turnover waiting to happen" - ha ha ha

Seriously - he does have some positives - needs to be reeled in and disciplined if he goes off the reservation.

Fiz - yep -

Can't have sloppy mcsloppy bringing the ball up - dribbling east and west beyond the 3 point line. Trying to do "too much" - quite frankly out of control.

I am going to continue to complain. If he has some highlights great, but, the negatives far out weight the positives at this point.

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Mike Breen "Randle's spin move is a turnover waiting to happen" - ha ha ha Seriously - he does have some positives - needs to be reeled in and disciplined if he goes off the reservation. Fiz - yep - Can't have sloppy mcsloppy bringing the ball up - dribbling east and west beyond the 3 point line. Trying to do "too much" - quite frankly out of control. I am going to continue to complain. If he has some highlights great, but, the negatives far out weight the positives at this point.

lets be fair, he had 21 8 and 4 last night, his defense was not horrible...i get the turnovers are annoying but he played well laat night..

clutch jumper and his defense was good in the 4th

In comment 14669998 GiantsUA said:

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Mike Breen "Randle's spin move is a turnover waiting to happen" - ha ha ha Seriously - he does have some positives - needs to be reeled in and disciplined if he goes off the reservation. Fiz - yep - Can't have sloppy mcsloppy bringing the ball up - dribbling east and west beyond the 3 point line. Trying to do "too much" - quite frankly out of control. I am going to continue to complain. If he has some highlights great, but, the negatives far out weight the positives at this point.

So, you’re going to continue to complain. Lovely. And what exactly is that accomplishing? Other than driving the rest of the board crazy because you keep repeating yourself day after day. We get it. You hate Randle. You’re on record. Why is that not good enough? Why must the rest of us suffer because you like to constantly complain about the same thing over and over again? You really like complaining that much? Ugh, there are some strange birds out there...

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I think Randle would be much better coming off bench with Portis

Starting 5

Frank
RJ
Knox
Morris
Mitch

Play Morris and trade him for a first

Developing the other 4 is so important to this teams future

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Wtf? You constantly complaining on BBI is going to get these glaring issues fixed? That’s some deep shit there man. Some random guy on a football fan website that the Knicks (basketball) have no idea even exits is sure to get this all turned around! Keep on complaining my friend! That’ll teach em!

I've crushed Frank like most people - but that was some performance last night. Wherever the fuck that came from, I want more of it.

Brutal game for RJ - it's going to happen. A lot of really great players struggled at first. He's still such a young kid. Just really hope he can improve on FT's. That almost lost us the game last night.

Nice win though. One of the best games the Knicks have played this year sans the sloppy close-out. Thought they did a lot of good things.

In comment 14670023 arcarsenal said:

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I've crushed Frank like most people - but that was some performance last night. Wherever the fuck that came from, I want more of it. Brutal game for RJ - it's going to happen. A lot of really great players struggled at first. He's still such a young kid. Just really hope he can improve on FT's. That almost lost us the game last night. Nice win though. One of the best games the Knicks have played this year sans the sloppy close-out. Thought they did a lot of good things.

he just needs to hit free throws, he is so agressive driving to the hoop,if he just hits feee throws he is going to score plenty of points even without a jumper..

No doubt. I love the way he attacks the rim and generates scoring chances. Even last night, he had a couple of big boy moves to get into the paint and get a high percentage shot off.

I have no real worries at all with RJ. Just needs to keep playing and he'll grow. He's got a great head on his shoulders.

Stephen Jackson was on with Boomer and Gio the other day and he was talking about how RJ is universally loved right now... pretty much everyone likes the kid and thinks he's got a great head on his shoulders and will have a great NBA career.

He looks so much more confident out there, you can tell that finally getting consistent minutes has really helped him.

Just saw a stat that Porzingis and Doncic were combined 5-15 with 5 turnovers and a blocked shot when Ntilikina was defending them. He made several “elite” level defensive plays.

Take away the 0/6 night against Chicago and his shooting has actually been pretty damn good. Over the last 5 he’s shooting 46% overall and 53% from 3.

In comment 14670019 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 14670013 GiantsUA said: Quote: . Wtf? You constantly complaining on BBI is going to get these glaring issues fixed? That’s some deep shit there man. Some random guy on a football fan website that the Knicks (basketball) have no idea even exits is sure to get this all turned around! Keep on complaining my friend! That’ll teach em!

Wow, relax, it's the weekend.

You want to pick a fight look elsewhere.

We may not havw gotten the W.

No doubt about it.

Fiz should tell Frank that if he passes up an open shot, he’s sitting.

I actually watched the MSG encore airing of the game. Best win in God knows how long. My man Frank.

I think the Knicks and Porzingis BOTH have some regrets about the breakup - everyone gave up on the relationship too quickly.

I know I’m beating a dead horse and not trying to revisit and litigate the trade again. But how excited would you be with KP on this team?

Robinson, KP, Morris, Knox, Frank, Barrett would be a fun and exiting nucleus. It was hard watching him in a Dallas uni. I know he’s not the perfect player but man did he look good last night.

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I know I’m beating a dead horse and not trying to revisit and litigate the trade again. But how excited would you be with KP on this team? Robinson, KP, Morris, Knox, Frank, Barrett would be a fun and exiting nucleus. It was hard watching him in a Dallas uni. I know he’s not the perfect player but man did he look good last night.

until the 4th quarter where he comes up small..

In comment 14670065 Mike in NJ said:

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He looks so much more confident out there, you can tell that finally getting consistent minutes has really helped him. Just saw a stat that Porzingis and Doncic were combined 5-15 with 5 turnovers and a blocked shot when Ntilikina was defending them. He made several “elite” level defensive plays. Take away the 0/6 night against Chicago and his shooting has actually been pretty damn good. Over the last 5 he’s shooting 46% overall and 53% from 3.

With his defense, if hes even an average offensive player that can make an open 3 at a half decent clip AND can at least bring up the ball on the floor without turning it over he would be quite valuable.

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No doubt. I love the way he attacks the rim and generates scoring chances. Even last night, he had a couple of big boy moves to get into the paint and get a high percentage shot off. I have no real worries at all with RJ. Just needs to keep playing and he'll grow. He's got a great head on his shoulders. Stephen Jackson was on with Boomer and Gio the other day and he was talking about how RJ is universally loved right now... pretty much everyone likes the kid and thinks he's got a great head on his shoulders and will have a great NBA career.

Paul Peirce-ish not explosive by any stretch but understands spacing and positioning of the body so well to get up shots with a body on him. It's really impressive. If he improves at the line (which he should) and from beyond the arc , he will be a bonafide star.

(Not sure he does), Ntilikina starts EVERY game rest of the year, gets at least 25 minutes, whether his offense is good or not. Now at 21, third year in the league, is when he should start to blossom. Encourage it, help it, he has a potentially elite skill ( his defense). Elite skills lead to wins and a winning team. It’s up to the coaching staff to get that out of him on a consistent basis. Controlling the other teams point guards is a great way to start getting this team straightened out. Set the tone defensively and with Robinson at center, an identity will start to emerge. When it carries over to Knox they would have a real good young player. He’s only 20. Barrett already competes at both ends, his long range shooting (and free throws have to improve. I suspect he knows that.

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Too bad Clyde wasn’t on the call for this one - he would’ve loved it.

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Ntilikina has put a stranglehold on the starting point guard job less than two weeks after the coach refused to given him the starting nod in Orlando, even though he was missing all three of his other point guards — Payton, Smith and Kadeem Allen. Fizdale made shaky excuses about wanting to keep Ntilikina out of foul trouble. Perhaps Fizdale didn’t trust him offensively to start the game. Rookie RJ Barrett instead started at point guard — out of position — and did not do well. The following day, Fizdale said he still was not going to start Ntilikina in the next game against Boston, but reversed his decision 24 hours later. The change of heart was suspicious, as Knicks president Steve Mills had a long chat with Ntilikina at the Boston practice. Mills has served as Ntilikina’s strongest supporter in the organization. Ntilikina has owned the job ever since, and his fourth straight start in Dallas turned magical.

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Quote: Ntilikina has put a stranglehold on the starting point guard job less than two weeks after the coach refused to given him the starting nod in Orlando, even though he was missing all three of his other point guards — Payton, Smith and Kadeem Allen. Fizdale made shaky excuses about wanting to keep Ntilikina out of foul trouble. Perhaps Fizdale didn’t trust him offensively to start the game. Rookie RJ Barrett instead started at point guard — out of position — and did not do well. The following day, Fizdale said he still was not going to start Ntilikina in the next game against Boston, but reversed his decision 24 hours later. The change of heart was suspicious, as Knicks president Steve Mills had a long chat with Ntilikina at the Boston practice. Mills has served as Ntilikina’s strongest supporter in the organization. Ntilikina has owned the job ever since, and his fourth straight start in Dallas turned magical. Berman - ( New Window )

Good, he needed a supporter in the organization since Fizdale never displayed a whole lot of it.

at Memphis.

Result: Mavs put up 138 points with a balanced scoring attack in easy win over the Grizzlies.

Mavs go to Boston Monday night, then get a couple off days before the rematch with Knicks at MSG on Thursday.

Get well Mitch.