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cjac : 11/10/2019 7:07 pm
Are the Giants officially the worst team in the NFL?
Bengals  
Sammo85 : 11/10/2019 7:08 pm : link
are the worst. But Giants are right there with a grouping at the 2-3 spots with the Skins, Dolphins, Jets.

a team built to tank...  
mphbullet36 : 11/10/2019 7:09 pm : link
has a better record then us right now....scary and pretty embarrassing for Mara/DG/Shurmur
what  
AndyMilligan : 11/10/2019 7:09 pm : link
pick would we have right now?
Dolphin Pride  
GiantEgo : 11/10/2019 7:11 pm : link
Enough said
Wait until they beat us at the Met Life Mausoleum  
truebluelarry : 11/10/2019 7:11 pm : link
in a few weeks!
RE: what  
spike : 11/10/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14673498 AndyMilligan said:
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pick would we have right now?


#3 behind Cinci and Washington. The next Redskins game could be for the no 2 pick!!
Iím really annoyed that Tampa kicker shanked that kick.  
Vin_Cuccs : 11/10/2019 7:16 pm : link
They could have been in the running for the 1st overall selection in the draft.
RE: RE: what  
AndyMilligan : 11/10/2019 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14673528 spike said:
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pick would we have right now?



#3 behind Cinci and Washington. The next Redskins game could be for the no 2 pick!!


goodness.. fuck it hope we lose.. more draft capital, this team needs it..
So in 3rd spot? Yet?  
micky : 11/10/2019 7:17 pm : link
In draft
We  
DRich1980 : 11/10/2019 7:18 pm : link
Would have the 3rd pick if the draft was today with Cincinnati and Washington ahead of us
Flores deserves coach of the year consideration  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2019 7:19 pm : link
When you evaluate that pathetic roster you will see a team that should be 0-16. Not only do they now have 2 wins but they are playing hard.

Whatís amazing is that there are so few broken plays, miscommunications, and penalties despite all those young, new, inexperienced players.

Bettcher should be embarrassed for the Giants performance on defense when they have far more talent on defense. Theyíve brought in several of his guys (Bethea, Golden, Martin, Bucannon, Mauro) But the defense is as bad as itís ever been and there are so many missed assignments and busted coverages.

This whole staff deserves to be fired with the exception of Thomas McGaughey.
Top 3 pick would feel better  
TJ : 11/10/2019 7:20 pm : link
if we were going to have our 3rd and 4th rounders.
I wish we had Flores..  
Sean : 11/10/2019 7:21 pm : link
Love what heís doing in Miami with no talent.
Where are all those posters...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/10/2019 7:22 pm : link
Who claimed that the Dolphins were Tanking for Tua?

I guess somebody forgot to tell the players.
TJ  
XBRONX : 11/10/2019 7:25 pm : link
who has our fourth rounder?
We will lose to Miami  
RUNYG : 11/10/2019 7:25 pm : link
Fitzpatrick will have one of his 5TD games vs our D
There goes the Giants last chance for a win!  
SterlingArcher : 11/10/2019 7:28 pm : link
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mphbullet36 : 11/10/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14673539 AndyMilligan said:
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pick would we have right now?



#3 behind Cinci and Washington. The next Redskins game could be for the no 2 pick!!



goodness.. fuck it hope we lose.. more draft capital, this team needs it..


would be nice to have our 3rd rounder now wouldnt it...smh DG is a blowhard
RE: TJ  
AcidTest : 11/10/2019 7:39 pm : link
In comment 14673581 XBRONX said:
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who has our fourth rounder?


Fourth rounder is in 2021. Fifth if we don't resign Williams, but by all accounts, it's likely that we will.
That's a sobering thought  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 7:41 pm : link
The Dolphins are actively trying to lose, and the Giants are out-stinking them.

All the while people are pointing out how strong the drafts have been the past couple of years. Fantastic.
RE: a team built to tank...  
section125 : 11/10/2019 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14673496 mphbullet36 said:
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has a better record then us right now....scary and pretty embarrassing for Mara/DG/Shurmur


2-7 is 2-7, how is that a better record?
RE: RE: RE: RE: what  
section125 : 11/10/2019 7:52 pm : link
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pick would we have right now?



#3 behind Cinci and Washington. The next Redskins game could be for the no 2 pick!!



goodness.. fuck it hope we lose.. more draft capital, this team needs it..



would be nice to have our 3rd rounder now wouldnt it...smh DG is a blowhard


So Leonard Williams isn't a better player than what they'd get in the 3rd round?
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mphbullet36 : 11/10/2019 7:54 pm : link
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pick would we have right now?



#3 behind Cinci and Washington. The next Redskins game could be for the no 2 pick!!



goodness.. fuck it hope we lose.. more draft capital, this team needs it..



would be nice to have our 3rd rounder now wouldnt it...smh DG is a blowhard



So Leonard Williams isn't a better player than what they'd get in the 3rd round?


what kind of justification is that. Deals and picks are all about managing the cap. A high 3rd round pick on a rookie salary plus the cap space is better then Leonard Williams making 10+ million a year. Yes easy answer
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Eli Wilson : 11/10/2019 7:54 pm : link
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pick would we have right now?



#3 behind Cinci and Washington. The next Redskins game could be for the no 2 pick!!



goodness.. fuck it hope we lose.. more draft capital, this team needs it..



would be nice to have our 3rd rounder now wouldnt it...smh DG is a blowhard



So Leonard Williams isn't a better player than what they'd get in the 3rd round?


Exactly what I was going to say. He seems worth it so far and he hasn't been here that long.
He seems worth a 3rd, a 4th, and extending him at $12-15M  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 7:55 pm : link
a season?

You've been watching the Giants so long you have ridiculously low expectations.
RE: He seems worth a 3rd, a 4th, and extending him at $12-15M  
Justlurking : 11/10/2019 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14673707 jcn56 said:
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a season?

You've been watching the Giants so long you have ridiculously low expectations.


Itís almost like Gettleman defenders donít understand asset management
RE: RE: He seems worth a 3rd, a 4th, and extending him at $12-15M  
mphbullet36 : 11/10/2019 8:07 pm : link
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a season?

You've been watching the Giants so long you have ridiculously low expectations.



Itís almost like Gettleman defenders donít understand asset management


i keep hearing is a 3rd rounder better than Williams? What kind of video game logic is that.

A 3rd rounder (high almost a late 2nd) - rookie scale contract

A 4th rounder - rookie scale contract

and committing 10-14 M per year when you could have used that cap space to add more talent

is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leonard Williams
RE: That's a sobering thought  
Bluesbreaker : 11/10/2019 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14673649 jcn56 said:
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The Dolphins are actively trying to lose, and the Giants are out-stinking them.

All the while people are pointing out how strong the drafts have been the past couple of years. Fantastic.

The last two drafts have been good . thats a fact .
Barkley is inured and it shows
Jones looks very capable .PUT a capable O-Line
in front of them Get a edge rusher and a tackling machine
LB a FS and a few other players we will get back to winning
but not with this staff
The last two drafts  
Marty866b : 11/10/2019 8:19 pm : link
Have not been good. Tired or reading that hear. Barkley should not have been our choice. Hernandez is mediocore,at best. Hill and Carter are nothing. What else did we get out of last year's selections that can get anyone excited.
The jury is till out on this year's players as it's too early to fully evaluate after 10 games. I see a mixed bag so far.
RE: RE: That's a sobering thought  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 8:40 pm : link
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The Dolphins are actively trying to lose, and the Giants are out-stinking them.

All the while people are pointing out how strong the drafts have been the past couple of years. Fantastic.


The last two drafts have been good . thats a fact .
Barkley is inured and it shows
Jones looks very capable .PUT a capable O-Line
in front of them Get a edge rusher and a tackling machine
LB a FS and a few other players we will get back to winning
but not with this staff


How's it a fact? Barkley regressed this year, Jones is fumble prone but has some promise. Everyone else? Lorenzo Carter? BJ Hill? Kyle Lauletta? Baker? Shit - save for Dexter Lawrence, who has been good but cost a 17th overall so you expect a solid starter - where's the
factual proof these drafts are any better than what came before them?
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The_Boss : 11/10/2019 8:47 pm : link
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The Dolphins are actively trying to lose, and the Giants are out-stinking them.

All the while people are pointing out how strong the drafts have been the past couple of years. Fantastic.


The last two drafts have been good . thats a fact .
Barkley is inured and it shows
Jones looks very capable .PUT a capable O-Line
in front of them Get a edge rusher and a tackling machine
LB a FS and a few other players we will get back to winning
but not with this staff



How's it a fact? Barkley regressed this year, Jones is fumble prone but has some promise. Everyone else? Lorenzo Carter? BJ Hill? Kyle Lauletta? Baker? Shit - save for Dexter Lawrence, who has been good but cost a 17th overall so you expect a solid starter - where's the
factual proof these drafts are any better than what came before them?


There is no proof. The DG apologists never fail to surprise.

Carter and Hill, to me, have been colossal disappointments. As has the how badly the masses here on BBI were completely over-rating our DL. I saw a ton of ďIím confident nobody is going to run on usĒ and ďThese guys along the DL should be able to produce enough pocket collapsing to help the pass DĒ....comical.
#3 pick is awesome  
DCOrange : 11/10/2019 9:03 pm : link
Said this in another thread. Stay ahead of Miami and control who gets the second QB between Tua and Burrow. Get Miamiís two firsts while they get their QB.
#3 pick is awesome  
DCOrange : 11/10/2019 9:04 pm : link
Said this in another thread. Stay ahead of Miami and control who gets the second QB between Tua and Burrow. Get Miamiís two firsts while they get their QB.
Why would williams  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/10/2019 10:09 pm : link
Re sign with this shit show?
'The last two drafts have not been good.'  
Torrag : 11/10/2019 10:44 pm : link
Early indications are they have been good. Many contributing players and they're obviously improving.

Jones, Barkley, Lawrence, Hernandez, Slayton, Ballantine, Baker, Connelly, Hill. All are making plays and showing upside. They're young but promising and are off to good starts for their careers.
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