GMs move not working out so far.

You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time

Pugh and Richburg have top 5 contracts for their respective positions to play slightly above average, both were put on IR last year. I’ll take Hernandez over Pugh any day, cheaper and better in the run game.

The trade was a massive success.

Zeitler is our best offensive lineman this year and one of two men worth keeping on the line for next season (Hernandez and Zeitler)

We unloaded vernons insane contract and odells and got back peppers. So we saved money right there and got a nice player.

The trade got us an extra pick which turned into dexter Lawrence who has been the best or second best 0 tech in the nfl. One of the best run stuffing DTs and a shockingly high pass rate success.

I suggest you do some more research before starting threads calling out the GM

We can question some of his FA signings....but hus trades and drafts have worked out.

In comment 14670623 LauderdaleMatty said:

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You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time

I’d say Jamon brown played at an equal if not higher lever

Of the 4 players involved in the trade. Saying that the most compensation was tied to Beckham and he’s laying an egg, we definitely got the better of it.

Keep in mind there is massive cap benefits for the next couple years because we made this trade also. Next year we should be able to add 3 FA starters for the cap space we would have had to delegate to Beckham.

Not paying Landon Collins $14 m per year was a good non-move.

I understand Zeitler is banged up, but Jamon Brown the last 8 games of 2018 was a far superior run blocker and arguably pass protector.

The Beckham side of the trade looks promising, the Vernon side looks like a wash. For the money, cutting Vernon and signing Brown might have been the better investment.

I didn't expect much from a small school rookie and I'm sure the Giants didn't expect to have him play this many snaps. I guess flash must mean a guy getting absolutely destroyed and targeted by every team he plays against. He is literally getting run over all game.

The guy was clearing lanes in the run game but he was always letting very simple stunts lead to free hits on Eli...on the regular. I haven’t seen that from Zeitler, nor have I seen the ability to move dt’s off the ball like Jamon brown did. But Zeitler is also better in space which opens up our screen game, his climbs to the second level are better as well. I would pay the extra money for Zeitler just because I believe with a better rt and c his play will be much better. Go read Sy’s reviews of Jamon Brown last year.

On another note, what about signing Scherff to play RT, too much of a risk?

I think Richburg would have turned out to be a good signing. He appears to have developed into a decent Center.

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I think Richburg would have turned out to be a good signing. He appears to have developed into a decent Center.

I never really got why it went so south for him here

and say Gettleman's drafts and trades have worked out? 40 of the players on this roster are his. Time to stop blaming Reese for this shitshow. it's Gettleman's now.

Spot on! This is Gettleman's team and this one may be the worst one yet and that says a lot.

In comment 14670623 LauderdaleMatty said:

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You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time

I hear from a lot of sources this guy is playing well. What I don't hear is this guys name during a game. Zeitler's certainly not having a good year but I do blame that on being one of the most poorly coached O-Lines in the league.

and I think we all know which team was which. I mean, honestly look no further than the ages of the players involved.

Giants - Zeitler (29), Peppers (23), Lawrence (21), Xman (22)

Browns - Vernon (29), OBJ (27)

is the perception that Flowers is playing much better so far??

If he's playing for us the same way he has so far, we're calling him hot garbage. Somehow when he does it for a different team, it is a positive?

Let me guess, Eli Apple is doing great too?

In comment 14670816 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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is the perception that Flowers is playing much better so far?? If he's playing for us the same way he has so far, we're calling him hot garbage. Somehow when he does it for a different team, it is a positive? Let me guess, Eli Apple is doing great too?

which also goes with Richburg(run out of town on a rail by BBI faithful), Pugh(on the very next rail), Flowers(couldn't be tied to the rail as he kept whiffing).

If you think that DG whiffed on the Cleveland trades, then you really should not be starting threads like this.

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In comment 14670623 LauderdaleMatty said: Quote: You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time I’d say Jamon brown played at an equal if not higher lever

You would be the only one. Agree to disagree I guess bit that take seems to just be anti DG. This thread premise leaving out Dex L is beyond stupid

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In comment 14670623 LauderdaleMatty said: I have not mentioned Lawrence what are you talking about Quote: You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time I hear from a lot of sources this guy is playing well. What I don't hear is this guys name during a game. Zeitler's certainly not having a good year but I do blame that on being one of the most poorly coached O-Lines in the league.

In comment 14670623 LauderdaleMatty said:

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You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time

nI have not mentioned lawrence what are you talking about?

In comment 14670627 Tuckrule said:

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The trade was a massive success. Zeitler is our best offensive lineman this year and one of two men worth keeping on the line for next season (Hernandez and Zeitler) We unloaded vernons insane contract and odells and got back peppers. So we saved money right there and got a nice player. The trade got us an extra pick which turned into dexter Lawrence who has been the best or second best 0 tech in the nfl. One of the best run stuffing DTs and a shockingly high pass rate success. I suggest you do some more research before starting threads calling out the GM

No its not its an observation I'm asking opinions on and its not stupid don't judge people you don't know.

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In comment 14670627 Tuckrule said: Quote: The trade was a massive success. Look at Zeitler today and you no what i'm talking about barley 14 rushes for 1 yard the line stinks like I said. Zeitler is our best offensive lineman this year and one of two men worth keeping on the line for next season (Hernandez and Zeitler) We unloaded vernons insane contract and odells and got back peppers. So we saved money right there and got a nice player. The trade got us an extra pick which turned into dexter Lawrence who has been the best or second best 0 tech in the nfl. One of the best run stuffing DTs and a shockingly high pass rate success. I suggest you do some more research before starting threads calling out the GM No its not its an observation I'm asking opinions on and its not stupid don't judge people you don't know.

In comment 14670623 LauderdaleMatty said:
[quote] You leave him out on purpose? Zeitler injured is much better than anyone theyve had at RG in a long time [I /quote] I did not but look at Barley today 14 rushes for 1 yard that's pathetic

In comment 14670626 aGiantGuy said:

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Pugh and Richburg have top 5 contracts for their respective positions to play slightly above average, both were put on IR last year. I’ll take Hernandez over Pugh any day, cheaper and better in the run game.

Why after what I am seeing right now barley 14 rushes 1 yard thats pathetic

In comment 14670739 WillieYoung said:

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and say Gettleman's drafts and trades have worked out? 40 of the players on this roster are his. Time to stop blaming Reese for this shitshow. it's Gettleman's now.

Because it leaves open the misguided hope that all you need is a new coach and voila, everything's great again.

Outcomes despite glaring, repeated evidence that system plays it's part in that.

Since Macadoo I've been ranting about how this Packers lite system is very hard on OL development.

And we are still running the same shit with regards to: denying the trend about line ru action supporting pass outcomes and therefore helping OL development.

That said, no free safeties on the roster and no outstanding athletes at ilb either.

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Unless you think there is a better QB to be had but overall fuck getting the one pass rusher or one Left Tackle. Both teams NEED playerSSSSSSS.

****ANd what is most obvious both need OFENSIVE LINEMEN -- plural - they need MULTIPLE. SO either get in FA or draft or both.

In comment 14670627 Tuckrule said:

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The trade was a massive success. Zeitler is our best offensive lineman this year and one of two men worth keeping on the line for next season (Hernandez and Zeitler) We unloaded vernons insane contract and odells and got back peppers. So we saved money right there and got a nice player. The trade got us an extra pick which turned into dexter Lawrence who has been the best or second best 0 tech in the nfl. One of the best run stuffing DTs and a shockingly high pass rate success. But what happened today where was Zeitler or the whole O-line it stinks and Geetleman is responsible don't tell me to not post the truth. I suggest you do some more research before starting threads calling out the GM