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Did Burrow jump to the top an expected to be taken

superspynyg : 11/10/2019 9:03 am
With his performance yesterday va BAMA? Or is Tua still the # 1 guy?

Did not see the game as I was tailgating at Duke. But I heard he looked great. Tua has a int and a fumble. Both def are legit.
Thought he was already the top QB prospect  
BillT : 11/10/2019 9:09 am : link
Not that I’m any expert but that’s been out there for a while.
Burrow  
Jimmy Googs : 11/10/2019 9:10 am : link
is the toast of the town...and the Downtown Athletic Club.
I had Burrow before  
giants_10_88 : 11/10/2019 9:12 am : link
Tua before this game. This is just the icining on the cake for Burrow.
Burrow  
Archer : 11/10/2019 9:18 am : link
Tua was hurt but still looked great
They both look like they will be excellent pros
Burrow is the leader for the Heismann
As for pro potential
Who goes first will be based upon scheme and individual preference

Hebert is also intriguing, he makes some crazy plays
He is big fast with a big arm

There are at least 5 other good QBs in the draft

The draft will be very interesting
RE: Burrow  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14670688 Archer said:
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Tua was hurt but still looked great
They both look like they will be excellent pros
Burrow is the leader for the Heismann
As for pro potential
Who goes first will be based upon scheme and individual preference

Hebert is also intriguing, he makes some crazy plays
He is big fast with a big arm

There are at least 5 other good QBs in the draft

The draft will be very interesting


You think Tua looked great?
Burrow > Tua  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/10/2019 9:38 am : link
even prior to yesterday.
Not at all sold on Tua, especially after yesterday  
PatersonPlank : 11/10/2019 9:42 am : link
I don't think he looked "great". Burrow completely outplayed him, and is the #1 QB in this draft.
RE: Not at all sold on Tua, especially after yesterday  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 9:49 am : link
In comment 14670719 PatersonPlank said:
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I don't think he looked "great". Burrow completely outplayed him, and is the #1 QB in this draft.


I'm not sure he was even good. He just barely completed over 52% of his passes. He had 2 turnovers. Both were really bad. Also it seemed basically all of his completions were to wide open WRs.

Burrow has been much more impressive this season and he was really awesome yesterday.
I think Herbert and Eason are the top pro prospects, but of course  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/10/2019 9:53 am : link
they don't play for the top 2 teams in the country so fans and the media look over them.
A ton of good QBs next year.  
since1925 : 11/10/2019 9:54 am : link
Looks like a bumper crop.
RE: I think Herbert and Eason are the top pro prospects, but of course  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 10:06 am : link
In comment 14670728 Zeke's Alibi said:
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they don't play for the top 2 teams in the country so fans and the media look over them.


I don't think it has anything to do with the top teams. How often do the top 2 QBs come from the top schools? I just don't think those guys are better prospects than Burrow & Tua.

Here are the top 2 QBs in the last 10 drafts. How many of these teams were ranked in the top 2 in the players final season?

Murray - Oklahoma
Jones - Duke

Mayfield - Oklahoma
Darnold - USC

Trubisky - UNC
Mahomes - Texas Tech

Goff - Cal
Wentz - ND State

Winston - FSU
Mariota - Oregon

Bortles - UCF
Manziel - Texas A&M

EJ Manuel - FSU
Geno Smith - WVU

Luck - Stanford
Bob - Baylor

Newton - Auburn
Locker - Washington

Bradford - Oklahoma
Tebow - Florida

I was always X over Tua  
UConn4523 : 11/10/2019 10:15 am : link
just didn’t know who X was but it’s very clear to be Burrow now. Tua terrifies me, just constantly hurt and that isn’t going to get better in the NFL with less practice and getting hit more.
If D.G is the ultimate scout type of GM  
90.Cal : 11/10/2019 10:37 am : link
He should have been at last night's game.
RE: If D.G is the ultimate scout type of GM  
section125 : 11/10/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14670771 90.Cal said:
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He should have been at last night's game.


For what reason? He can get game film .
RE: RE: I think Herbert and Eason are the top pro prospects, but of course  
Mike in NJ : 11/10/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14670741 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14670728 Zeke's Alibi said:


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they don't play for the top 2 teams in the country so fans and the media look over them.



I don't think it has anything to do with the top teams. How often do the top 2 QBs come from the top schools? I just don't think those guys are better prospects than Burrow & Tua.

Here are the top 2 QBs in the last 10 drafts. How many of these teams were ranked in the top 2 in the players final season?

Murray - Oklahoma
Jones - Duke

Mayfield - Oklahoma
Darnold - USC

Trubisky - UNC
Mahomes - Texas Tech

Goff - Cal
Wentz - ND State

Winston - FSU
Mariota - Oregon

Bortles - UCF
Manziel - Texas A&M

EJ Manuel - FSU
Geno Smith - WVU

Luck - Stanford
Bob - Baylor

Newton - Auburn
Locker - Washington

Bradford - Oklahoma
Tebow - Florida


The thing that stands out most on that list is how few of those guys ended up actually being good
Tua didn't play a greta game?  
giantstock : 11/10/2019 10:50 am : link
ALabama put up 34 poins on the number 2 ranked team in the country. It appeared he was w bit rusty early, didn't it? I only a heard bits and pieces on the radio and watched just a fw minutes. But some are suggesting he didn't play that well even though he helped put up 41 points? The QB is the most important position on teh field.

That 1st turnover was a freak. Secondly I heard on the radio they said he couldn't scramble. and the highlights I saw the poster who said the ALabama WR's were wide open all game is FOS unless he missed open WR's all game? I'm not arguing overall but he throw for 418 years with 4 td's and one int vs the number 2 team in the country - and yet he didn't play great? I guess you count his two to's - but can't rust be accounted for that? Nor arguing here- just asking other than the 1 poster's comments unless there was more Tua just missed wide open guys.
Burrow looked really good  
GIANTS128 : 11/10/2019 10:55 am : link
But damn does Tua throw a sweet deep ball.
I'm not convinced  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 11/10/2019 10:58 am : link
Tua will even be one of the top 2 QBs off the board.
Agree with Rick  
Marty866b : 11/10/2019 11:00 am : link
I don't believe Tua was going number one and has nothing to do with yesterday's game.
RE: Tua didn't play a greta game?  
riceneggs : 11/10/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14670783 giantstock said:
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ALabama put up 34 poins on the number 2 ranked team in the country. It appeared he was w bit rusty early, didn't it? I only a heard bits and pieces on the radio and watched just a fw minutes. But some are suggesting he didn't play that well even though he helped put up 41 points? The QB is the most important position on teh field.

That 1st turnover was a freak. Secondly I heard on the radio they said he couldn't scramble. and the highlights I saw the poster who said the ALabama WR's were wide open all game is FOS unless he missed open WR's all game? I'm not arguing overall but he throw for 418 years with 4 td's and one int vs the number 2 team in the country - and yet he didn't play great? I guess you count his two to's - but can't rust be accounted for that? Nor arguing here- just asking other than the 1 poster's comments unless there was more Tua just missed wide open guys.


I watched the game. Tua had a grade "A" game. he hadn't practiced in 20+ days. It was obvious that his ankle wasn't completely healed, as he limped most of the game.

1st fumble was a fluke
Interception was bad. Just didnt read the defense.

There were plenty of occasions where he could have ran for 5, 10 yards but the ankle wouldnt allow it

to me, he has A+ accuracy and was putting the ball right where it needed to be 98% of the time.

If we are in a position to take him in the draft, i'd consider it. I think he is more talented than Jones and has more upside.

Dude just can't stay healthy
Is anybody questioning  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/10/2019 11:04 am : link
why he could not beat out Haskins at Ohio State?

The SEC West has been down the last few years. A few years ago you had 4 teams from West that were in the top 10 with strong defenses. This is not a very good Bama D.

I think among the QB's more needs to be seen in the Conf. Champ. games and playoffs and off course the pre-draft work.

Tua really throws a nice deep ball.

RE: I'm not convinced  
riceneggs : 11/10/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14670788 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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Tua will even be one of the top 2 QBs off the board.


stop playing yaself. he's been the top QB for a couple years. he misses some time and folks forget how good he is
Question about Burrow/LSU's offense  
widmerseyebrow : 11/10/2019 11:07 am : link
I noticed they do that thing where the entire offense looks to the sideline before the snap. Are the coaches essentially doing his pre-snap read for him and relaying in the adjustment from there?
RE: Question about Burrow/LSU's offense  
riceneggs : 11/10/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14670798 widmerseyebrow said:
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I noticed they do that thing where the entire offense looks to the sideline before the snap. Are the coaches essentially doing his pre-snap read for him and relaying in the adjustment from there?


yes
I meant bama put up 34 offensively  
giantstock : 11/10/2019 11:23 am : link
nm
Burrow was great yesterday...  
Pete in CO : 11/10/2019 12:04 pm : link
...and Tua looked rusty and injured at times. Yet he still put up comparable stats to Burrow, and had a TON of uncharacteristic drops through the game. I don't think it's so easy to say Burrow is #1 in CFB right now. Though he might be...
'Bama defense was nowhere near dominant. Could be that LSU offense was just better...but not sure. 'Bama had some really bad breakdowns that just made you scratch your head.
I find it crazy that Tua is starting to get beaten up behind that OL, but it's happening. Looks like 'Bama took mobility out of the game script for Tua, while Burrow was allowed to run. That, IMO, was the biggest difference of the game
RE: If D.G is the ultimate scout type of GM  
Platos : 11/10/2019 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14670771 90.Cal said:
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He should have been at last night's game.


nose bleeds cost 600 lol
They’re both excellent  
jeff57 : 11/10/2019 12:33 pm : link
Tua was way less than 100% and still had a good game.
Tua had some beautiful splash plays  
BSIMatt : 11/10/2019 1:39 pm : link
And put up a ton of yards,but overall watching the game he was definitely inconsistent. Was very surprised the amount of times LSU covered Jeudy with a safety...that’s a huge, huge mismatch especially after Vincent and Jacoby Stevens exited and LSU had a backup safety guarding him in the red zone.

Was also very impressed with the play of both running backs in that game, they played outstanding as runners and receivers.
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