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Thank God for Daniel Jones.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/10/2019 4:38 pm
He's the real deal. He's gotta clean up on the fumbles-which are correctable-but this dude showed again he is a franchise QB.

Him & Slayton have a connection.
Well, he gave them 7 points,  
Mr. Bungle : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
and the Giants lost by 7...
I didn't think he played that well today  
Oscar : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
I like him overall and he's in a difficult spot. Tough kid, throws the ball well. Would like to see him throw it beyond five yards down field every now and then.

We'll know more next season, need a new coach and a better supporting cast.
Sorry  
GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
No respect for fumblers
He really is the only hope we have  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
and slayton looks awesome too
Would like to see  
KDubbs : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
Better pocket presence. He seems like a statue back there for some reason. Doesnt even shuffle around. Thats prob on coaching too though
RE: Well, he gave them 7 points,  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14672750 Mr. Bungle said:
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and the Giants lost by 7...


He also accounted for 4tds.
He has turnovers every  
giants_10_88 : 11/10/2019 4:40 pm : link
game. When the fuck will he fix it? TOs are horrendous. Eli level bad.
I agree. And if he had any kind of time in the pocket he wouldn't  
Blue21 : 11/10/2019 4:41 pm : link
have most of those fumbles. It's not an excuse but man he takes a beating. Now all the pass rushers are going for the strip sack. But he certainly has the tealent. Jets defense was better than ours today for sure despit the 4 TD passes. They made the stops when they had to.
I love how the thread starter says they are correctable  
robbieballs2003 : 11/10/2019 4:41 pm : link
Yet there has been zero improvement dating all the way back to the preseason.
RE: He has turnovers every  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14672759 giants_10_88 said:
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game. When the fuck will he fix it? TOs are horrendous. Eli level bad.


he's a rookie playing behind nate solder and mike remmers' fucking backups. This is probably the worst supporting cast in the league.
RE: He has turnovers every  
Giantimistic : 11/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14672759 giants_10_88 said:
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game. When the fuck will he fix it? TOs are horrendous. Eli level bad.


Eli level bad also go us Two superbowls. I will deal if that is the result again.
RE: Well, he gave them 7 points,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14672750 Mr. Bungle said:
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and the Giants lost by 7...



He also threw for 4 TDs. JFC.
RE: I didn't think he played that well today  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14672753 Oscar said:
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I like him overall and he's in a difficult spot. Tough kid, throws the ball well. Would like to see him throw it beyond five yards down field every now and then.

We'll know more next season, need a new coach and a better supporting cast.


He completed 65% of his passes for 308 yards and 4 TDs without his top 2 targets and 3 backup OLineman. That isn't playing well?
RE: I love how the thread starter says they are correctable  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14672767 robbieballs2003 said:
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Yet there has been zero improvement dating all the way back to the preseason.


8 games. The defense is historically bad as is the o line.
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Danny Kanell : 11/10/2019 4:42 pm : link
Couldnt agree more. His fight for that first down when he used the spin move showed me again all I need to know. I fucking love the kid.
RE: He has turnovers every  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:43 pm : link
In comment 14672759 giants_10_88 said:
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game. When the fuck will he fix it? TOs are horrendous. Eli level bad.


Maybe when his OL and RBs do an even decent job of blocking?
And his coach is going to get him  
Dave on the UWS : 11/10/2019 4:43 pm : link
AND Barkley killed at this rate.
RE: I love how the thread starter says they are correctable  
Jim in Tampa : 11/10/2019 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14672767 robbieballs2003 said:
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Yet there has been zero improvement dating all the way back to the preseason.

EXACTLY!!!

We have no clue whether or not this is correctable. Just another rah rah Go Giants take!
this year is a lot easier to take  
bluepepper : 11/10/2019 4:45 pm : link
if you focus on the fact that we likely have our next franchise QB. That is so huge. In 10 years 2019 won't be remembered as a 4-12(or worse) debacle but rather the first year of the Jones era. That's assuming he learns to hold on to the ball of course.
Not to mention  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:45 pm : link
A decent coach. There are a ton of problems with the Giants. DJ is certainly not one of them.
This franchise has hit rock bottom  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/10/2019 4:46 pm : link
but it amazes me people aren't encouraged by his performance in spite of the fumbles.
RE: Sorry  
Everyone Relax : 11/10/2019 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14672754 GiantEgo said:
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No respect for fumblers


This guy must be related to Darnold right? If someone said Jones makes a mean Mac n cheese he would say he overcooks the pasta.
8 games  
giants_10_88 : 11/10/2019 4:47 pm : link
you would think he would have had one without a turnover. Yet every week Where is the improvement and evidence that he will fix it? I'll believe it when I see it. maybe im just pissed we lost to this shitty jets team. Shurmur and Gettleman better get fired.
Tiki Barber had a fumbling problem until he  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/10/2019 4:47 pm : link
Didn't. And that was because of coaching.
The OL MUST be addressed  
giantstock : 11/10/2019 4:47 pm : link
Otherwise the OPs comment of Thank God for Jones will mean nothing by end of next year.
RE: This franchise has hit rock bottom  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14672804 Ned In Atlanta said:
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but it amazes me people aren't encouraged by his performance in spite of the fumbles.


A lot of Giants fans are dumb. The Giants have a lot of problems. The entire coaching staff, OL, WRs and defense. DJ is not one of them.

Lamar Jackson had 15 fumbles in 9 starts last year. Jared Goff was in double digits last year.
RE: RE: Sorry  
GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14672805 Everyone Relax said:
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No respect for fumblers



This guy must be related to Darnold right? If someone said Jones makes a mean Mac n cheese he would say he overcooks the pasta.


It's sbout Jones and his fumbles NOBODY ELSE
He's  
charlito : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
Going to be a great Qb 👍
RE: RE: RE: Sorry  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14672824 GiantEgo said:
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No respect for fumblers



This guy must be related to Darnold right? If someone said Jones makes a mean Mac n cheese he would say he overcooks the pasta.



It's sbout Jones and his fumbles NOBODY ELSE


His fumbles today were on Saquon Barkley and his pathetic attempts at pass blocking.
RE: RE: RE: Sorry  
Everyone Relax : 11/10/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14672824 GiantEgo said:
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Right but you literally respond to every post about him talking about how you dont respect him. Its a little weird
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No respect for fumblers



This guy must be related to Darnold right? If someone said Jones makes a mean Mac n cheese he would say he overcooks the pasta.



It's sbout Jones and his fumbles NOBODY ELSE
DJ is a problem at this point  
RELICDOA : 11/10/2019 4:50 pm : link
Hes not progressing, same mistakes every game.
I dont know if the fumbles are correctable, but maybe it....  
Crispino : 11/10/2019 4:52 pm : link
would help if the offensive line wasnt the worst in the NFL. Jets had13 sacks on the season coming in and recorded 6 today. Barkley had one yard on 13 carries. The Jets were practically intercepting the handoffs. On the last play of the game, they rushed three against our 5 linemen ( assuming no TE stayed in) and still got a hit on DJ. The FA linemen weve signed to upgrade have been a miserable failure. Ereck Flowers would be our second best lineman, maybe our best lineman, if he had stayed. You cant bring a stronger indictment against this organization than what you saw on the field against an inept opponent today.

And yes, I was around for the late 70s teams and this team is equally as bad as any team Ive ever seen the Giants put on the field.
RE: DJ is a problem at this point  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14672854 RELICDOA said:
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Hes not progressing, same mistakes every game.


He completed 65% of his passes for 308 yards with 4 TD passes and 20 rushing yards. He has Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Golden Tate and a rookie 5th round pick at WR. Rhett Ellison as his starting TE. Played behind an OL that was playing Eric Smith, Nick Gates & Spencer Pulley. With a RB that gained a whopping 1 yard. What do you expect from him?
Despite  
JINTin Adirondacks : 11/10/2019 4:52 pm : link
All the bs noise going on around this teams problems Daniel Jones has a definite ball retention problem so going forward who ever is calling plays or blocking... blah blah blah..This needs to stop or none of the other chit matters
He definitely has some potential and has earned the benefit of the  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 4:55 pm : link
doubt, but I wouldn't be thanking God for him just yet, he might not pan out. Ball security issues are nothing to gloss over, and although they might be correctable nothing is guaranteed.
I wouldn't get too attached to anyone  
Go Terps : 11/10/2019 4:58 pm : link
After we fire Shurmur/Gettleman in January 2021 Abrams and Garrett may want to draft Trevor Lawrence.
RE: RE: DJ is a problem at this point  
Nine-Tails : 11/10/2019 5:03 pm : link
In comment 14672873 Big Rick in FL said:
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Hes not progressing, same mistakes every game.



He completed 65% of his passes for 308 yards with 4 TD passes and 20 rushing yards. He has Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Golden Tate and a rookie 5th round pick at WR. Rhett Ellison as his starting TE. Played behind an OL that was playing Eric Smith, Nick Gates & Spencer Pulley. With a RB that gained a whopping 1 yard. What do you expect from him?


The ball security and awareness is a legitimate concern. But some here expect him to be 2007 Tom Brady. Its ridiculous
RE: RE: DJ is a problem at this point  
RELICDOA : 11/10/2019 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14672873 Big Rick in FL said:
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He completed 65% of his passes for 308 yards with 4 TD passes and 20 rushing yards. He has Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Golden Tate and a rookie 5th round pick at WR. Rhett Ellison as his starting TE. Played behind an OL that was playing Eric Smith, Nick Gates & Spencer Pulley. With a RB that gained a whopping 1 yard. What do you expect from him?


Hes not progressing, same mistakes every game.
I expect to see progress... his ball security is an issue at this point and I would like to see better decision making. Hes not playing intelligent football. Its a given that he is going to turn the ball over at least 2x a game.
Yup and 300 yds and 4 TDs with a 120 QB rating  
Carl in CT : 11/10/2019 5:09 pm : link
While getting sacked 6 times, missing 3 OL and no TE or starting Wr and he catches shit here as a rookie. Kid will be an all pro.
Hes definitely a problem based on his ball security but on a team  
RELICDOA : 11/10/2019 5:10 pm : link
Loaded with problems hes the least of the problems
Jones looks dam good - he's going to be really good  
PatersonPlank : 11/10/2019 5:11 pm : link
However the fumbling is an issue and he needs to correct it. When we get better it will cost us (if its not fixed).
RE: RE: RE: DJ is a problem at this point  
Nine-Tails : 11/10/2019 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14672989 RELICDOA said:
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He completed 65% of his passes for 308 yards with 4 TD passes and 20 rushing yards. He has Cody Latimer, Bennie Fowler, Golden Tate and a rookie 5th round pick at WR. Rhett Ellison as his starting TE. Played behind an OL that was playing Eric Smith, Nick Gates & Spencer Pulley. With a RB that gained a whopping 1 yard. What do you expect from him?



Hes not progressing, same mistakes every game.
I expect to see progress... his ball security is an issue at this point and I would like to see better decision making. Hes not playing intelligent football. Its a given that he is going to turn the ball over at least 2x a game.


The concern should be with the coaching staff. Why is the ball security and pocket awareness not improving, what are you guys doing to address that. Why is the play calling inconsistent and putting him in poor positions to succeed
RE: Yup and 300 yds and 4 TDs with a 120 QB rating  
RELICDOA : 11/10/2019 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14673003 Carl in CT said:
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While getting sacked 6 times, missing 3 OL and no TE or starting Wr and he catches shit here as a rookie. Kid will be an all pro.


I didnt say the kid was garbage! Do you not agree his ball security and overall awareness is a major issue at this point? And would you not expect to see some type of improvement before he gets killed?! Like...oh shit this line sucks I better not hold onto the ball for the standard 3 secs and get rid of it at 1.5
The hits and fumbles that come from his line of vision  
Jimmy Googs : 11/10/2019 5:13 pm : link
are what really concerns me. Its not blindsight hits that are typically dislodging the ball.

He doesn't seem to have that awareness to get his ass out of that pocket or throw the ball away...almost ever.

Tough kid though...plenty to like. And some to worry about too.

RE: Yup and 300 yds and 4 TDs with a 120 QB rating  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 11/10/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14673003 Carl in CT said:
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While getting sacked 6 times, missing 3 OL and no TE or starting Wr and he catches shit here as a rookie. Kid will be an all pro.


Exactly, and he gave them the lead
Same threads about Barkley last year.  
RDJR : 11/10/2019 5:17 pm : link
Thank God for 26. Team sport. Need a lot of good players.
Stop!!!  
Carl in CT : 11/10/2019 5:30 pm : link
Who were the best Giant on the field today? Jones and Slayton enough said!
Probably would've played better with Clinton Portis blocking  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/10/2019 5:32 pm : link
instead of Saquon. And I don't even mean Portis when he was playing. He could do a better job now too.
I guess if some people hated Jones today  
5BowlsSoon : 11/10/2019 5:38 pm : link
They really hated Barkley even more.
If he cant figure out a way to feel  
arniefez : 11/10/2019 5:46 pm : link
Where the pressure is coming from hell never reach his potential. He is a turnover machine and will remain one until that changes. I dont know if thats a learned skill. I hope it is. If it is there is no one to teach him on this coaching staff. If hes stuck with this HC for another year he may never be a winning QB. He certainly isnt one now.
I think Jones became the first rookie QB ever  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/10/2019 5:47 pm : link
with 3 games of 300+ yards passing and 2+ TDs and zero interceptions.
RE: I didn't think he played that well today  
BSIMatt : 11/10/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14672753 Oscar said:
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I like him overall and he's in a difficult spot. Tough kid, throws the ball well. Would like to see him throw it beyond five yards down field every now and then.

We'll know more next season, need a new coach and a better supporting cast.


Youll see him throw the ball behind five yards now and then when the A)Giants can provide enough time for those routes to develop B)The Giants have more than one receiver thats a downfield threat. Slayton is a good downfield option, its not the strength of the remaining receivers however.
Im very impressed with Jones..  
Sean : 11/10/2019 6:00 pm : link
I highly doubt this coaching staff is capable of correcting any fumbling issue. We dont even have a QB coach.
The issue with this team...  
GRBlue : 11/10/2019 6:05 pm : link
Is that it's horribly coached. You can see now it had nothing to do with Eli.

DJ is the future, needs the 2020 version of Coughlin for the next 12 years, who ever that is.
The issue with this team...  
GRBlue : 11/10/2019 6:07 pm : link
Is that it's horribly coached. You can see now it wasn't all on Eli.

DJ is the future and gave fans the spark we needed but this team needs the 2020 version of Coughlin for the next 12 years. It aint Pat.
RE: Im very impressed with Jones..  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 6:07 pm : link
In comment 14673294 Sean said:
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I highly doubt this coaching staff is capable of correcting any fumbling issue. We dont even have a QB coach.


For the life of me I still can't figure this one out. You have a rookie QB and no QB coach. The rest of the league has QB coaches. And you have a HC who does his own playcalling when the team is circling the drain.

Why the fuck do the Giants insist on always trying to outsmart everyone?
I like DJ a lot  
mrvax : 11/10/2019 6:36 pm : link
but he holds the ball too long, gets clobbered and coughs it up way too much. An electric shock collar could help train him.

He's trying to do too much  
BigBlueCane : 11/10/2019 6:40 pm : link
and is pressing too much.
RE: Well, he gave them 7 points,  
islander1 : 11/10/2019 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14672750 Mr. Bungle said:
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and the Giants lost by 7...


and threw for 4 touchdown passes.

get the fuck out of here with this idiocy.
The left guard gets pushed back SEVEN yards  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/10/2019 6:50 pm : link
and the running back gives a non-competitive block, but the QB is the main issue here? Both fumbles had that in common... an o-lineman being shoved directly back on top of the QB and a horrendous block by the running back.


Adams TD


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