Been a fan since the late 60's. I watched every minute of every game in the 70's....brutal! These past several years have been as bad or worse to watch. I semi checked out after the Lions game. Oct and we're done....again. I'll watch if I have nothing better to do and will turn it off if its another bad game. No longer giving the kind of commitment I used to. This team has earned the worst label I think a team can have....irrelevant. Anyone else feel this way? Or maybe I'm just a grumpy old man.
Even when they were finishing 7-9 and 8-8, I'd rarely ever miss a game live. Now, I'm usually busy enough where I can't justify sitting around and watching them be awful live.
Thank god for NFL Redzone, when I can sit and watch some football I'm not stuck watching the Giants when they're really bad.
DL play....should start being a strength.
DB should start playing better. Ballentine is much better then Haley.
We need a replacment for Bethea.
I hope Pulley makea better defensive calls....Halapio and Jones were doing a poor job
btw.. the 70's were worse by a lot.
This year unlike many others, I see growth and improvement.
They ll be good again, they ve had droughts before. To each their own, but glad they the losing hasnt impacted me, the way it has others.
DL play....should start being a strength.
DB should start playing better. Ballentine is much better then Haley.
We need a replacment for Bethea.
I hope Pulley makea better defensive calls....Halapio and Jones were doing a poor job
Is it really better than the 70's? At least the Giants had a defense back then.
It is depressing to be so wretched year in year out, but perhaps this is what will makes the good times (I pray there will be good times again) so rewarding
Look at my prior post
Look at my prior post
That s awesome
It's like a meal prepared from decent ingredients, but in an inappropriate recipe, then poorly cooked.
I pray they win but I am not confident.
This is a very young team and we all have to keep in mind that there only 7 players here from 2 years ago. That is insane roster turnover. The team will get better. Buffalo did the same thing 3 years ago.
The NFL has pretty much lost me as a fan, although I still sort of follow the GIANTS and the Bills.
It's like a meal prepared from decent ingredients, but in an inappropriate recipe, then poorly cooked.
Giants are like a burnt quiche.
1--- You had to believe in the coaching staff.
2-- You had to believe that 4 of teh 5 wins vs backup Qb's from last year was irrelevant.
3--- You had to believe that their end of season performance meant a damn thing.
4--- You had to believe that by replacing an awful wheeler with a bad Remmers and replacing a bad Pulley with a bad Halapio meant a damn thing. The RT and the center are 2nd and 3 most important OL positions.
5--- You had to believe in preaseason hype. For some reason there's a big deal thought of preaseason.
6--- you had to believe that the youngest team in football wouldn't have significant growing pains.
In summary you have a poorly coached team- and was extremely awful last year that didn't do a lot in FA and are the youngest team in the NFL - ofc you are going to suck. You hang in one game vs the Pats then bow a game vs Zona. That's what lousy coached youngest teams dooooo.
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DL play....should start being a strength.
DB should start playing better. Ballentine is much better then Haley.
We need a replacment for Bethea.
I hope Pulley makea better defensive calls....Halapio and Jones were doing a poor job
Is it really better than the 70's? At least the Giants had a defense back then.
Way worse - before free agency, it took forever to turn things around. Good teams stayed good for years. Now adays, 2 good draft/FA years and your back.
The NFL has pretty much lost me as a fan, although I still sort of follow the GIANTS and the Bills.
Wow, that s hard to understand.
I will likely be attending the Packer and Dolphin games.
I will watch the away games on TV. If I have time, I will watch live. If not, I definitely view via DVR. At this point, not budgeting time if theres something else to do during game time (which is mostly anything else lol).
I usually can get 9 in after the usual Sunday loss..
Im pretty numb at this point and I been a fan since 1968
I watch more college than anything else.. this Minnesota PS game is awesome
The NFL is basically unwatchable trash
I miss the 80's
How much more of the anger, name-calling and negativity on BBI can I take? Less and less. That's not a swipe at Ozarkman or anyone in particular. But on discussion threads, there are so many people who want the team to tank, so many people insulting each other, so many people who seem to think that this organization is worse than the Browns and the Washington team. Why do I want to read that?
For me, football isn't supposed to be a source of anger and bitterness. Life is short. There are enough awful things in the world. I'm not looking for football and this community of fans to add to the awfulness. So, I dunno.
My NHL team hasn't even been to the finals in my lifetime and that's roughly 5 times the amount of games played.
Being a Giants fan is EASY, even during a shit period like this.
My NHL team hasn't even been to the finals in my lifetime and that's roughly 5 times the amount of games played.
Being a Giants fan is EASY, even during a shit period like this.
I usually can get 9 in after the usual Sunday loss..
Im pretty numb at this point and I been a fan since 1968
I watch more college than anything else.. this Minnesota PS game is awesome
The NFL is basically unwatchable trash
I miss the 80's
The 80's were it and it will never be same again. The Giants are no longer
How much more of the anger, name-calling and negativity on BBI can I take? Less and less. That's not a swipe at Ozarkman or anyone in particular. But on discussion threads, there are so many people who want the team to tank, so many people insulting each other, so many people who seem to think that this organization is worse than the Browns and the Washington team. Why do I want to read that?
For me, football isn't supposed to be a source of anger and bitterness. Life is short. There are enough awful things in the world. I'm not looking for football and this community of fans to add to the awfulness. So, I dunno.
But Dane, there's been unconscionable shit here all the time. Before the team really stank to high heaven, guys would be snarky, demeaning, insulting, all kinds of puerile or worse behavior, and sometimes administered by some of our better posters, in terms of football acumen.
It's the internet, the anonymity, the ego and testosterone mingled with games of one upsmanship on many sides.
I seriously don't think that's changed all that much during the maybe 15 years I've been reading and actively posting here.
You really think it's gotten worse? I don't see it so much.
You really think it's gotten worse? I don't see it so much.
Game threads were always very negative, people wanting players cut and coaches fired every time the other team made a play. It's the discussion threads that seem worse to me.
How much more of the anger, name-calling and negativity on BBI can I take? Less and less. That's not a swipe at Ozarkman or anyone in particular. But on discussion threads, there are so many people who want the team to tank, so many people insulting each other, so many people who seem to think that this organization is worse than the Browns and the Washington team. Why do I want to read that?
For me, football isn't supposed to be a source of anger and bitterness. Life is short. There are enough awful things in the world. I'm not looking for football and this community of fans to add to the awfulness. So, I dunno.
Great Dane 100%
. This is not directed to any particular poster, but I ve often found it extremely annoying when Fans come to an NFL forum as Giants fans, to share that they really arent interested enough to watch the Giants or the NFL anymore.
FINE, dont watch, there s no law or consequences for not watching.
But why do you bring that negativity to a site where guys like Dane and myself, who have always understood it s just a hobby, something we enjoy come to read about the team.
Seems weird, you dont really care anymore, but take time to come to the Internet, to a site, dedicated to the thing you dont care about
Weird.
No, I didn't watch because they weren't winning enough. You see, in this family we only keep watching if the team is winning, we only are fans of teams when they are good.
I know there's a segment of the fanbase that feels we should be angry all the time, as that somehow motivates Mara.
As a Giants/Mets/Islanders/Knicks fan, I've rooted for a lot of bad teams and still managed to have fun.
As for BBI, this site has always been nasty as shit. I have 10-year account and was lurking at least five years before that.
Eric decides what this community will be, and so, you just have to have fun with the twats.
Very accurate. LOL never thought of it that way but that's accurate. Right now it seems we'll never see them winning a game again.
No, I didn't watch because they weren't winning enough. You see, in this family we only keep watching if the team is winning, we only are fans of teams when they are good.
Description of of lot of Patriot fans.
You can call me whatever names you want but I insist there is literally No Upside to the Giants winning any game the rest of the year.
As some have mentioned, a loss was a downer for a week, now its maybe 30 minutes. And even though I always root for a win while the game is on, after a loss I rationalize that its good in the long run draft position, etc.
As far as BBI, I lost track of when I first joined, but it was several years before the institution of user registration. And yes, it has always been nasty, but there were always some immensely interesting and entertaining threads, but those are gone. In light of the present political nightmare, that's probably a good thing, but its still something missing. Never understood the reason for the nastiness of some posters, but it is in fact a function of the internet.
I used to be on BBI for hours every day with multiple posts daily, even in the off season. Now I rarely visit and almost never post . Giants sucking, BBI nastiness and blandness (its not easy to achieve both), age? Probably all the above, but the Giants are a tradition in our family and I will watch every game.
This bad stretch theyve had? Thats the river. Everything youve ever watched, everything that made you so happy or sad? Thats the sea. This sucks now but its almost saying the reason you endure the bad is to enjoy the good.
That was the river... - ( New Window )
What a difference from today. No flag on every other play, with the officials often huddling first. No replay on every third play with more standing around by the players. The teams ran a play, went back into the huddle and ran the next play within thirty seconds. There was a flow.
No super slow motion replays of a "catch" by a receiver to see if the ball had begun to move in his hands before his knee touched down. Pass interference was the weakest part of the game then and it's still the weakest part, except that it stops the game while they review it now.
Why replay. The bad calls against you equaled out the bad calls in favor.
"Taunting" penalties? Two teams can slug it out for fifty five minutes on the clock only to have the game decided on whether one play "taunted" the other. Roughing the quarterback called if a DE gives the QB a light two handed shove in the back after the ball is gone?
But the worst part is the hardest to fix. Much less hard hitting, and penalties called on hits that would have been celebrated in 1990.
Not much you can do about that except maybe if someone came up with better protective gear then basically the same stuff you've been using for fifty years.
And confirm by watching their shitty play, the players I want cut my mini camp.
Oh I start with having the project(s) loosely set up, devoting commercials only to the kitchen. Gradually that devolves into full time cooking with listening to the game only since the kitchen space is open to the living room. If I hear something good happening, I step back into the LR to watch.
Later today, it will be 2 dishes: French onion soup and prepping a large dish of eggplant parmesan. The assembly of the eggplant parma has to wait for the consumption of the Pompano Morrocan style later this evening that currently occupies the large baking dish. The prep work (slicing eggplants, frying eggplant slices, grating cheese, making tomato sauce) can commence anytime.
Onion soup requires a shitload of onions to be thinly sliced and then caramelized and reduced in volume in a large pot. Over a small flame, it doesn't require too much attention while it caramelizes, but only the rather infrequent stirring and scraping of the bottom of the pot.
Each week I hope to see improvement out of the young players so that there is some hope going into next year. This team just doesnt have that. Barkley is Barkley, Jones makes some wow plays but seems to be required by law to turn it over 3 times every game. Overall, the team is poorly built and poorly coached so they are frustrating to watch. But I will watch anyway and hope for something to miraculously improve.
One poster above said something about the losing not being tolerated for long. That is the worst part of this for me. This organization does accept and tolerate losing. The focus is on people, not performance. They evaluate Dave and Pat and decide if they are the right fit. They dont look at wins and losses and ask if they are the best people for the job. That is more frustrating than the performances on the field.
But I will watch this crap show they roll out there today hoping for no particular reason that there are signs of life.
[quote] until the cows come home... [/quote
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