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That little tidbit tells you why the Giants are 2-8..

deegee1 : 11/10/2019 11:22 pm
Pulled this from Apple News... If true Shurmur is going to get Jones killed..

How about Eric Smith?

And maybe not in the way that you think.

Smith, a third-year player who had been with the Miami Dolphins and Jets previously, had never played an NFL snap before entering the game when Nate Solder left in the second quarter with a concussion. Smith, in fact, had never dressed for a game before Sunday.

Smith struggled mightily with stunts and twists and was responsible for at least two, if not more, of the six sacks Daniel Jones endured.

But ... before you rip Smith here is something to consider.

The Giants claimed Smith on waivers Sept. 1. The 24-year-old said after the game that “at no point” since becoming a Giant had he prepared to play left tackle, other than doing individual work on his own. Smith said that with Nick Gates starting at right tackle he had prepped all week to be replace Gates at jumbo tight end and hand’t taken any live reps at left tackle since preseason with the Jets.

Smith said he didn’t know the coaches were even talking to him to enter the game when Solder got hurt.

“I’ve been preparing to be the tight end ... I didn’t know Nate was out ... I didn’t think they were talking to me (to go in the game).”

How, when you know that Nick Gates has to start at right tackle and that Smith will be your swing tackle in the game, does he not get any preparation at the position during the week? Or any preparation at that position all season?

Yes, his play was a mess. How, though, could it have been expected to be otherwise when he had not been prepared to play the position he was asked to play. In his first-ever NFL action, no less.

That little tidbit tells you a whole lot perhaps about why the Giants are 2-8 and often look unprepared.
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I think Shurmur sucks  
Joey in VA : 11/11/2019 7:25 am : link
But this is pretty normal from a practice perspective. Solder would get all the reps at LT, Smith practicing in Gates' spot makes perfect sense. Then Solder gets hurt and what do you do? You take the swing tackle or third TE, who practiced with the first team, and put him out there. Him not realizing that as the third OT he would be pressed into action in the case of an emergency just means he's a fucking moron. Who else would you use at LT in that case? Someone who didn't work with the starters that week? No that would be idiotic. I don't like anything about this coaching staff or team but this is pretty normal from a practice standpoint.
RE: I think Shurmur sucks  
Eli Wilson : 11/11/2019 7:37 am : link
In comment 14674523 Joey in VA said:
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But this is pretty normal from a practice perspective. Solder would get all the reps at LT, Smith practicing in Gates' spot makes perfect sense. Then Solder gets hurt and what do you do? You take the swing tackle or third TE, who practiced with the first team, and put him out there. Him not realizing that as the third OT he would be pressed into action in the case of an emergency just means he's a fucking moron. Who else would you use at LT in that case? Someone who didn't work with the starters that week? No that would be idiotic. I don't like anything about this coaching staff or team but this is pretty normal from a practice standpoint.


It wasn't just this week. He has not taken a live rep at LT since being signed by the Giants on Sep 1.
RE: RE: I think Shurmur sucks  
Joey in VA : 11/11/2019 7:59 am : link
In comment 14674536 Eli Wilson said:
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It wasn't just this week. He has not taken a live rep at LT since being signed by the Giants on Sep 1.
Line drive...and a base hit right over Wilson's head!!
Well if this type of thing  
joeinpa : 11/11/2019 9:20 am : link
Isn’t the norm, and hard to believe it could be, that s a pretty daming reflection on the mantra,”paying attention to detail “
You all said you wanted Solder out of there  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 9:22 am : link
so now what?

I'll value  
crick n NC : 11/11/2019 9:24 am : link
What Joey said.
This made absolutely no sense  
Jay on the Island : 11/11/2019 9:26 am : link
Why on earthy did they activate him over Chad Slade who was above him on the depth chart and also played LT in the preseason???
time to feed this to the beat reporters  
BigBlueCane : 11/11/2019 9:28 am : link
and see who makes the most use of it.
RE: This made absolutely no sense  
AcidTest : 11/11/2019 9:45 am : link
In comment 14674821 Jay on the Island said:
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Why on earthy did they activate him over Chad Slade who was above him on the depth chart and also played LT in the preseason???


I was surprised he was active instead of Slade for that reason. It's puzzling. I thought they'd go with Brown and Slade as the backups.
RE: Playing without Shepard and Engram and without 3 starters on the ol  
MotownGIANTS : 11/11/2019 9:52 am : link
In comment 14674450 Ira said:
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(one of whom had no business playing left tackle) Jones had a good game. If anyone had any doubts before today, it should be clear that we have our starting quarterback.


But for how long???? This is a disaster waiting to happen!
RE: time to feed this to the beat reporters  
GiantEgo : 11/11/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14674827 BigBlueCane said:
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and see who makes the most use of it.


It's been out there Pat Traina and Chris Bisignano have been talking about this since last night.
Maybe Remember The Titans was on this week  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/11/2019 9:55 am : link
and he was inspired by Petey going in and killing it at cornerback mid-game?

Seriously though... What a disgrace.
ouch, yea thats  
Rory : 11/11/2019 11:31 am : link
terrible preparation.

I supported Shurmur for the sake of consistency within the organization for Jones development but this has me unsure now.
That little tidbit..........  
johnboyw : 11/11/2019 8:37 pm : link
Here's the long and short of it.

Two years ago the Giants, by virtue of their stellar 2-14 record, had the #2 pick. This past year, they had #6. Very marginal progress. At this moment, they would pick #3 in 2020. A Giant step backwards. This is a franchise that is tanking. Terrible coaches and too many marginal players. Shurmer is no head coach and Bettcher is no NFL coach. Until they get rid of these two clowns and unload some deadwood, they'll be 2-14 every year.
How can the Giants organisation allow this to happen?  
Fishmanjim57 : 11/11/2019 9:41 pm : link
Shurmur and Gettleman should be fired as soon as possible.
During the bye week they could make someone the interim coach, while they search for a new GM.
The GM could be named by the end of the season, then the GM could hire a new staff of coaches for next season.
Shurmur will go down in Giants history as the worst coach to ever stand on the sidelines.
This organisation is shameful to allow this type of behaviour happen, especially to a rookie quarterback.
I really hope the fans let the Giants brass know that we want changes made!
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