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The Ultimate List of Head Coaching Candidates

Vin_Cuccs : 11/10/2019 9:04 pm
Letís start the discussion! Who is your pick? Who do you like?

Obviously this list is not perfect, and many names are not good fits or unrealistic. Itis compiled from several different sources.

Matt Eberflus-Colts defensive coordinator
Matt Rhule-Baylor University head coach
Mike McCarthy-former Packers head coach
Kris Richard-Cowboys defensive passing coordinator
Eric Bieniemy-Chiefs offensive coordinator
Dave Toub-Chiefs special teams coach/assistant head coach
Jim Harbaugh-University of Michigan head coach
PJ Fleck-University of Minnesota head coach
Robert Saleh-49ers defensive coordinator
Josh McDaniels-Patriots offensive coordinator
Bret Bielema-Patriots defensive line coach
Shane Waldron-Rams passing game coordinator
Kellen Moore-Cowboys offensive coordinator
Greg Roman-Ravens offensive coordinator
Brian Daboll-Bills offensive coordinator
Kevin Stefanski-Vikings offensive coordinator
Nick Sirianni-Colts offensive coordinator
Mike Pettine-Packers defensive coordinator
Mike Groh-Eagles offensive coordinator
Nick Saban-University of Alamaba head coach
Pepper Johnson-XFL defensive coordinator
Dan Campbell-Saints tight ends coach/assistant head coach
Duce Staley-Eagles running back coach/assistant head coach
Byron Leftwich-Buccaneers offensive coordinator
Todd Monken-Browns offensive coordinator
Lincoln Riley-Oklahoma University head coach
David Shaw-Stanford University head coach
Scott Frost-University of Nebraska Head coach
Ed Orgeron-Louisian State University head coach
Dino Babers-Syracuse University head coach
Chris Petersen-University of Washington head coach
Gary Patterson-TCU head coach
Brian Kelly-University of Notre Dame head coach
Dabo Swinney-Clemson University head coach
Jimbo Fisher-Texas A& M University head coach
Don Martindale-Ravens defensive coordinator
Mike Leach-Washington State University head coach
Leslie Frazier-Bills defensive coordinator
Jack Del Rio-former Raiders head coach
Mike Smith-former Falcons head coach
Matt Campbell-Iowa State University head coach
Pete Carmichael Jr.-Saints offensive coordinator
Chip Kelly-UCLA head coach
Rick Dennison-Vikings offensive line coach/offensive run game coordinator
Urban Meyer-former Ohio State University head coach
Steve Sarkisian-University of Alabama offensive coordinator
You left off  
Mike in NY : 11/10/2019 9:06 pm : link
Steve Belichick
anyone but Shurmur.....  
thrunthrublue : 11/10/2019 9:06 pm : link
we currently have no better than Scott the engineer as the giants head coach.
David Shaw or Lincoln Riley.  
The_Boss : 11/10/2019 9:06 pm : link
NYG will never take a chance though.

Rhule is a really interesting one  
montanagiant : 11/10/2019 9:07 pm : link
He is doing more with less than any other College Coach
Lane Kiffen here  
The_Boss : 11/10/2019 9:08 pm : link
Would be fucking awesome.
I want a program builder  
Sean : 11/10/2019 9:08 pm : link
Rhule or McDaniels
question  
CMicks3110 : 11/10/2019 9:08 pm : link
if you bring in a new head coach, are they going to be committed to the type of team Gettleman seems to be trying to build? More of a power team?
...  
ryanmkeane : 11/10/2019 9:08 pm : link
McCarthy, Rhule, Brian Kelly

Not trying to sound like a dick but I'm really not interested in anyone else. Don't want a lifelong coordinator, don't want someone who is "up and coming" with no HC experience. Don't want someone who is the next QB guru guy. I want someone who demands respect and has a history of turning around a franchise or program or having a record of contending for championships.
In all seriousness  
Mike in NY : 11/10/2019 9:09 pm : link
Dan Campbell
Matt Eberflus
Robert Saleh

That is my short list
RE: question  
Justlurking : 11/10/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14673939 CMicks3110 said:
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if you bring in a new head coach, are they going to be committed to the type of team Gettleman seems to be trying to build? More of a power team?


He needs to go as well
Anyone  
CMicks3110 : 11/10/2019 9:09 pm : link
think Belichik would come with the NE dynasty almost over?
RE: David Shaw or Lincoln Riley.  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/10/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14673928 The_Boss said:
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NYG will never take a chance though.


I liked Shaw years ago but he runs an ancient offense that is predicated dominating people up front that isn't going to happen at this level.
Rhule makes a ton of sense.  
Vin_Cuccs : 11/10/2019 9:11 pm : link
Heíd be a great hire.

Eberflus would be interesting as well.
Whoever it needs has to be a leader not a schemer or play caller.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/10/2019 9:13 pm : link
They need to put this team in the best position to succeed. That means communicating his vision, hold everybody accountable, prepare for all situations, knows how to evaluate talent and knows what talent he needs for his team, how to manage a clock, brings in the best coaches, etc.
Steve Belichick  
Oscar : 11/10/2019 9:15 pm : link
Is not going to leave his dadís staff to take a job working for Dave Gettleman. Would be a very interesting choice but you would have to blow up the football operation and let him come in with a personnel guy heís familiar with and will work in tandem with.

The Giants will not do that.
it would never happen  
jtfuoco : 11/10/2019 9:16 pm : link
but if the team went the college path then why not Mike Leach the guy seems to win no matter where he goes and always has lesser talent then everybody else. So nothing would change in that regard if he came to the Giants even his pirate attitude would be more fun to watch then what we have.
RE: Steve Belichick  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/10/2019 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14673974 Oscar said:
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Is not going to leave his dadís staff to take a job working for Dave Gettleman. Would be a very interesting choice but you would have to blow up the football operation and let him come in with a personnel guy heís familiar with and will work in tandem with.

The Giants will not do that.


To forward thinking and it is definetly worth the risk. The potential is through the roof.
Steve Belichick would be a risk.  
Vin_Cuccs : 11/10/2019 9:18 pm : link
32 years old. Only 3 real years of coaching experience at any level.

He does control the best defense in the league though....
There are several good names  
Jay on the Island : 11/10/2019 9:20 pm : link
Since Lincoln Riley and Shaw are pipe dreams here is my realistic wish list:
Kris Richard
Matt Eberflus
Dan Campbell
Dave Toub
Nick Sirianni
Matt Rhule
You forgot Gary Kubiak ...  
Spider56 : 11/10/2019 9:23 pm : link
Much as Iíd prefer a defensive guy, Kubiak is a proven winner who appears to have the health issues under control.
Rhule  
Matt in SGS : 11/10/2019 9:28 pm : link
as we've said on BBI before, Rhule checks many boxes for how the Giants operate. Granted he was only with them for 1 season. But Fassel was with the Giants for 2 seasons and Coughlin for 3 as assistants.

Rhule has had to rebuild a disgraced Baylor program from literally nothing and has gotten them back to a winning program.

That he secretly interviewed with the Colts tells me that he was ready to take his chance at the NFL, but didn't feel Indy was the right fit. He's going to be the hot candidate and you never know how things will work out in Baylor if they struggle next year and his star fades.
RE: You forgot Gary Kubiak ...  
bw in dc : 11/10/2019 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14674001 Spider56 said:
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Much as Iíd prefer a defensive guy, Kubiak is a proven winner who appears to have the health issues under control.


Nice call. I'd also get a bit creative and toss in Joe Brady, LSU's offensive coordinator. He has NFL ties and has put together a masterpiece for LSU..
Donít forget....  
Vin_Cuccs : 11/10/2019 9:38 pm : link
Matt Rhule was offered the Jets job before Adam Gase last off-season. The only reason he didnít take the job was because Mike Maccagnan wanted to pick his assistant coaches for him.
Not a valid list without this guy  
Marty866b : 11/10/2019 9:40 pm : link
Clay Helton.
RE: Rhule  
bw in dc : 11/10/2019 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14674023 Matt in SGS said:
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as we've said on BBI before, Rhule checks many boxes for how the Giants operate. Granted he was only with them for 1 season. But Fassel was with the Giants for 2 seasons and Coughlin for 3 as assistants.

Rhule has had to rebuild a disgraced Baylor program from literally nothing and has gotten them back to a winning program.

That he secretly interviewed with the Colts tells me that he was ready to take his chance at the NFL, but didn't feel Indy was the right fit. He's going to be the hot candidate and you never know how things will work out in Baylor if they struggle next year and his star fades.


Uh, Baylor has NEVER has problems attracting players. Ever. They weren't in the SMU zone...
Rhule makes a  
Simms11 : 11/10/2019 9:42 pm : link
lot of sense. Coached Temple to back to back 10 win seasons too. Additionally, coached both sides of the ball, played LBer and was an assistant Oline coach with Giants. Coaching a very successful Oline with Diehl, Seubert, OHara, McKenzie and Snee, as well.
Giants  
Sammo85 : 11/10/2019 9:44 pm : link
need a head coach. Not some great playcaller or positional mastermind.

Kris Richard - Gets high praise from players for his teaching and communication and his approaches to management and philosophy on defense.

Matt Rhule - Fits idea of program builder and manager. My concern is what coaches heíd bring in to attack both sides of the ball. Whatís his NFL philosophy.

Jim Harbaugh - High Energy program builder. Also would be a coach for Jones on and off the field. Might be a better pro head coach than college one and I think he could build a better pro staff than college one.

Urban Meyer - Doubtful and concerns as to how his program and psychological methods would work with pro athletes but heís got an eye for talent and running disciplined systems on both sides of ball.
Dan Campbell  
Chris684 : 11/10/2019 9:46 pm : link
Kris Richard

Chase Blackburn
RE: Giants  
bw in dc : 11/10/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14674065 Sammo85 said:
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need a head coach. Not some great playcaller or positional mastermind.

Kris Richard - Gets high praise from players for his teaching and communication and his approaches to management and philosophy on defense.

Matt Rhule - Fits idea of program builder and manager. My concern is what coaches heíd bring in to attack both sides of the ball. Whatís his NFL philosophy.

Jim Harbaugh - High Energy program builder. Also would be a coach for Jones on and off the field. Might be a better pro head coach than college one and I think he could build a better pro staff than college one.

Urban Meyer - Doubtful and concerns as to how his program and psychological methods would work with pro athletes but heís got an eye for talent and running disciplined systems on both sides of ball.


Don't like Rhule or Richard.

Harbaugh is interesting but there is NFW he and DG could co-exist. NFW.

Meyer could be just like Jimmy Johnson. His only downside is his health.
My three:  
Anakim : 11/10/2019 9:58 pm : link
Gary Kubiak
Matt Rhule
Greg Roman
One more thing...  
bw in dc : 11/10/2019 10:02 pm : link
Urban Meyer is a tremendous talent evaluator and wouldn't near Gettlemen's input. So DG would have to go...
RE: You left off  
Anakim : 11/10/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14673925 Mike in NY said:
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Steve Belichick


The fascination with him is one of the oddest things I've ever seen on BBI (and that's really saying something). I understand who his father is, but who knows if he has a modicum of his father's football knowledge. Just because his father is the greatest coach of all-time doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a good coach. I mean look at the Shulas. Hell, what happened to a meritocracy?
RE: Not a valid list without this guy  
Anakim : 11/10/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14674054 Marty866b said:
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Clay Helton.


I just threw up in my mouth a little bit
And the obligatory canadate that dresses every time coaching change  
micky : 11/10/2019 10:06 pm : link
Kirk Furentz
DG has to go with any of these guys  
Oscar : 11/10/2019 10:08 pm : link
No major coaching candidate is going to want 68 year old Gettleman buying the groceries and making roster decisions. He should really just retire but thatís not going to happen.

My fear is they actually do fire Shurmur but end up hiring someone whoís willing to accept this structure thatís in place and work for DG. And weíll be in the same spot in 2-3 more years.
RE: And the obligatory canadate that dresses every time coaching change  
Anakim : 11/10/2019 10:09 pm : link
In comment 14674116 micky said:
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Kirk Furentz


I remember Ferentz was a name in 2003 after Fassel was fired. The names tossed around were Coughlin, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Bob Stoops and Kirk Ferentz.
RE: RE: And the obligatory canadate that dresses every time coaching change  
bw in dc : 11/10/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14674128 Anakim said:
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Kirk Furentz



I remember Ferentz was a name in 2003 after Fassel was fired. The names tossed around were Coughlin, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Bob Stoops and Kirk Ferentz.



Have you watched any Iowa games this year? They have some decent talent on that OL and on D.
Steve Belichick  
Oscar : 11/10/2019 10:13 pm : link
Has been a Patriots coach for seven years, been on multiple Super Bowl staffs, calls their defensive plays and learned directly from Bill. I donít know if heís ready but Iíd be willing to take a shot.

I sincerely doubt he would be interested in the Giants as things are currently organized. Itís not a very appealing situation to come in and be told that Gettleman is your GM, Chris Mara has joint authority over personnel and Abrams is the GM in waiting, and thatís that.
We're long overdue for a defensive head coaching hire  
Torrag : 11/10/2019 10:19 pm : link
Our once proud tradition of defense and toughness lies shredded in disgrace. I'm fed up with teams gutting us week in and week out.
RE: RE: You left off  
BH28 : 11/10/2019 10:24 pm : link
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Steve Belichick



The fascination with him is one of the oddest things I've ever seen on BBI (and that's really saying something). I understand who his father is, but who knows if he has a modicum of his father's football knowledge. Just because his father is the greatest coach of all-time doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a good coach. I mean look at the Shulas. Hell, what happened to a meritocracy?


He's the DC for the best defense in the league. Yes, he's calling the plays. McVay was an OC for what, two years before becoming a head coach? A whopping 8 years of coaching experience compared to Steve's 7 years.

And if you want to talk about family names, I guess Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay only got their jobs because of their names and prior family history?

Since the Mara's love half measures, I think he's a name to consider as DC when they fire all the assistants but somehow Shurmur survives. They when they fire Shurmur a year late, maybe he's in consideration for for the top job.
RE: RE: RE: And the obligatory canadate that dresses every time coaching change  
Anakim : 11/10/2019 11:26 pm : link
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Kirk Furentz



I remember Ferentz was a name in 2003 after Fassel was fired. The names tossed around were Coughlin, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Bob Stoops and Kirk Ferentz.




Have you watched any Iowa games this year? They have some decent talent on that OL and on D.


For sure. Epenesa, Wirfs, Alaric Jackson...
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Anakim : 11/10/2019 11:28 pm : link
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Steve Belichick



The fascination with him is one of the oddest things I've ever seen on BBI (and that's really saying something). I understand who his father is, but who knows if he has a modicum of his father's football knowledge. Just because his father is the greatest coach of all-time doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a good coach. I mean look at the Shulas. Hell, what happened to a meritocracy?



He's the DC for the best defense in the league. Yes, he's calling the plays. McVay was an OC for what, two years before becoming a head coach? A whopping 8 years of coaching experience compared to Steve's 7 years.

And if you want to talk about family names, I guess Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay only got their jobs because of their names and prior family history?

Since the Mara's love half measures, I think he's a name to consider as DC when they fire all the assistants but somehow Shurmur survives. They when they fire Shurmur a year late, maybe he's in consideration for for the top job.


And you don't think Lil' Bill has anything to do with that? Look at all the coordinators who come from the Belichick tree and how far they went. Bill O'Brien is like the lone exception and even he's not that great.
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BH28 : 11/11/2019 1:30 am : link
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Steve Belichick



The fascination with him is one of the oddest things I've ever seen on BBI (and that's really saying something). I understand who his father is, but who knows if he has a modicum of his father's football knowledge. Just because his father is the greatest coach of all-time doesn't mean he has what it takes to be a good coach. I mean look at the Shulas. Hell, what happened to a meritocracy?



He's the DC for the best defense in the league. Yes, he's calling the plays. McVay was an OC for what, two years before becoming a head coach? A whopping 8 years of coaching experience compared to Steve's 7 years.

And if you want to talk about family names, I guess Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay only got their jobs because of their names and prior family history?

Since the Mara's love half measures, I think he's a name to consider as DC when they fire all the assistants but somehow Shurmur survives. They when they fire Shurmur a year late, maybe he's in consideration for for the top job.



And you don't think Lil' Bill has anything to do with that? Look at all the coordinators who come from the Belichick tree and how far they went. Bill O'Brien is like the lone exception and even he's not that great.


That's not what you said. You wrote him off because of his last name as if someone suggested Chris Mara should be head coach. Nobody would be suggesting him if the Pats defense was garbage.

But it's tops in the league and on pace to be up there with the 2000 Ravens. BB doesn't seem to be the nepotism type so I think it's impressive he thinks so highly of his son and as of right now the results are showing.

Hiring any coach from a successful program is going to have it's risks; I don't think Steve should be written off because of his name, coaching tree, or age. At least bring him in and see what he has to say. A lot of these young guys are holding their own in the league. No retreads.
Jay Gruden once the Skins fire him.  
BlueLou'sBack : 11/11/2019 2:19 am : link
He had the Redskins leading the NFC east for what, half a season last year? The first half of the season! And he wanted Daniel Jones as the Skins next QB.

Lift him out of the quagmire he coaches in now; he's a pro.
RE: Jay Gruden once the Skins fire him.  
Jim in Tampa : 11/11/2019 5:17 am : link
In comment 14674431 BlueLou'sBack said:
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He had the Redskins leading the NFC east for what, half a season last year? The first half of the season! And he wanted Daniel Jones as the Skins next QB.

Lift him out of the quagmire he coaches in now; he's a pro.

Lou... Jay Gruden doesn't coach the 'Skins anymore. He was fired weeks ago.
RE: Whoever it needs has to be a leader not a schemer or play caller.  
djm : 11/11/2019 7:28 am : link
In comment 14673961 robbieballs2003 said:
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They need to put this team in the best position to succeed. That means communicating his vision, hold everybody accountable, prepare for all situations, knows how to evaluate talent and knows what talent he needs for his team, how to manage a clock, brings in the best coaches, etc.


Yes
I haven't a clue,  
section125 : 11/11/2019 7:40 am : link
but like was mentioned above, whomever would have to accept DGs power football mentality if DG stays. So they'd be wedded to that, not that I think that is bad watching the Cowboys line.
What Does It Matter  
Jeffrey : 11/11/2019 8:26 am : link
if you don't change the GM too. Bring in a team --GM, coach and assistants that can grow together. DG has proven nothing to warrant the belief that he should pick the next coach. He has definitely hit on some draft choices, but when you drafting 2nd and 6th it is pretty hard to miss. Besides the 2018 class aside from Rounds 1 and 2 is very much still up in the air. Draft choices playing on an atrocious team does not necessarily mean that the kid is a good pick.
I'd take a swing at Lincoln Riley,  
Section331 : 11/11/2019 8:26 am : link
but if he passes, either Greg Roman or Robert Saleh. Roman is really intriguing, and has had success with 2 franchises in building good, run-based offenses. FWIH, he's a no-nonsense guy.

Rhule is an interesting choice, had success with a perennially bad Temple team, and has rebuilt Baylor. His Giants background does suggest that he could be a lead candidate, but we could do a lot worse.
RE: I'd take a swing at Lincoln Riley,  
bw in dc : 11/11/2019 8:31 am : link
In comment 14674629 Section331 said:
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but if he passes, either Greg Roman or Robert Saleh. Roman is really intriguing, and has had success with 2 franchises in building good, run-based offenses. FWIH, he's a no-nonsense guy.

Rhule is an interesting choice, had success with a perennially bad Temple team, and has rebuilt Baylor. His Giants background does suggest that he could be a lead candidate, but we could do a lot worse.


Riley is making $6M/yr at Ok.

Do you think Mara would come close to that number? I saw NFW.
I like  
Scott in Montreal : 11/11/2019 8:34 am : link
Dan Campbell or Duce Staley

Then hire Jack Del Rio to come in as the DC to bring some old school toughness and fire into the locker room.
If the Giants actually *do* fire Shurmur  
Ryan in Albany : 11/11/2019 8:42 am : link
knowing how the Giants do things, their next hire will probably be Mike Smith. Wasn't he in the running last go round?
RE: RE: Rhule  
montanagiant : 11/11/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14674055 bw in dc said:
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as we've said on BBI before, Rhule checks many boxes for how the Giants operate. Granted he was only with them for 1 season. But Fassel was with the Giants for 2 seasons and Coughlin for 3 as assistants.

Rhule has had to rebuild a disgraced Baylor program from literally nothing and has gotten them back to a winning program.

That he secretly interviewed with the Colts tells me that he was ready to take his chance at the NFL, but didn't feel Indy was the right fit. He's going to be the hot candidate and you never know how things will work out in Baylor if they struggle next year and his star fades.



Uh, Baylor has NEVER has problems attracting players. Ever. They weren't in the SMU zone...

Baylor was a doormat until 2010
i like the idea  
AndyMilligan : 11/14/2019 11:54 pm : link
of Greg Roman
I want a guy thats been a HC for years  
Dankbeerman : 11/15/2019 11:06 am : link
preferably not a retread and a guy with stout deffensive teams and physical offensive game plan.

1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. Ferentz

If available

Tomlin

Would consider Richard and maybe he can brjng in Dan quinn as DC so he can focus on being HC



Give the patriots a draft Choice and hire Bill B  
INDYJIM : 11/15/2019 2:15 pm : link
give him a 5 year contract give him complete control - scouting, front office and he serves as coach for three years, he grooms his successo. I was watch his video on a football life (part one) and look at his reaction when he visits the old giants stadium fro the last time.

RE: If the Giants actually *do* fire Shurmur  
Anakim : 11/15/2019 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14674674 Ryan in Albany said:
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knowing how the Giants do things, their next hire will probably be Mike Smith. Wasn't he in the running last go round?


Yeah he was. I could see them hiring that milquetoast type like Mike Smith, John Fox, Marvin Lewis or Chuck Pagano
I'm not familiar with a lot of the names on that list, especially  
Brown Recluse : 11/15/2019 3:08 pm : link
the college candidates...but I have a sinking feeling they will go hard after Mike McCarthy.

Mara seems to have absolutely no idea what to look for and will go for the safe hire. I don't really think McCarthy is a great coach though and would say he owes Aaron Rodgers a lot for the success he had in Green Bay.
I donít get the irrational dislike of McCarthy  
twostepgiants : 11/15/2019 5:08 pm : link
The guy posted 9 consecutive winning seasons

I donít care that he had Aaron Rodgers

Having watched Pat Shurmur coach for 1.5 seasons, does anyone really believe that if Pat Shurmur had Aaron Rodgers that he can have 9 consecutive winning seasons and win a Super Bowl?

Sustained success is more than one player, even if that player is Aaron Rodgers.
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