I don’t watch a ton of college football, but I can say I was very impressed with Joe Burrow yesterday - I figure he is QB1.
We often heard that 2018 & 2020 were going to be elite QB classes, aside from Lamar Jackson, that has not been the case for 2018 thus far.
It seems like the hype for Tua has decreased & I increasingly wonder if he can stay healthy. I’ve rarely heard Justin Herbert & Jake Fromm referenced in the 2020 QB talk this year - have they regressed?
Knowing what we know of Jones (pros & cons), how does he stack up against these QB’s.
I've always felt the best indicator of college QBs success in the NFL is the situation he's entering.
Teams pick near the top of the draft for 2 reasons; they are on the rise or bottoming out. You take Rosen, Mayfield, or Darnold and you put them on a good team like Baltimore and they are better. You take Mahomes and put him on the Bears, he's many degrees less effective.
I think Jones would be a first round grade this year. Maybe not a top 10 player, but he'd get picked. He can do all the things you need in this easier world for a QB.
I happen to agree w these rankings however and would rather any of those three over jones. Herbert and jones would be the closest for me.
I happen to agree w these rankings however and would rather any of those three over jones. Herbert and jones would be the closest for me.
That's pretty damning. Eason is in the mix there too imo.
I happen to agree w these rankings however and would rather any of those three over jones. Herbert and jones would be the closest for me.
I think he’d be 2nd behind Burrow. Lots of questions about Tua and he’s a better thrower than Herbert.
Hype might mean something to us amateurs but not to NFL talent evaluators as last year showed.
Daniel Jones had plenty of hype coming into his junior season, more hype than Burrow even. Burrow is setting the stage on fire with his play and also because he is leading an undefeated SEC team. The notion that Danny Jones was under the radar is laughable. You can give Burrow credit without trashing Jones.
We honestly have no idea how these guys will translate into the NFL.
How many NFL QB's lost out at Texas Tech?
The 2017 QB class was build on a lot of hype before the college season and unlike this year, they didn't really perform on the field. The only guy I wanted there was Mayfield and I'd say him and Darnold were the only guys worthy of top 15 picks.
no way!!
Tua would be the #1 prospect if he could stay healthy. Injury is part of the game tho. But if Tua was healthy yesterday, he wouldve ran the ball alot more.
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couldn't beat-out Haskins for a starting spot in college.
How many NFL QB's lost out at Texas Tech?
I can only think of Webb and Mayfield, who both lost-out to the current NFL MVP. Webb is not an NFL player and Mayfield is very much a work in progress.
I don't know, given that the RPO has become the new wave in both college and the NFL, I'd say that both of those QB's are working it extremely well. Jones, looks the part at times, and also looks very much like a rookie.
It was slammed by media talkies, not by the real life scouts and execs. This is the distinction that far too many fail to recognize year after year.
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Coming out of college there is 0 chance jones would have the hype/regard any of those 3 qbs will have. Maybe herbert. Remember this was a universally slammed pick. Doesnt make it right but thats what happened.
It was slammed by media talkies, not by the real life scouts and execs. This is the distinction that far too many fail to recognize year after year.
We could have taken Allen, let Manning play our his year and taken one of the 4 or 5 qb's coming out this year who would start immediately. We'd have been set up for 2020 with our edge rusher, starting qb and shopping money. Instead, we went Jones, paid Manning to sit around this year, and traded two more picks for the opportunity to talk to Williams.
There is a lot of pressure to give Williams whatever he wants and making our #1 this year.
I wouldn't touch Tua in round one. He is too fragile and I get the sense his ceiling may be college football.
Herbert is having a terrific year. He's really bounced back after a piss poor 2018. Oddly, he's not running as much this year as year's past. Seems focused on trusting his pocket more. Not sure how good he is from the neck up. Could be very good or could be Brock Osweiler, part 2.
Fromm is a solid second or third round prospect. I could see him being very dependable in the right environment.
Burrow has been sensational. But I really think Joe Brady deserves enormous credit for what we are seeing. He's brought a 1970s offense into the modern age. And integrated a program to really exploit some great receiving talent. I like Burrow's athleticism the most, but not ready to crown him this can't miss guy...yet.