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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/8/2019 12:05 pm
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Preview: New York Giants at New York Jets, November 10, 2019 - ( New Window )
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Preview:  
Britt in VA : 11/8/2019 1:26 pm : link
RE: RE: RE: Not sure what anyone expects from bettcher  
Rong5611 : 11/8/2019 1:26 pm : link
So is Dexter Lawrence.

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Deandre Baker is a First Round Pick. Not a good one, but he is.

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He has the worst lbs in the league, no pass rushers, no FS, and 1 NFL CB. These are the results. You cant scheme around it.


One of these days, the Giants will go defense in the first round and get some playmakers.

I appreciate the fact that  
Dnew15 : 11/8/2019 1:29 pm : link
you still take the time to write these Eric.

It's not easy to dedicate time out of your busy life to reflect and write about the Giants' upcoming game.

It's got be a tedious task at this point.
Ugh...that write up was sad but true. Can you imagine if the Giants  
Blue21 : 11/8/2019 1:30 pm : link
lose 2 of those 3 games. Let alone all three. It's possible. If that's the case wow. Heads need to roll. Shurmur for sure and Betcher with him. Of course if Shurmur goes they all go.
Sad  
Rong5611 : 11/8/2019 1:38 pm : link
The franchise is a mess, i.e. the late 1970's. Even Barkley isn't playing well, ankle or no ankle.

I'm not necessarily ready to give up on Gettleman...he has made some tough calls (Beckham, drafting DJ very high, etc). He has shown that he has some balls, I'll give him that.

But...they might need to do the "George Young" thing and get someone outside the "crony" network to fix this. The Mara's need to step back and let someone who knows what they are doing fix this pile of s*it.

The Jets will beat the Giants on Sunday and the shit show will accelerate to a new level.





Mara has said over and over that the worse thing is apathy  
mikeinbloomfield : 11/8/2019 1:55 pm : link
This review has it in spades. Will the Giants win? Who cares. What will happen if they lose? Probably nothing, but if its not a complete strip down from the front office on down, again who cares. Half measures like Bettcher losing his job wouldn't change the fact that his side of the ball doesn't have a player that scares the other team.


Clash of the young quarterbacks? Again, who cares? Jones will fumble, get sacked a ton and perhaps throw a pick or two. It won't mean much since the defense won't be able to stop Darnold or Bell if he plays.


I don't mind rebuilding. Every team goes through it. What I do mind is dumb decisions, like trading away draft assets for a player not signed after this year that only make a difficult process harder. Point is, I don't see light at the end of the tunnel. I don't see a unit that has improved last year to this to say the team is building around. We are mired in mediocrity that is likely to continue because I'm not sure the people steering the ship no how to get the team out of it. Again, who cares?
Question everything !  
Bluesbreaker : 11/8/2019 1:56 pm : link
Clearly the coaching staff needs to if we end up
2-14 they will have no choice !
Maybe they some how win a few more it just hurts the
draft position .They should have moved Engram and Jenkins
It seems we have put resources into DT's and not
DE's .The poor numbers are staggering !
You wonder how long Mara is content to sit in the owners box  
Mike from Ohio : 11/8/2019 1:56 pm : link
and watch fans of other teams come in and take over his stadium and mock his team while he just assumes things are about to get better.

It's a sad state this team has fallen into. Firing Shurmur is a start, but it's past time he realizes the organization is rotting and wholesale changes are needed to out it back on the right track.

Putting a football guy in charge of football operations would be a good start.
I have to admit, this was an excellent opening line....  
Britt in VA : 11/8/2019 1:57 pm : link
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In the 1981 so-bad-it’s-a-classic movie “Clash of the Titans”, Zeus told his bastard son Perseus “Find and fulfill your destiny!”


I LOL'd
Embarrassment to what they have become  
micky : 11/8/2019 2:01 pm : link
Yet AGAIN a season that has finished before Halloween and pitiful games to be played out.

I'm sure there's excuses, as always, by ownership et al, and few on here, but nothing solidifies a loseing org by their putrid record year in and year out nowadays.

They'll never learn
At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
Britt in VA : 11/8/2019 2:02 pm : link
.
Looking like JJ and the D  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/8/2019 2:10 pm : link
are already quiting on PS and making business decisions. I expect that attitude to spread this week. And JJ was making some asking a lot from your CBs tough tackles on the edge earlier in the year.

I blame Eli of course.
RE: You wonder how long Mara is content to sit in the owners box  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/8/2019 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14669445 Mike from Ohio said:
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and watch fans of other teams come in and take over his stadium and mock his team while he just assumes things are about to get better.

It's a sad state this team has fallen into. Firing Shurmur is a start, but it's past time he realizes the organization is rotting and wholesale changes are needed to out it back on the right track.

Putting a football guy in charge of football operations would be a good start.

Even Jones had sense to realize OMG Switzer-Gailey-Campo hell he was in and brought in Parcells.

I expect Mike Smith to be our coach next.
I hope they don't wait until the whole thing blows up before they make  
Blue21 : 11/8/2019 2:35 pm : link
a change. If it does they'll have to start over again, again. There is some young talent on this team you don't want to ruin.
RE: At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
Dnew15 : 11/8/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14669451 Britt in VA said:
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You just couldn't resist huh? :)
RE: RE: You wonder how long Mara is content to sit in the owners box  
Simms11 : 11/8/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14669463 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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and watch fans of other teams come in and take over his stadium and mock his team while he just assumes things are about to get better.

It's a sad state this team has fallen into. Firing Shurmur is a start, but it's past time he realizes the organization is rotting and wholesale changes are needed to out it back on the right track.

Putting a football guy in charge of football operations would be a good start.


Even Jones had sense to realize OMG Switzer-Gailey-Campo hell he was in and brought in Parcells.

I expect Mike Smith to be our coach next.


Switzer won a Super Bowl?! Additionally, do you think Garrett is some great coach? He’s got tremendous coordinators and assistants there and let’s them handle their side of the ball without too much meddling. He looks good.
RE: RE: At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
Britt in VA : 11/8/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14669498 Dnew15 said:
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You just couldn't resist huh? :)


I'm glad that those exhaustive arguments are over, that's for sure. In some ways, I'm happy for Manning to end his career as a Giant quietly, now.
I recall the princess chick in Clash of the Titans  
Jimmy Googs : 11/8/2019 3:16 pm : link
was smoking hot...
RE: RE: Not sure what anyone expects from bettcher  
Diver_Down : 11/8/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14669389 NoPeanutz said:
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He has the worst lbs in the league, no pass rushers, no FS, and 1 NFL CB. These are the results. You cant scheme around it.


One of these days, the Giants will go defense in the first round and get some playmakers.


I'm confused. I thought 2 of our 3 first round picks were defense?
I  
AcidTest : 11/8/2019 3:33 pm : link
always appreciate your candor.

I think the Jets will win. At this point, the rest of the season is just like the preseason in that we need to see the younger players for an extended period of time to better assess what we need in the offseason.
Tell us how you REALLY feel!  
TC : 11/8/2019 3:54 pm : link
"But the guy is a clown."
Can we make sure Mara reads this?  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 11/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
Turned into a shit franchise.
I want to hear "Mara must go"  
Mike in Prescott : 11/8/2019 5:03 pm : link
Chants in the stands. Eff Shurmur. Eff DG. Say it with me: "Mara must go!" That'll get his attention.
RE: Not sure what anyone expects from bettcher  
BillT : 11/8/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14669384 Touchdown maker said:
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He has the worst lbs in the league, no pass rushers, no FS, and 1 NFL CB. These are the results. You cant scheme around it.

Not to mention an offense with an offensive line that can't run black or pass block and QB with seven games of experience. But we should somehow be better than 2-7?
Wow...,  
MarkT : 11/8/2019 5:38 pm : link
I expected to find a preview here. I must have missed it.
RE: Wow...,  
Mike in Prescott : 11/8/2019 5:48 pm : link
the preview is in the link at the top of the thread.

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I expected to find a preview here. I must have missed it.
RE: Wow...,  
GIANTS128 : 11/8/2019 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14669723 MarkT said:
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I expected to find a preview here. I must have missed it.


Let me simplify the preview for you:

WE SUCK

Any questions see the site owner
At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
IIT : 11/8/2019 6:46 pm : link
All those assholes were feeling pretty vindicated after Tampa...

They sure are scarce now. The problems on this team are so obviously deeper and more myriad than the QB. Fucking ingrate simpletons.
Is Shurmur  
TheEvilLurker : 11/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
The mechanical owl?
RE: Is Shurmur  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14669764 TheEvilLurker said:
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The mechanical owl?



Not joking, I almost posted the picture of that stupid owl instead.
I cannot remember, if ever,  
section125 : 11/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
that I cared less about a Giants game. I sat through an ice storm to see the Giants play the Bears when Csonka was on the Giants with both teams at 5-10 or 5-11...I sat through a Seahawks game in Parcells 1st year, IIRC, when they were 3-12 or something in December.

I could care less after 56 years...even through the the late 60s and 70s I cared every game, every week.
I know that must have hurt  
Fort Mill Mike : 11/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
to write, but it's truth. As far as your game previews go, that was by far one of the best well crafted. Maybe it was the pain of reality that inspired you, but most good writers do their best work when they're in pain.

That said, that is some bitter medicine to taste. But taste it we must.
Pic  
TheEvilLurker : 11/8/2019 6:56 pm : link
Shurmur  
TheEvilLurker : 11/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
Christ  
dlauster : 11/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
Everyone here has pretty much summed up the way I feel. In some way I am thankful for living to see the Giants win 4 out of 5 Superbowls.

On the other hand, I don't think I'll live to see them have another winning season.....
RE: Definitely in the fire Shurmer club  
WillVAB : 11/8/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14669331 Tim in VA said:
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Guy is terrible.
I'm nowhere near the fire Gettleman club though. I may be in the minority but I think he has made mostly really good changes for this team and it has been a refreshing change from Reese. While it appears on the surface that we have a talent issue, to me the bad play is so widespread that it looks more like poor preparation and strategy. Piss poor coaching can make even very talented teams look like dogshit.

PS is the only major bad choice I see but I wouldn't be surprised to learn he was a Mara choice.


I agree. The OL is a work in progress and the LBs suck but you can see the core taking shape.

This coaching staff is making the team look less talented than it actually is. Hell Barkley is supposed to be a generational back and he’s looked very average.
...  
christian : 11/8/2019 8:49 pm : link
You can see the core of the offensive line taking shape? Are you kidding?
Big Apple  
XBRONX : 11/8/2019 9:53 pm : link
rotten core
RE: RE: Not sure what anyone expects from bettcher  
FStubbs : 11/8/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14669389 NoPeanutz said:
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In comment 14669384 Touchdown maker said:


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He has the worst lbs in the league, no pass rushers, no FS, and 1 NFL CB. These are the results. You cant scheme around it.


One of these days, the Giants will go defense in the first round and get some playmakers.


Two of our 3 first rounders this past year were on defense.
Eric  
Marty866b : 11/8/2019 10:19 pm : link
Great job here. Couldn't agree with you more. I haven't seen the Bengals play this year but I think there's a good chance we lose to both the Jets and Dolphins. The owners need to clean house and start a true rebuild.
RE: At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/8/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14669762 IIT said:
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All those assholes were feeling pretty vindicated after Tampa...

They sure are scarce now. The problems on this team are so obviously deeper and more myriad than the QB. Fucking ingrate simpletons.

And Eli was veteran enough to throw "innacurate" passes to take the incompletion and a "Sir Collapse Alot" safe short sacks or check downs that would have the jagaloons on bbi enraged at Eli. Panicked Shermur is throwing DJ8 to the wolves shaping him up to be a David Carr turnover machine.
The only real question is which team is worse  
trueblueinpw : 11/8/2019 11:45 pm : link
I’m honestly not sure which team sucks more.
RE: RE: At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
section125 : 11/9/2019 6:18 am : link
In comment 14669947 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14669762 IIT said:


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All those assholes were feeling pretty vindicated after Tampa...

They sure are scarce now. The problems on this team are so obviously deeper and more myriad than the QB. Fucking ingrate simpletons.


And Eli was veteran enough to throw "innacurate" passes to take the incompletion and a "Sir Collapse Alot" safe short sacks or check downs that would have the jagaloons on bbi enraged at Eli. Panicked Shermur is throwing DJ8 to the wolves shaping him up to be a David Carr turnover machine.


incoherent as usual
RE: ...  
WillVAB : 11/9/2019 7:06 am : link
In comment 14669827 christian said:
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You can see the core of the offensive line taking shape? Are you kidding?


Core of the team overall. The OL still needs a lot of work.
Wow, I was sad before reading the preview  
Gregorio : 11/9/2019 7:09 am : link
and now I'm depressed. This Sunday will be am massive battle of Losers. Ugh, I think I'll do some house chores.
RE: RE: RE: At least Manning isn't getting bashed for it anymore.  
NikkiMac : 11/9/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14669988 section125 said:
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In comment 14669947 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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In comment 14669762 IIT said:


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All those assholes were feeling pretty vindicated after Tampa...

They sure are scarce now. The problems on this team are so obviously deeper and more myriad than the QB. Fucking ingrate simpletons.


And Eli was veteran enough to throw "innacurate" passes to take the incompletion and a "Sir Collapse Alot" safe short sacks or check downs that would have the jagaloons on bbi enraged at Eli. Panicked Shermur is throwing DJ8 to the wolves shaping him up to be a David Carr turnover machine.



incoherent as usual


A bad coach and stubborn to boot what a bad mix !
It takes a very special person to be a head coach in the NFL  
NYRiese : 11/9/2019 9:48 am : link
A person with a variety of extraordinary talents and a keen, quick mind.

Someone who doesn't conflate patience with stubbornness and values attention to detail without wallowing in micro-management.

Do the Giants have such a head coach?
Kind of hoping  
giants_10_88 : 11/9/2019 5:36 pm : link
we lose this game by 21+ so Shurmur gets fired.
Although I think the Jets will win this game 27-17,  
GeofromNJ : 11/9/2019 6:49 pm : link
I don't agree with everything suggested by Eric. Engram is oft-injured, but when healthy he's a force. Is he injury prone? No more than the early Phil Simms. If Engram is traded, it's likely he'll find health and be lights out for his new team. The contract given to Sheperd was excessive, but was his propensity to concuss known at the time? I don't think so. As for Shurmur's inability to design an offense that exploits Barkley's talent, I presume Eric means the Giants need to use SB as a receiver rather than a runner. In college, against superior defenses, SB either got stuffed at the line of scrimmage or failed to break tackles when he passed the line of scrimmage. He doesn't seem to be a running back who can create when the holes are not there.

As for the Giants allowing 30 points and scoring only 17, this stat would be dramatically different if Jones wouldn't turn the ball over.
I'm Getting Too Old For This Shit  
Bernie : 11/9/2019 7:59 pm : link
How did this happen? Where did the optimism of youth in the mid 90's disappear to? The glory days of the old Giants Stadium and the promise of better days ahead. Not so much anymore. A once great game has been gutted by PC bullshit and soft, two hand touch schemes and rules. And our once great New York Football Giants have returned to being the laughing stock of the NFL. I'm sad.
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