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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2019 4:00 pm
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RE: jlukes is absolutely right. Shurmer has not a clue. today i have gone  
NorthCountryGiantsFan : 11/10/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14672500 plato said:
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from a defender to a convert that shurmer is not the head coach for the giants. i think you wait till end of season, and then fire him and shove the fucking siren up the jets ass


I, too, am off the train. This whole staff sucks, and I'm finally over it.
And here comes the excuses  
micky : 11/10/2019 4:20 pm : link
Wash, rinse, repeat
RE: We still  
darren in pdx : 11/10/2019 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14672546 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Got to play the Eagles twice..


LOL. Oh jeez.
I was a  
Photoguy : 11/10/2019 4:21 pm : link
Shurmur supporter, but the more I see, the less I like. I hate the idea of changing coaching staffs so quickly, but it has to be done.
Question:  
mrvax : 11/10/2019 4:21 pm : link
I missed most of the game. I see that Solder was replaced, any other Oline guys? Thanks.
No coach could win  
oldutican : 11/10/2019 4:21 pm : link
with team the Giants put on field today. Not defending Schurmer, but 3 backups on line just made it impossible.
The people blaming Shurmur miss the boat  
Go Terps : 11/10/2019 4:21 pm : link
All of them have to go; all that should be left is ownership.
Miami and Washington  
jeff57 : 11/10/2019 4:21 pm : link
Only possible wins left.
.  
GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 4:22 pm : link
That O-line is PURE Gettleman. He needs to go
RE: The people blaming Shurmur miss the boat  
lax counsel : 11/10/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14672588 Go Terps said:
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All of them have to go; all that should be left is ownership.


Truer words have never been spoken.
O'Hara ON THE POST GAME  
NewBlue : 11/10/2019 4:22 pm : link
Giving the Giants a break because of our replacements on the OL....Tell me how were we with the starters intact?
RE: No coach could win  
jlukes : 11/10/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14672587 oldutican said:
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with team the Giants put on field today. Not defending Schurmer, but 3 backups on line just made it impossible.


A competent coach adjusts and moves the pocket for his young, mobile QB.

My  
AcidTest : 11/10/2019 4:23 pm : link
thoughts:

I agree we should either IR Barkley or sit him until next season. We're just risking further injury to him at this point, and the season has long since been over.

As bad as the clock management was, mindlessly running Barkley into the line on first and second down, especially behind a makeshift OL, was even dumber. That put is into a lot of second and third and long situations with receivers who can't separate. The play calling was awful.
on the plus side  
fkap : 11/10/2019 4:24 pm : link
falcons and jets both now tie us with 2 wins. we probably won't get to pick one, but the chances of getting close are getting better.

please don't fire anyone til we get # 2 or 3 locked up. An interim might be semi-competent and we could accidentally win a game or 2
Completely out coached by a lousy coach  
PatersonPlank : 11/10/2019 4:25 pm : link
Shurmur sucks. No way the Jets have better talent than us. We came out so horribly, completely out motivated and schemed. All on the coach
The idea that ANYONE is getting fired after this game...  
EricJ : 11/10/2019 4:25 pm : link
is absolutely COMICAL.

RE: Show some patience. You need at least 6 years  
D_Giants : 11/10/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14672478 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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To rebuild a football team.


49ers are the example of how to turn a franchise around.
RE: jlukes is absolutely right. Shurmer has not a clue. today i have gone  
sopogmen4246 : 11/10/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14672500 plato said:
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from a defender to a convert that shurmer is not the head coach for the giants. i think you wait till end of season, and then fire him and shove the fucking siren up the jets ass
espicially when the left tackle is struggling and you give him no tight end help or no help at all shurmur suck ass
Miss me?  
HomerJones45 : 11/10/2019 4:27 pm : link
Giants need to bench Daniel Jones  
ColHowPepper : 11/10/2019 4:28 pm : link
not because he's bad, he's the only semblance of an offense in a shitshow OL and backfield, and some #2 or 3 WRs.

They need to bench him to prevent him from getting killed and destroying his confidence, for good
RE: RE: Daniel Jones  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14672494 Bramton1 said:
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Please, dont anyone criticize Daniel Jones again, at least not until Shurmer and his play calling, the kicker, the offensive line and the defense get fixed!!

Daniel Jones, along with a couple of other players who show up every week and perform well, are the only gamers on the team.



Jones deserves to be criticized for his lack of ball security, just as much as he should be praised for the four touchdown passes.


Ehhh Idk about that. Barkley should be criticized for his pathetic pass blocking. If he even made a decent block than DJ has no fumbles or turnovers today.
RE: RE: The people blaming Shurmur miss the boat  
latichever : 11/10/2019 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14672602 lax counsel said:
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In comment 14672588 Go Terps said:


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All of them have to go; all that should be left is ownership.



Truer words have never been spoken.


Im not sure about the ownership. Rozelle forced the feuding Maras to hire Geoege Young
RE: Miss me?  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14672630 HomerJones45 said:
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No. We sucked with Coughlin too.
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GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 4:30 pm : link
And as usual his presser is annoyingly arrogant
Clean sweep  
AcesUp : 11/10/2019 4:30 pm : link
They need to flush the whole thing. 2017 offseason is just as much to blame for why the Giants are doing donuts at the bottom of the standings as Shurmur is.
RE: RE: Miss me?  
HomerJones45 : 11/10/2019 4:30 pm : link
In comment 14672643 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 14672630 HomerJones45 said:


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No. We sucked with Coughlin too.
LOL Yes, this is much better.
I am confusion  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/10/2019 4:30 pm : link
Why Shumur sit Barkley when he play well, but keeps playing Barkley when even Gase knows hes not playing well? Forum explains!
*2018  
AcesUp : 11/10/2019 4:30 pm : link
They all blend together after awhile.
Here are the cold depressing facts for giants fans  
Giantfan21 : 11/10/2019 4:31 pm : link
Who picked gettleman ans shurmur as GM and HC > the answer is john mara.

Who is going to pick the next Gm and HC when both of these losers get fired ? the answer is john mara .

As long as hes making the decisions there is no hope. He has no idea what hes doing. SO yeah fire shurmur , fire gettleman but it aint going to get better when they are gone because MARA is going to fuck up the next big decisions to make
Shurmur outcoached by Gase  
RUNYG : 11/10/2019 4:31 pm : link
Let that sink in..
RE: RE: No coach could win  
Blue21 : 11/10/2019 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14672610 jlukes said:
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In comment 14672587 oldutican said:


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with team the Giants put on field today. Not defending Schurmer, but 3 backups on line just made it impossible.



A competent coach adjusts and moves the pocket for his young, mobile QB.


Yes today and at least three games ago I have been screaming this. He lets the opposing D pin their ears back every play.
I'm feeling pretty smart right now  
TJ : 11/10/2019 4:33 pm : link
I decided to spend a few hours listening to spotify and doing some maintenance in the tool shed instead of watching the game. Because of that I'm a happy man with a house full of sharp and lubricated tools when by all rights I should be an angry and disgusted fan.

I think I've already decided how I'll spend the rest of this season.
Wen fired Allie Sherman  
steve in maryland : 11/10/2019 4:35 pm : link
after he lost to the Jets in preseason. Its time to do the same to Shurmer. He's is Handely company.
Why isn't Coughlin coaching now, Gene?  
Greg from LI : 11/10/2019 4:35 pm : link
You told us all he'd have his pick of jobs 15 mins after being fired.
RE: I'm feeling pretty smart right now  
RDJR : 11/10/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14672684 TJ said:
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I decided to spend a few hours listening to spotify and doing some maintenance in the tool shed instead of watching the game. Because of that I'm a happy man with a house full of sharp and lubricated tools when by all rights I should be an angry and disgusted fan.

I think I've already decided how I'll spend the rest of this season.


But you take time to come post here? Strange.
RE: Giants need to bench Daniel Jones  
alb345Tx : 11/10/2019 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14672635 ColHowPepper said:
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not because he's bad, he's the only semblance of an offense in a shitshow OL and backfield, and some #2 or 3 WRs.

They need to bench him to prevent him from getting killed and destroying his confidence, for good


For the sake of his career, might be a good move. Then trade him for good value and get one of next year's hot shots or find someone who can fix the team.
This was the worst  
PhilD : 11/10/2019 4:37 pm : link
Offensive line play I have ever seen. Why draft a Barkley and Jones if you have no one to block. We wasted years of Manning's career. And Now we are wasting years of Barkley and Jones.
Jones remains a positive  
jeff57 : 11/10/2019 4:37 pm : link
Yes he has to work on ball security. But next to Murray hes been the best rookie QB.
RE: This was the worst  
jeff57 : 11/10/2019 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14672727 PhilD said:
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Offensive line play I have ever seen. Why draft a Barkley and Jones if you have no one to block. We wasted years of Manning's career. And Now we are wasting years of Barkley and Jones.


3 regulars were out.
RE: Here are the cold depressing facts for giants fans  
latichever : 11/10/2019 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14672663 Giantfan21 said:
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Who picked gettleman ans shurmur as GM and HC > the answer is john mara.

Who is going to pick the next Gm and HC when both of these losers get fired ? the answer is john mara .

As long as hes making the decisions there is no hope. He has no idea what hes doing. SO yeah fire shurmur , fire gettleman but it aint going to get better when they are gone because MARA is going to fuck up the next big decisions to make


Where is Pete Rozellle when we need him? He forced the Maras to hire George Young.
going to be interesting what happens  
mdc1 : 11/10/2019 4:38 pm : link
with this staff and I do agree that if our owners continue to select we are going nowhere. Really wish they would sell the team to someone committed to winning and hiring folks that know what they are doing.

They (owners) do seem quiet lately which is very interesting, unless they are quoted more locally in NY. Seems like they are hiding.
If you think we can beat Washington or Miami  
gmenrule-va : 11/10/2019 4:41 pm : link
I want to smoke what you are smoking !
RE: RE: Here are the cold depressing facts for giants fans  
Giantfan21 : 11/10/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14672732 latichever said:
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In comment 14672663 Giantfan21 said:


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Who picked gettleman ans shurmur as GM and HC > the answer is john mara.

Who is going to pick the next Gm and HC when both of these losers get fired ? the answer is john mara .

As long as hes making the decisions there is no hope. He has no idea what hes doing. SO yeah fire shurmur , fire gettleman but it aint going to get better when they are gone because MARA is going to fuck up the next big decisions to make



Where is Pete Rozellle when we need him? He forced the Maras to hire George Young.


I know it sounds stupid but giants fans need to stop going to games. The only way there will be changes and i mean real fucking changes like turning football operations over to a football guy and stopping to meddle is when it hits their pockets
RE: The people blaming Shurmur miss the boat  
Jeffrey : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14672588 Go Terps said:
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All of them have to go; all that should be left is ownership.


Amen to this. Firing Shurmur and keeping the GM who hired him and missed on so many personnel moves is the ultimate stupidity. Of course, DG is from the family and we know how important that is to ownership.
RE: O'Hara ON THE POST GAME  
RDJR : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14672606 NewBlue said:
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Giving the Giants a break because of our replacements on the OL....Tell me how were we with the starters intact?


Company guy. Always has been, always will be. I can't take that show with the company line. Papa is the only one willing to be real critical.
RE: RE: I'm feeling pretty smart right now  
TJ : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14672719 RDJR said:
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In comment 14672684 TJ said:


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I decided to spend a few hours listening to spotify and doing some maintenance in the tool shed instead of watching the game. Because of that I'm a happy man with a house full of sharp and lubricated tools when by all rights I should be an angry and disgusted fan.

I think I've already decided how I'll spend the rest of this season.



But you take time to come post here? Strange.


Not strange at all. I was curious how the game came out and I've been posting here for close to 25 years. I may not want to punish myself in real time but it would be tough to give up the team entirely and I like the site. In fact it would be strange if I did not come here.
RE: RE: RE: Here are the cold depressing facts for giants fans  
Blue21 : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14672796 Giantfan21 said:
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In comment 14672732 latichever said:


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In comment 14672663 Giantfan21 said:


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Who picked gettleman ans shurmur as GM and HC > the answer is john mara.

Who is going to pick the next Gm and HC when both of these losers get fired ? the answer is john mara .

As long as hes making the decisions there is no hope. He has no idea what hes doing. SO yeah fire shurmur , fire gettleman but it aint going to get better when they are gone because MARA is going to fuck up the next big decisions to make



Where is Pete Rozellle when we need him? He forced the Maras to hire George Young.



I know it sounds stupid but giants fans need to stop going to games. The only way there will be changes and i mean real fucking changes like turning football operations over to a football guy and stopping to meddle is when it hits their pockets


It's not stupid actually. Only physical way to send a message. If the place fills up with traveling opponent players or empty seats it should send alarms off.
RE: RE: RE: I'm feeling pretty smart right now  
RDJR : 11/10/2019 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14672832 TJ said:
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In comment 14672719 RDJR said:


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In comment 14672684 TJ said:


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I decided to spend a few hours listening to spotify and doing some maintenance in the tool shed instead of watching the game. Because of that I'm a happy man with a house full of sharp and lubricated tools when by all rights I should be an angry and disgusted fan.

I think I've already decided how I'll spend the rest of this season.



But you take time to come post here? Strange.



Not strange at all. I was curious how the game came out and I've been posting here for close to 25 years. I may not want to punish myself in real time but it would be tough to give up the team entirely and I like the site. In fact it would be strange if I did not come here.


👍🏻
Tate and Slayton were great today......  
Simms11 : 11/10/2019 4:55 pm : link
Oline is going to be critical to concentrate on in Free Agency and draft. If we can finally figure that out, then this might be a very good offense. Defense is lacking LBers a superior edge rusher and a free safety. I also think we need a DC that can get the most out of these guys. There is some talent there. STs are ok. Rosas is now playing for his job next year. These XP misses are unacceptable. They are generally chip shots.
RE: RE: This was the worst  
mrvax : 11/10/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14672731 jeff57 said:
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In comment 14672727 PhilD said:


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Offensive line play I have ever seen. Why draft a Barkley and Jones if you have no one to block. We wasted years of Manning's career. And Now we are wasting years of Barkley and Jones.



3 regulars were out.


Solder and who else? Thanks.
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