...far and away the #1 question that management needs to ask:
Do you see Daniel Jones as the QB you can win with, or do you need to go in another direction this upcoming Draft with Justin Herbert, Tua Tagovailoa, Jake Fromm, Joe Burrow, Jacob Eason or someone else?
IMO, it may all boil down to this:
Do the Giants go with the very best Head Coaching candidate who is given the choice of who should be the starting QB going forward, or do the Giants seriously consider only those Head Coaches willing to stay the course with a still-developing Daniel Jones?
That sounds about as bad a plan as John Mara could cook up and he has cooked up some real bad ones over the last 7 years
What will you need and what will you do to fix our Oline?
How will you get our defense back to the LT, Banks, Carson, Johnson, Strahan, Tuck, Kiwi, Osi, JPP days!
We’re gonna end up with a guy who’s just happy to get a shot and doesn’t really care how dysfunctional they are.
he has put together more 4 TD games in a short stretch (behind the worst OL in football) than Eli did in... well not since 2015 I think.
So, not that we can expect 6 TDs per game with an improved OL, but you will see continued improvement and likely fewer fumbles.
Mix in better play calling and I think there is a lot to be optimistic about when it comes to Jones
Will any quality candidate want to work with that?
That being said, I’m hard pressed to think any legit football talent evaluators wouldn’t love jones at this point. I think the better question is how do we not waste all the cap space flexibility on Jones rookie deal. I don’t want Gettlemen making those decisions.
But Jones can really fit any scheme (he'd work with Kingsbury, for example) so I don't see this being an issue in the grand scheme of things.
No more tail wagging dog. No personnel-related interview questions that have a disqualifying answer.
The decision-making process has been lacking, at best, for some time.
Our next head coach needs to know how to manage the game. He needs to have coordinators who can teach.
I am not sure about the whole staff but, Bettcher seems like a good coach but doesn’t have enough talent to run his complicated scheme. He needs to simplify it.
Hal Hunter is not getting the line to play as one. They look unorganized and clueless.
Shurmur needs to let Shula call plays justcto mix it up. He has some good play design but the shotgun formation 90% of the time is not working
Do it, now
The questions need to revolve around OL and development and coaching. They need to be around in game management and defensive schemes and offensive philosophy.
We have a headcoach who would ace questions about a QB. He can't seem to gameplan or 'coach up' his players. He doesn't give us an any advantage at all in ANY aspect of the game.
We need a head coach who can get the right position coaches to game plan, teach, develop and prepare as well as adjust.
No need to be sorry. And you didn't miss any story. The question I posed is based upon WHEN the Giants approach new Head Coaching candidates, not that they already have. Although, would you be shocked if they have quietly made a few discreet inquiries?
Agreed!
I think the far bigger question for potential HC's is how this organization makes decisions.
It's not really about questioning Daniel Jones. After all, he has done some very nice things with a limited cast, even with all the crazy, scary, fucked-up fumbling.
IMO, there are two questions:
(1) Who is the very best Head Coach we can replace Pat Shurmur with; and,
(2) Do we allow him to have the QB he needs to implement the system he wants to run?
Assuming Pat Shurmur is gone after this season, these questions need to be asked-and-answered BEFORE the 2020 NFL Draft.
If the very best Head Coach is convinced he'll do fine with Daniel Jones, all the better!
IMO, there are two questions:
(1) Who is the very best Head Coach we can replace Pat Shurmur with; and,
(2) Do we allow him to have the QB he needs to implement the system he wants to run?
1) I don't know.
2) No. DJ is the Giants QB. Period. If he doesn't like it then he doesn't come.
New coaches don't get the keys to the kingdom. That's why there is a GM.
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IMO, there are two questions:
(1) Who is the very best Head Coach we can replace Pat Shurmur with; and,
(2) Do we allow him to have the QB he needs to implement the system he wants to run?
1) I don't know.
2) No. DJ is the Giants QB. Period. If he doesn't like it then he doesn't come.
New coaches don't get the keys to the kingdom. That's why there is a GM.
I'm not as dogmatic about Daniel Jones as you are.
2. In light of one, it would take some massive cojones to come in and try to convince the Giants FO that an unproven college player is a safer long term bet. Maybe if Peyton or Luck were sitting there, but I don't think any of these prospects are quite at the prospect level those 2 were. Maybe Tua is, but he's likely going #1 overall.
3. I know all the excuses, but Rosen was flat out awful last year. In 8 games Jones already has 30% more TD passes than Rosen had all last year. And Rosen was even worse this year before getting benched. And aside from Rosen, I can't remember another instance where a team went QB in the 1st in back-to-back years. Hell, I'd be surprised if the 'Skins do it and Haskins hasn't exactly lit things up (SSS).
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I'm not as dogmatic about Daniel Jones as you are.
It's not dogmatic. If a new coach came in, given what DJ has shown this season, and wanted to replace him you'd have to think you're taking to the wrong guy. It wouldn't be e refection on Jones's talent it would be a reflection on the coach and his judgment.
DJ has shown plenty of flashes of high level QB play for a rookie despite some really bad lows.
Its going to be DJ for another few years. They invested a high first in him and they take that very seriously.
I think any NFL HC candidate will believe in himself enough to feel he can get the most out of any group of players.