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Football is supposed to be fun. This isn't fun.

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2019 7:04 pm
This is just masochism at this point.

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As a STH  
Rick Morehouse : 11/10/2019 7:07 pm : link
You can feel the misery in the stadium at home games. Even the parking lot, which would normally be jammed by 9 a.m., is 1/4 empty at noon. Itís starting to legit hit the fanbase finally. Sucks.
Just skip most of the game, then.  
Route 9 : 11/10/2019 7:07 pm : link
Play Hopscotch or go watch a movie?
.  
GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 7:08 pm : link
and there really is no end in sight
You mean flushing  
Dave on the UWS : 11/10/2019 7:08 pm : link
Sun afternoon after Sun afternoon isnít fun.??
agreed Eric  
AndyMilligan : 11/10/2019 7:08 pm : link
I'm just focusing more on my FF teams...
I miss hopscotch  
cjac : 11/10/2019 7:08 pm : link
No one plays outside anymore
.  
GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 7:09 pm : link
Wiffle ball would be much more fun
John Mara has really wrecked a good thing  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/10/2019 7:10 pm : link
All in the name of "the Giants Way" like his father did after Lombardi/Landry. It all started with the new stadium and then the proverbial parade of mistakes.

Second half I threw the football outside in the yard with the kids. Much more fun.
RE: You mean flushing  
cjac : 11/10/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14673490 Dave on the UWS said:
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Sun afternoon after Sun afternoon isnít fun.??


I really need to know what this sentence means
Turned it off at the half  
mfsd : 11/10/2019 7:12 pm : link
and took a great nap. Sounds like the Giants made it a game, but the defense blowing the lead is as predictable as the sun rising in the East

Itís a total bummer that Giants football gives us so little to look forward to the last few years
Darkest before the Dawn I hope  
Gap92 : 11/10/2019 7:13 pm : link
But Iíve never had such apathy for this team - even though Iím big on Jones, Barkley, Golden, Slayton and a few others for the future. Iíll watch every snap as always but Iím deflated in terms of emotional investment.
honestly, I am becoming less and less invested  
larryflower37 : 11/10/2019 7:13 pm : link
I would have never missed games in the past.
I am 48 and luck enough to really start watch around 1980.
I recorded the game and went to my daughter's basketball practice and shot around after.
I will skim through it tomorrow but I don't get emotional about it anymore.
Itís really terrible  
Sammo85 : 11/10/2019 7:15 pm : link
Some of the Coughlin seasons were disappointing and the Fassel and Reeves eras fell a little flat the last year or two but this is outrageous and really depressing.

This is non competitive, inept, sloppy, ugly, unmotivated, disjointed, Iím not even going to call it football.

They make a couple interesting drives during the game but in todayís offense happy and QB protect mode itís not as impressive. Overall they are so bereft of impact and consistency in so many areas of the roster. One year discipline is a big problem, the next itís gameplanning, the next itís roster depth, the next itís inability to educate and improve, the next itís adjustments and injuries.

Ugh.
Giants have ruined  
bigblue18 : 11/10/2019 7:16 pm : link
all football enjoyment. can't watch any football anymore no interest.
This has become an annual event with this org now  
micky : 11/10/2019 7:21 pm : link
I see it's starting to fade away the faithful. Unless it changes dramatically at top top of org, it'll only get worse to cleveland browns terrortory
Itís depressing really  
The_Boss : 11/10/2019 7:21 pm : link
And until proven differently, each year I expect this rudderless operation to continue to languish among the dreck of the league. There is no hope.
It's torture  
BestFeature : 11/10/2019 7:23 pm : link
Every Sunday when the game is done I go through a period of self-loathing. I really need better ways to spend my Sundays.
This isn't torture  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 7:26 pm : link
There are rules of torture. Fuck waterboarding, if ISIS knew what American football was they'd give up entirely after a few weekends of this shit.
I went to the  
BigBlueinDE : 11/10/2019 7:27 pm : link
Boise Art Museum and peeked here on BBI on occasion.

Frankly, it was a more constructive use of my time.
You too Eric?  
joeinpa : 11/10/2019 7:28 pm : link
I get being disgusted, and even angry. But hope you re not joining the apathy crowd, they re hard to take.

Love coming to the site, enjoy the opinions, the passion, but the apathy is a big negative to the site
Draft season  
Jay in Toronto : 11/10/2019 7:31 pm : link
Should be fun.

Just like the 70s
RE: You too Eric?  
micky : 11/10/2019 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14673594 joeinpa said:
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I get being disgusted, and even angry. But hope you re not joining the apathy crowd, they re hard to take.

Love coming to the site, enjoy the opinions, the passion, but the apathy is a big negative to the site


Glad you find enjoyment. I hope it stays same for you
Just sold my GB NYG tickets online  
djm : 11/10/2019 7:33 pm : link
And i had a built in iron clad excuse to miss some stupid lunch engagement my wife doesnít even like going to every year. I would rather go to that and save a few bucks than watch this sad sack of shit team, in person.

Between the nfl product deteriorating, the MetLife experience always sucking and the giants finding ways to get even even worse than 2013-2015, I am this close. Call me fair weather I donít care, watching this team lose like this for so long is just killing me. Itís too painful. Love the giants so much but there has to be some hope at some point and Iím scared there isnít.
RE: RE: You too Eric?  
BestFeature : 11/10/2019 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14673608 micky said:
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In comment 14673594 joeinpa said:


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I get being disgusted, and even angry. But hope you re not joining the apathy crowd, they re hard to take.

Love coming to the site, enjoy the opinions, the passion, but the apathy is a big negative to the site



Glad you find enjoyment. I hope it stays same for you


Are you not familiar with what the word apathy means?
Couldn't agree more.  
Danthebigbluefan : 11/10/2019 7:37 pm : link
And it's why I didn't even watch the game today. Why would I? To get frustrated and annoyed so I'm in a bad mood for the rest of my weekend?

There's a feeling fans have where they are at least tuning in every week to support an attractive style of football. They may lose and the team may just be outmatched in terms of talent. I think we'd all agree this is certainly ONE of the problems the Giants have.

However, when I watch vanilla, boring, uncreative, uninspiring, and generally unattractive dipshit play calling - that's when I lose my patience.

I don't mind if we lose, heck I don't mind if we lose a lot because, as I said, right now we don't have a good team compared to others. But we don't even game plan, it seems, to utilize our best players. And worse, our players aren't progressing they're regressing. I don't see the OL becoming this cohesive unit that we all hoped for. I see them staying as bad as they were last year and in the first 4 games of the season.

I don't see our defence and the players on that side of the ball doing anything that makes me go "ok we've got something with this player, he looks good" - I just go wow these guys fucking suck.

It starts at the top and trickles down, but I honestly can't fathom how John Mara is going to just sit back and watch another 7 games of this shit. Shurmur is a bum and he may be a nice man, that's great. But he's not a good HC. This is a performance-based business and why any owner/executive would say "well, we've always done it this way so we have to give him a full season" is the DEFINITION of insanity, and stupidity. You know what you have to do in 1.5 months, so why not just do it now and at LEAST start instilling some accountability into this organization that failure won't be tolerated and allowed to continue.

It's sickening. This is supposed to be a proud, legacy organization and ownership group. I feel like we're being laughed at by the clown organizations of the NFL.

There's countless examples of where I ask myself "what was the 'plan' there?"

Eli being kept with his massive salary when it's pretty obvious Jones was the guy.
Bettcher being given some sort of carte blanche to bring in all his old crew from Arizona.
Bringing Saquon back after 3 weeks out with a high ankle sprain, and then the fucking STUPIDITY OF STUBBORNNESS to not put Gallman in when Barkley's pass pro has been horrendous.
The LACK of help to our OL or any type of scheme to help a CLEARLY incompetent OL.
It goes on and on.

I just won't watch games if I have something better to do.
I truly believe a coaching change is needed at year end.....  
Simms11 : 11/10/2019 7:40 pm : link
thereís no way that this coaching staff turns this mess around even next year. Thereís no improvement now, none. Unless they win out, which is highly unlikely, I think thereíll be a change. I hate to keep changing coaches and staff, but Giants made a mistake and have to own up to it.
Agreed, Eric.  
81_Great_Dane : 11/10/2019 7:41 pm : link
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Totally agree  
EJJ : 11/10/2019 7:42 pm : link
I was excited when the started Jones even went to the Redskins game and left pumped!
Not just losing but the way they loose is depressing. They are an embarrassment. The state of the coaching staff gives me little faith in the future of this team.
I'm not watching this season - not unless they make a change  
DavidinBMNY : 11/10/2019 7:46 pm : link
I'll catch the lowlights on ESPN.

Years and years of losing.

Mara can't get it fixed.

Something has to change, otherwise it's just insanity.
It's horrible.  
Rick5 : 11/10/2019 7:48 pm : link
I was actually switching back and forth with the Rangers game. They lost too, but it was a lot more entertaining.
Numbing  
Jimmy Googs : 11/10/2019 7:50 pm : link
watching them fall behind 14-0. To the Jets.

Only to get excited to see them claw back and take the lead, and then completely fall apart on offense and defense to finish the game.

In fact, numbing since about Dec 2016...
Winning is fun !  
Bluesbreaker : 11/10/2019 7:53 pm : link
But were saddled with a perennial loser of a head
coach . this team is so poorly coached you don't
need to be an expert to see it .
Yes we had one very costly miss on Soldier but the
last two drafts look pretty solid the bad is
we need three starters and it takes time to gel '
Golden has bounced back ad has had a very good season.
I am fine with DG but the staff needs to go .
I'm mad at myself this week.  
Diver_Down : 11/10/2019 7:58 pm : link
There was the rare cold front that brought mid-70's, blue skies, and no humidity to the area. Yet, I made the choice to watch the game. Pisses me off. One thing is for certain is that I won't make the same mistake next week.
Went for a hike.  
Kanavis : 11/10/2019 8:07 pm : link
And watched it on DVR. You can see an entire game in 45 minutes or so. Much less exposure that way. Not dedicating any full Sundays to football until the Giants are a semi legitimate organization. They aren't now. I don't believe in tanking and was rooting for them. But waste my Sundays....no more.
I can take losing  
Jolly Blue Giant : 11/10/2019 8:08 pm : link
But itís just that itís been bad for too long....my son is starting to lose interest. He loves the NFL and the Giants, but heís 10 years old. He started getting into 7 years ago. Terrible run.
It's been a bad team for six years.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/10/2019 8:12 pm : link
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I knew  
mittenedman : 11/10/2019 8:14 pm : link
the 1st play when Jones lined up in Shotgun they were fucked. Shurmur is an unbelievable moron.
RE: I can take losing  
Diver_Down : 11/10/2019 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14673745 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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But itís just that itís been bad for too long....my son is starting to lose interest. He loves the NFL and the Giants, but heís 10 years old. He started getting into 7 years ago. Terrible run.


He got into watching the Giants at 3 years old?
RE: RE: I can take losing  
Jolly Blue Giant : 11/10/2019 8:20 pm : link
In comment 14673769 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14673745 Jolly Blue Giant said:


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But itís just that itís been bad for too long....my son is starting to lose interest. He loves the NFL and the Giants, but heís 10 years old. He started getting into 7 years ago. Terrible run.



He got into watching the Giants at 3 years old?

Yes, maybe 4. He would sit through an entire game at the stadium and knew a good amount of players.
they're rebuilding  
bc4life : 11/10/2019 8:25 pm : link
this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.
RE: they're rebuilding  
BillKo : 11/10/2019 8:31 pm : link
In comment 14673793 bc4life said:
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this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.


Yeah......looks like we've got a QB with exceptional accuracy. Just need to build around him.

I've said this before, DG/PS can't worry about what happened from 2013 thru 2017.

But, the arrow is pointing down in Year 2 of this regime so someone has to fall on the sword.

Shurmur is my choice.
I watch every game, every weekend  
PatersonPlank : 11/10/2019 8:32 pm : link
As long as this is part of the rebuilding process I'm ok. If its just an ongoing crappy team, then I'll get pissed. Right now the jury is out.

P.S. - I think Shurmur sucks
RE: they're rebuilding  
Go Terps : 11/10/2019 8:34 pm : link
In comment 14673793 bc4life said:
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this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.


This is a complete delusion.
This is not only not fun it is depressing  
Phil in Joisey : 11/10/2019 8:36 pm : link
With Mara ownership we are well on our way to another
era of 18 years of bad football and a plane flying
over the Meadowlands to let the world know.
This franchise is a joke. It is going nowhere,
building nothing and will continue that way
as long as John Mara is a part of the football decision
making.
No. It Isn't Fun  
Percy : 11/10/2019 8:38 pm : link
And won't be until reasonable fans can see a sound way forward to a new GM, a new Coach, and way better evaluations of player football talent, all aimed at securing better on the field performance. The Giants today get an F in all of these. Fs are no fun.

It's become exhausting to root for these losers. People laugh at you now for being a Giants fan. Does Mara give a damn? You have to wonder. If he doesn't he's going to lose it all. He's the top boob, the boob in charge. They'll start snickering at him and his family in restaurants, at their clubs, in their children's schools. Surely that's already begun with this mess of his -- and it is his, not someone else's. A mess for which there can be no sound excuse.
RE: they're rebuilding  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2019 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14673793 bc4life said:
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this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.


If I saw the "building", I would be on board. But I don't see the foundation being built at all.
RE: RE: they're rebuilding  
BillKo : 11/10/2019 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14673829 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14673793 bc4life said:


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this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.



If I saw the "building", I would be on board. But I don't see the foundation being built at all.


I am really dissapointed in the OL.

Take for instance Hernandez....he looked like a quality pick in Round 2.

But he doesn't even stick out in a good way in his second year. I mean...he looks absolutely average and he's probably our best lineman.
Here's the issue  
ryanmkeane : 11/10/2019 8:45 pm : link
with our "rebuild"...the coach sucks and most of the players suck.
RE: RE: RE: they're rebuilding  
The_Boss : 11/10/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14673840 BillKo said:
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In comment 14673829 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14673793 bc4life said:


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this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.



If I saw the "building", I would be on board. But I don't see the foundation being built at all.



I am really dissapointed in the OL.

Take for instance Hernandez....he looked like a quality pick in Round 2.

But he doesn't even stick out in a good way in his second year. I mean...he looks absolutely average and he's probably our best lineman.


Do any players here get better from year 1 to year 2? This is why we donít sign anyone to 2nd contracts and have to dive into FA to improve the roster. Coaching/player development and talent evaluation is sorely lacking here. Thatís on PS and DG.
RE: they're rebuilding  
BH28 : 11/10/2019 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14673793 bc4life said:
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this is what it looks like.

It sucks, I'm pissed, but I keep it in perspective.


They are 49-72 since the 2012 season. This isn't re-building; it's ineptitude by ownership.
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