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Field Yates on the Giants "running game"

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/11/2019 9:18 am
Field Yates @FieldYates

Giants RB Saquon Barkley had -13 rushing yards before contact on Sunday, the fifth-fewest by a player since ESPN began tracking it in 2007. He was contacted at or behind the line of scrimmage on 11 of 13 runs. The Jets dominated the Giants up front Sunday.
So much for our 'revamped' OL...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/11/2019 9:20 am : link
What a disaster this team is.
Well, at least the OL Coach has two runs  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 9:20 am : link
that he can use this week to show what they did right...
To throw salt in the wounds  
ron mexico : 11/11/2019 9:21 am : link
the Jets did that without Leonard Williams
This team is a total  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/11/2019 9:23 am : link
Shit Show

Are we any closer to winning now than when DG took over? We need so much on both sides of the ball...

Didn't DG say he "fixed" the OL after he traded for Zietler?

Unreal
A team can do many things when they can run the ball  
Rjanyg : 11/11/2019 9:23 am : link
This is our biggest problem. Gettleman needs to fix this. Start by hiring a OL coach.

OL continues to be our biggest problem compounded by poor offensive game plan. We never run with power and it is getting old.
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GiantEgo : 11/11/2019 9:27 am : link
When Barkley was healthy Shurmur couldn't pull him off the field often enough, now that he's injured he can't seem to get enough Barkley. The guy is just a monumentally bad coach.
Injuries  
jeff57 : 11/11/2019 9:31 am : link
But they weren’t a lot better with all the regulars.
Shurmur is a guy who needs perfection  
jvm52106 : 11/11/2019 9:39 am : link
for everything to work. It is an almost successful in spite of themselves. Why can't we run more designed rollouts? Why do we telegraph our runs but at the same time run motion as deception that nobody believes. Why is Barkley not be run on sweeps and quick hitters more? Why isn't Gallman in more to help change up the nature of our runs?

Until yesterday the Giants  
arniefez : 11/11/2019 9:41 am : link
were the only team in the NFL that started the same 5 OL every game this year. Didn't help the first 9 weeks.
SO  
cokeduplt : 11/11/2019 9:42 am : link
much for all the posters blaming Barkley
But Barkley  
Darth Paul : 11/11/2019 9:43 am : link
Is hesitant and needs to run North/South. A real running back would have gained yards yesterday...or so I heard on BBI.
Are we sure Gettleman  
Metnut : 11/11/2019 10:46 am : link
is the right guy to fix the OL? He took over an awful OL, and after 2 years, it hasn't gotten any better. The moves made this offseason are going to be stuck to the team for the next 4-5 years.

We need to be sure we have the right GM in place during this critical period.
RE: To throw salt in the wounds  
trueblueinpw : 11/11/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14674800 ron mexico said:
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the Jets did that without Leonard Williams


Bahahahaha! I didn't even think of this until I read it here. You're right. What a fucking shit show. The fish rots from the head down.
when you lose  
fkap : 11/11/2019 10:52 am : link
3 bad OL starters, it isn't all that surprising that the backup were even worse.
'So much for our 'revamped' OL... '  
Torrag : 11/11/2019 11:14 am : link
Yeah all two of our normal starters were awful against the NFL's #6 rated run defense coming into the game. Haha.

Yeah we aren't good up front. We all know that already.
RE: So much for our 'revamped' OL...  
Rory : 11/11/2019 11:26 am : link
In comment 14674793 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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What a disaster this team is.


Remmers and Halapio were declared out and Solder was taken out in the 1st qtr for a concussion.

Think that might have to do with it?

do your research
Was expecting  
darren in pdx : 11/11/2019 11:32 am : link
it with the injuries, an already poor OL having to replace three starters and a RB obviously not looking right. Let’s see if the bye gives Barkley to heal up. Still makes no sense they don’t try to get him passes out in space, and not just in the flats with three defenders sitting there.
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idiotsavant : 11/11/2019 11:40 am : link
Robert Turner Jr - is rbs coach at 49ers and was w shanny Jr at Falcons before that. 24 years in coaching .

Chris Morgan is at Falcons as the OL coach and I believe was with shanny there prior to the move to 9ers.

This is a rational system that blends run and pass.

Maybe Chris as OC and Robert at quality control or assistant HC.

Let them choose and direct the new OL coach and draft one more rb to fit.
The sad thing  
pjcas18 : 11/11/2019 11:43 am : link
is I really didn't notice a difference in the OL without Halapio, Remmers and Solder.

looked pretty similarly shitty with Pulley, Gates and Thomas.

Or visa versa  
idiotsavant : 11/11/2019 11:45 am : link
. Plus they hire and direct the rb coach as well.

If shurms willing to let them run the show and build his pass game into their system let him stay.

But he doesn't seem like he would.
RE: The sad thing  
japanhead : 11/11/2019 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14675260 pjcas18 said:
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is I really didn't notice a difference in the OL without Halapio, Remmers and Solder.

looked pretty similarly shitty with Pulley, Gates and Thomas.


jones holds onto the ball longer than almost any quarterback in the league, at least in the games that i watch. that doesn't help. he also can't seem to sense pressure and slide/move accordingly to buy extra time, despite being touted as mobile. that doesn't help either. barkely is obviously not right, and probably shouldn't be on the field. that isn't helping either.

watch how quick most other quarterbacks get rid of the ball. watch what happens when they don't. whether that is squarely on jones, or whether it is on the overall design of the plays in shurmur's offense is the only question.
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Banks : 11/11/2019 12:53 pm : link
it's sad that this line appears much worse than the 2nd half of last year. I don't know how that is possible. Shurmur may eventually have a winning team, but I'm confident in saying he isn't a good coach at this point. I expected a losing season. I expected 6-10, but I thought there would be improvement and more competitive. We actually have a worse team this year imo.
RE: RE: The sad thing  
2cents : 11/11/2019 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14675461 japanhead said:
[quote] In comment 14675260 pjcas18 said:


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is I really didn't notice a difference in the OL without Halapio, Remmers and Solder.

looked pretty similarly shitty with Pulley, Gates and Thomas.




jones holds onto the ball longer than almost any quarterback in the league, at least in the games that i watch. that doesn't help.

pretty sure this is a tracked statistic, would love to see the official timing on this.
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