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Is it Still a "Media Conspiracy" That We Suck?

Tesla : 11/10/2019 10:50 pm
Those were some fun threads. Remember the outrage that ESPN had us listed as the second worst team in the league in their initial power rankings? One poster actually said there needed to be "consequences for the media" saying we suck. CONSEQUENCES!

Guess what.....the national media was 100% correct in their assessment of this team.
Fake news.  
Daniel in MI : 11/10/2019 10:55 pm : link
We're awesome. Best 2-8 team ever.
There  
lax counsel : 11/10/2019 10:58 pm : link
Never was a media conspiracy. It was and still is willful blindness and deflection away from a franchise by a select few posters in the minority who are the loudest ones on BBI. These are the same posters who show up on most threads continuing to dig in and blast anyone who suggests the Giants are terrible and have made awful decisions the past near decade.

I do remember that one “consequences” thread by one poster, of course that poster is in the loud minority I previously mentioned.
I liked the  
jcn56 : 11/10/2019 10:58 pm : link
'we're better as underdogs' crowd myself. You know, those scrappy Giants were going to prove everyone wrong!

If only the media understood  
MickeyRibs : 11/10/2019 10:58 pm : link
the genius of our GM. This is all part of the plan. Check his resume.
I thought the Giants would be better than they are  
81_Great_Dane : 11/11/2019 1:55 am : link
But I think it’s pointless to get worked up over preseason power rankings. The team will be what it will be. Too bad they were right.
I also remember  
santacruzom : 11/11/2019 3:18 am : link
The reaction to that Zac Shomler guy saying we'd go 5-11. And that reaction was not the "That hack is giving us way too much credit" reaction that would have been justifiable in hindsight.
No, it's not a media conspiracy.  
BlueLou'sBack : 11/11/2019 3:39 am : link
It's an NFL referees' conspiracy against the Gmen.
If your pt is  
joeinpa : 11/11/2019 7:06 am : link
There s not a lot of objectivity here on BBI, we already knew that, but it s not specific to the loud minority you reference.

If you ve ever checked out a game thread, you d have to agree
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christian : 11/11/2019 7:20 am : link
Don't worry. The media is sleeping on the Giants. You're going to be surprised.

Watch out for the Manning revenge tour. The underrated offensive weapons. The upgraded offensive line. The MVP Barkley season.
"If you can't see that Gettleman has improved this team  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 7:24 am : link
than I don't know what to tell you. Some guys on here just want to be miserable fuksticks".
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ajr2456 : 11/11/2019 8:24 am : link
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than I don't know what to tell you. Some guys on here just want to be miserable fuksticks".


Those posts were fun
The bitching about the media threads always suck  
mfsd : 11/11/2019 8:26 am : link
but so do I told you do threads.
The media's reaction to the Jones pick was the most over the top  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 8:28 am : link
reaction I've ever seen to a draft pick.

And it drove even posters here, many whom are media parrots, to unhinged levels.

Conspiracy? No. Irresponsible "journalism"? Yes.
But I am flattered that my musings on a football message board....  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 8:30 am : link
have made such a lasting impact on some that you still think of them many months later.
Don't play the martyr, it was a bunch of posters  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 8:34 am : link
although the "Eli Manning is going to make all his critics eat a shit sandwich this season" was a bit memorable...
The "consequences"  
eugibs : 11/11/2019 8:38 am : link
thread is the best thread of the year and it's not close. I also believe if you go back and look at that thread, the impetus for the call to arms was someone in the media comparing the current state of the Giants to the current state of the Jets. In that poster's world, that poor media person would have spent the last 6 months in a work camp for wrongthink, and yet the Giants got pushed all around the field by the Jets yesterday. The whole time he was just speaking truth to power in a Giants police state.
What consequences thread?  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 8:47 am : link
Revive it if able...
RE: The media's reaction to the Jones pick was the most over the top  
eugibs : 11/11/2019 8:48 am : link
In comment 14674635 Britt in VA said:
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reaction I've ever seen to a draft pick.

And it drove even posters here, many whom are media parrots, to unhinged levels.

Conspiracy? No. Irresponsible "journalism"? Yes.


Dude, the impetus for that thread wasn't even something someone said about Daniel Jones. It was a Giants-Jets comparison.

Also, saying other people are "unhinged" in response to being called out on a thread where you basically advocated for civil unrest in response to media criticism of the (now 2-8) football Giants, is pretty rich. Just take the "L" and move on.
RE: But I am flattered that my musings on a football message board....  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/11/2019 8:49 am : link
In comment 14674640 Britt in VA said:
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have made such a lasting impact on some that you still think of them many months later.

I think the rah-rahs need to check themselves or be put in check.
RE: RE: But I am flattered that my musings on a football message board....  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2019 8:51 am : link
In comment 14674698 Gatorade Dunk said:
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have made such a lasting impact on some that you still think of them many months later.


I think the rah-rahs need to check themselves or be put in check.


Sure. BBI is a much better place when posters have a pitchfork in one hand and a "How to GM for Dummies" book in the other hand.

The number of future NFL GM's on BBI grows by the day.....
RE: RE: RE: But I am flattered that my musings on a football message board....  
lax counsel : 11/11/2019 8:58 am : link
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have made such a lasting impact on some that you still think of them many months later.


I think the rah-rahs need to check themselves or be put in check.



Sure. BBI is a much better place when posters have a pitchfork in one hand and a "How to GM for Dummies" book in the other hand.

The number of future NFL GM's on BBI grows by the day.....


I hear ya, BBI is just better place when the loud minority shows up to blast anyone who dare suggests the giants are a dysfunctional franchise and all posters fall in line. Gotta love 49-73 since 46, the franchise must be doing something right with glowing numbers like that!!
RE: RE: RE: But I am flattered that my musings on a football message board....  
ajr2456 : 11/11/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14674707 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have made such a lasting impact on some that you still think of them many months later.


I think the rah-rahs need to check themselves or be put in check.



Sure. BBI is a much better place when posters have a pitchfork in one hand and a "How to GM for Dummies" book in the other hand.

The number of future NFL GM's on BBI grows by the day.....


Maybe it will start to shrink when the team has a competent one.
RE: RE: RE: But I am flattered that my musings on a football message board....  
eugibs : 11/11/2019 9:00 am : link
In comment 14674707 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have made such a lasting impact on some that you still think of them many months later.


I think the rah-rahs need to check themselves or be put in check.



Sure. BBI is a much better place when posters have a pitchfork in one hand and a "How to GM for Dummies" book in the other hand.

The number of future NFL GM's on BBI grows by the day.....


Yeah, not all of us can be as smart as you and Dave Gettleman (but I repeat myself).
The idea  
ajr2456 : 11/11/2019 9:01 am : link
That criticizing a team that has been bad for nearly a decade gets characterized as being a wanna be GM.

We should all just wait for Gettlemans plan to all come together in 2024
RE: The idea  
lax counsel : 11/11/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14674740 ajr2456 said:
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That criticizing a team that has been bad for nearly a decade gets characterized as being a wanna be GM.

We should all just wait for Gettlemans plan to all come together in 2024


You didn’t hear, the plan was always to draft the more mobile Peyton Manning and bigger Barry Sanders. It’s a trick he kept away from every other GM. Shhh, don’t tell anyone.
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christian : 11/11/2019 9:05 am : link
The more I read BBI, the more I think there is a contingency that thinks the words posted here actually have a magical effect in the real world.
I think the last several posts covered the "playing GM-thing" comment  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 9:06 am : link
just fine, unless you want to pivot to something like the goalposts keep changing regarding the criticism...
Almost better than the media being unfair threads  
ron mexico : 11/11/2019 9:24 am : link
are all the comments on how likable this team is, how easy to root for. What a weight has been lifted after all the bad apples got shipped out.
Maybe we left a few bad apples in the lockerrooom?  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 9:28 am : link
Lets sign Jonathan Stewart to a new $4M guaranteed deal just to make sure...
The..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/11/2019 9:30 am : link
irony is the word minority in here:

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I hear ya, BBI is just better place when the loud minority shows up to blast anyone who dare suggests the giants are a dysfunctional franchise


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lax counsel : 11/11/2019 9:33 am : link
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irony is the word minority in here:



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I hear ya, BBI is just better place when the loud minority shows up to blast anyone who dare suggests the giants are a dysfunctional franchise




49-73
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eugibs : 11/11/2019 9:38 am : link
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irony is the word minority in here:



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I hear ya, BBI is just better place when the loud minority shows up to blast anyone who dare suggests the giants are a dysfunctional franchise






49-73


Lax - nobody here is saying they are happy with the Giants performance. No one here has taken any bows for the successful rebuild or defended the the results on the field. It's just that every Giants decision over the last two years from sticking with Eli Manning, to drafting Saquon Barkley, to resigning Sterling Shepard has been the correct one. No one is defending anything that happens on the field. Let's be perfectly clear about that. Just try not to criticize any of the major decisions or key players on the team, when making your point that the results are unacceptable.
Did someone really  
Les in TO : 11/11/2019 9:54 am : link
Suggest there needed to be “consequences” for a media company predicting the Giants would be the second worst team??? What consequences were they referring to? A lawsuit? A boycott? Lol

People can hate on espn all you want but they were right. The Giants are bottom feeders. The giants did not use that as motivation to kick ass this year en route to 10-6. They can’t block and they can’t defend shit. The acquired talent on the line and on defense have been massive disappointments.
RE: The..  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 10:14 am : link
In comment 14674832 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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irony is the word minority in here:



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I hear ya, BBI is just better place when the loud minority shows up to blast anyone who dare suggests the giants are a dysfunctional franchise




Yes, it appears your band of never-ending Defenders are shrinking in numbers as of late...
RE: RE: The media's reaction to the Jones pick was the most over the top  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 10:18 am : link
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reaction I've ever seen to a draft pick.

And it drove even posters here, many whom are media parrots, to unhinged levels.

Conspiracy? No. Irresponsible "journalism"? Yes.



Dude, the impetus for that thread wasn't even something someone said about Daniel Jones. It was a Giants-Jets comparison.

Also, saying other people are "unhinged" in response to being called out on a thread where you basically advocated for civil unrest in response to media criticism of the (now 2-8) football Giants, is pretty rich. Just take the "L" and move on.


It was about the Daniel Jones pick. At least the one I'm remembering, because I wrote it. Check the date. They were going apesh-t over the Jones pick.

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You posted  
Les in TO : 11/11/2019 10:54 am : link
Another thread about how the relentless media criticism would fuel the Giants and cause them to kick ass this year.

But the thread you posted above was equally bizarre in that you ranted at “the media” who needed to be put in check when

1. Many media outlets just reported on the pick and didn’t provide analysis or opinions.
2. Some analysts on media channels supported the pick
The Media conspiracists on BBI continued to wallow  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 10:54 am : link
in self pity all thru the summer to the anti-Giant themes.

Any article, tv show or tweet (or BBI poster) that didn't portray the NY Giants as an up-and-coming team on the rise was blasted and criticized as having an alternative agenda. "If you couldn't see how much better the Giants were in Aug 2019 under Gettleman versus the previous years than you just don't know football" were the comments.

The lack of objectivity on here got so bad that even positive articles and comments made about how good Daniel Jones was performing in preseason games were portrayed as not being measured because they also noted positives about the other rookie QBs, or taken as slams against Eli Manning in comparison.

If you trace those BBI conspiracy posts back, you will find their devices logged in somewhere behind the fence on a grassy knoll in Dallas, TX...

RE: You posted  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 11:02 am : link
In comment 14675095 Les in TO said:
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Another thread about how the relentless media criticism would fuel the Giants and cause them to kick ass this year.

But the thread you posted above was equally bizarre in that you ranted at “the media” who needed to be put in check when

1. Many media outlets just reported on the pick and didn’t provide analysis or opinions.
2. Some analysts on media channels supported the pick


I posted in reference to the Daniel Jones pick. I stand by it. Especially against the take that taking Jones over Haskins was racist. That is irresponsible journalism and at the crux of my argument.
In regards to hoping that the media negativity would....  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 11:03 am : link
"fuel" the lockerroom and cause them to play with a chip on their shoulder?

Sure, I hoped that. It didn't. I was wrong. I have no problem saying I was wrong and it didn't happen.

But I don't regret hoping it, or posting it. It just didn't work out that way.
RE: In regards to hoping that the media negativity would....  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 11:08 am : link
In comment 14675125 Britt in VA said:
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"fuel" the lockerroom and cause them to play with a chip on their shoulder?

Sure, I hoped that. It didn't. I was wrong. I have no problem saying I was wrong and it didn't happen.

But I don't regret hoping it, or posting it. It just didn't work out that way.


Yep, just like I was wrong in suggesting the NY Giants were going to shed themselves of Eli several years ago because he wasn't ever going to be a winning QB for them anymore.

Sure, I hoped that. They didn't. I was wrong. I have no problem saying I was wrong and it didn't happen.
I don't understand your point.  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 11:09 am : link
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Oh boy,  
section125 : 11/11/2019 11:10 am : link
I guess we are all supposed to be in awe that ESPN guessed something close to correct?

I am I supposed to be ashamed?

What is the point of this thread?
RE: RE: You posted  
Les in TO : 11/11/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14675117 Britt in VA said:
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Another thread about how the relentless media criticism would fuel the Giants and cause them to kick ass this year.

But the thread you posted above was equally bizarre in that you ranted at “the media” who needed to be put in check when

1. Many media outlets just reported on the pick and didn’t provide analysis or opinions.
2. Some analysts on media channels supported the pick



I posted in reference to the Daniel Jones pick. I stand by it. Especially against the take that taking Jones over Haskins was racist. That is irresponsible journalism and at the crux of my argument.
Cris Carter and Stephen A Smith are not journalists. They are shock jocks who spout loud opinions for entertainment . To paint all media with the same brush because of knuckleheads like them or Francesca or Bayless is not reasonable. Gil Brandt Greg Cosell Kurt Warner and Shaun O Hara all are part of the “media” and approved the pick. If you wanted to call out Smith and Carter for those views I would totally support that position.
If you want to sit here and debate with me.....  
Britt in VA : 11/11/2019 11:29 am : link
that there wasn't a massive overreaction to the Daniel Jones pick by most of the people in the media, calling Dave Gettleman basically a buffoon for taking Jones at 6 when he most assuredly would have been there at 17....

Then I'll just agree to disagree. The reaction was over the top.
If you want to have some fun...  
Tesla : 11/11/2019 11:31 am : link
here are the two threads about ESPN ranking us 31st in their pre-season power rankings.

Arc was so irate he promised to never post on BBI again if the Giants finished 31st in the league this year.

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=586598&show_all=1

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=586189
That's funny as shit...  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 12:20 pm : link
love the BBI commentary on those threads that ESPN should be held accountable for those inaccurate rankings...
RE: If you want to have some fun...  
Les in TO : 11/11/2019 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14675221 Tesla said:
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here are the two threads about ESPN ranking us 31st in their pre-season power rankings.

Arc was so irate he promised to never post on BBI again if the Giants finished 31st in the league this year.

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=586598&show_all=1

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=586189
lol arc can have a mulligan. I like him. Also kudos to cjac and Joey for their vision
ooof  
ron mexico : 11/11/2019 12:38 pm : link
RE: defense vs offense
arcarsenal : 8/30/2019 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14551596 giantfan2000 said:
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They certainly are in the midst of a rebuild, given the amount of overall roster turnover as compared to two years ago, but those two players aren't what signifies it.



they were the leadership of the defense .. now Defense has no-one but jackrabbit
you might think Landon Collins was not worth the contract but he was a leader of defense .. it is intangible that was not replaced this year


Antoine Bethea disagrees with you.
The Calls  
lax counsel : 11/11/2019 1:37 pm : link
For ESPN to be held responsible are quite amusing. How exactly should they be held responsible? Drawn and quartered in the public square? One of the other threads is basically a call to arms against the media.
RE: The Calls  
Les in TO : 11/11/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14675587 lax counsel said:
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For ESPN to be held responsible are quite amusing. How exactly should they be held responsible? Drawn and quartered in the public square? One of the other threads is basically a call to arms against the media.
Amusing but also frightening
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