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Barkley still hurt... you can see it on this play

GloryDayz : 11/11/2019 6:44 pm
On the 22 yards catch & run, Copeland tries to tackle him, grabs his ankle, SB breaks the tackle but skips in an awkward way, seemingly in pain, after the attempted tackle.

You can see it at about the 2:09 min mark in the link.

Not as clear, but after he's pushed out of bounds appears to be favoring that foot.

At this point... he's hurting the team more than he's helping.

If its still an issue after the bye, they need to sit him out. There's nothing to be gained, & hopefully they're not risking making it worse.
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Yea but pretty obvious  
Chris684 : 11/11/2019 6:47 pm : link
Don’t worry though, some morons here think an all world RB all of a sudden can’t play anymore overnight.
Yup. Noticed it right  
McNally's_Nuts : 11/11/2019 6:48 pm : link
away.

Saw this yesterday  
dune69 : 11/11/2019 6:53 pm : link
live and on replay. He's definitely hobbled. He's a tough kid. Hope he can't do any further damage.
He's part of the future.  
truebluelarry : 11/11/2019 6:53 pm : link
They should put him in bubble wrap until 2020. Its pointless to play him another down this season.
Giants would be idiots  
Marty866b : 11/11/2019 6:55 pm : link
To let him play when it's so obvious that he is limited due to injury.
RE: Saw this yesterday  
GloryDayz : 11/11/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14676205 dune69 said:
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live and on replay. He's definitely hobbled. He's a tough kid. Hope he can't do any further damage.


I cant believe, at least I hope, they're not dumb enough to risk making things worse short/long term.

But even if medically they dont think it could get worse... the way he's playing he's more a liability than an asset. Just stupid
He better be hurt  
Rflairr : 11/11/2019 7:07 pm : link
Because you don’t belong on the field, if you get run over on blitz pickups like that.
Maybe Daniel Jones  
Junior22 : 11/11/2019 7:11 pm : link
fumbling is due to him injured. Maybe the whole defense is injured.
if barkley is still so injured that he is a net negative  
japanhead : 11/11/2019 7:15 pm : link
to his team, then why the fuck is he on the field? give the snaps to gallman and look under every rock for a viable third RB or get a bit creative with using the fullback. it's just moronic to keep trotting barkley out there in his current state. he is a liability and has been since he first came back.

i respect him wanting to gut it out, but it's just not working. shurmur should have been smart enough to realize this a couple weeks ago.
If he's hurt than please  
RobCrossRiver56 : 11/11/2019 7:25 pm : link

Play someone who can pass block..
All world RBs all of sudden can't play if they play hurt too long  
Youtoo : 11/11/2019 7:33 pm : link
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Don’t worry though, some morons here think an all world RB all of a sudden can’t play anymore overnight.


If they keep playing him while he is hurt, he will no longer be an all world RB. This is what happened to Hakeem Nicks. They need to shut him down.
Tough kid. But this is what happens to running backs  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 7:34 pm : link
because they take so many blows, and therefore it should go into your calculus as to their overall value proposition..
Barkley and the line  
SadbutTrue82 : 11/11/2019 7:36 pm : link
Not only is it clear he's hurt but the bigger problem is his pass blocking wasn't great when healthy and now that he's less its a noticeable problem. I could understand if he was running well but behind that line he's not able to give you much of anything and his current level and with the way they use him (running straight up the gut) it's a waste. Hopefully the time off gets him closer to himself but without a decent line healthy or not wont make a difference.
Barkley's character is beyond reproach, but I question his judgement  
CT Charlie : 11/11/2019 8:00 pm : link
in coming back before he was fully healed. Being "cleared to play" is one level of fitness, but being ready to be the best all-purpose back in the league (okay, running & catching, not blocking) is different. Even at 80% of full fitness, he was probably less useful than Gallman.
Barkley got hurt  
crick n NC : 11/11/2019 8:27 pm : link
On a play where any player could get hurt. It wasn't from repeated "blows".

He jumped and came down awkwardly on his ankle.
Its affecting his Pass Blocking as Well  
BobA : 11/11/2019 8:34 pm : link
I don't remember him being this bad last year. I think he can't plant his foot and they are running over him. He is too big to be run over by DB's.
It's very easy  
DRich1980 : 11/11/2019 8:42 pm : link
To see that he is still hurt if you know how he ran before he got injured Saquan is not cutting on a dime like he was before the injury he also is not stopping and starting like before I think they should put him on IR for the rest of the season because the Giants are done
Clearly Barkley is not 100%  
KeoweeFan : 11/11/2019 8:56 pm : link
and the team is not going to the playoffs. This is a great time to give Wayne Gallman significant playing time.

At worst you find out there is one more hole to fill (#2 RB) for next year, but the upside is you may discover a good 1 -2 combination (with SB as the feature back) that would save some wear and tear on Saquan.

(Gallman's liability compared to other major college backs was speed; he led all the "elite" RBs in yards after contact; but eventually the faster DB/LBs would catch up with him. He still had 3,429 rushing yds and 34 touchdowns. In goal line and short yardage situations he was money; a very good 3rd down receiver.)

The other benefactor may be Jones; whether it is because of experience or health, in my opinion Wayne is more solid in pass protection.
According to Shurmur he's fine  
Blue21 : 11/11/2019 9:05 pm : link
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RE: Clearly Barkley is not 100%  
HomerJones45 : 11/11/2019 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14676315 KeoweeFan said:
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and the team is not going to the playoffs. This is a great time to give Wayne Gallman significant playing time.

At worst you find out there is one more hole to fill (#2 RB) for next year, but the upside is you may discover a good 1 -2 combination (with SB as the feature back) that would save some wear and tear on Saquan.

(Gallman's liability compared to other major college backs was speed; he led all the "elite" RBs in yards after contact; but eventually the faster DB/LBs would catch up with him. He still had 3,429 rushing yds and 34 touchdowns. In goal line and short yardage situations he was money; a very good 3rd down receiver.)

The other benefactor may be Jones; whether it is because of experience or health, in my opinion Wayne is more solid in pass protection.
nonDC gives a shit about Gallman. At that point, they play the passing game. That does not benefit Jones.
RE: Barkley got hurt  
Jimmy Googs : 11/11/2019 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14676288 crick n NC said:
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On a play where any player could get hurt. It wasn't from repeated "blows".

He jumped and came down awkwardly on his ankle.


Oh so nothing happened this past Sunday to make that and his shoulder get banged up too?

Lord...
Shurmur will play him and play him a lot  
BestFeature : 11/12/2019 12:22 am : link
But don't worry next season when he's healthy and had 120 yards on 10 carries he'll lose him on the bench.
Coach  
Giant John : 11/12/2019 4:44 am : link
If he is hurt and you would know SIT HIM DOWN.
This knucklehead coach isn't going to sit him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/12/2019 7:27 am : link
He's too busy desperately trying to avoid blowout losses.
RE: RE: Barkley got hurt  
crick n NC : 11/12/2019 7:50 am : link
In comment 14676462 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14676288 crick n NC said:


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On a play where any player could get hurt. It wasn't from repeated "blows".

He jumped and came down awkwardly on his ankle.



Oh so nothing happened this past Sunday to make that and his shoulder get banged up too?

Lord...


His shoulder injury came from repeated blows?
that wasn't anything related to the injury  
jlukes : 11/12/2019 7:54 am : link
it was a sort of jump-step juke. He does that sort of move even when he isn't hurt

No doubt he isnt 100%, but that wasn't a reaction to being hurt.
RE: that wasn't anything related to the injury  
Johnny5 : 11/12/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14676659 jlukes said:
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it was a sort of jump-step juke. He does that sort of move even when he isn't hurt

No doubt he isnt 100%, but that wasn't a reaction to being hurt.

I agree with this, I remember on the live feed after he broke that tackle, he was doing that Walter Payton-esque high leg thing. It got me pumped actually... lol. Also agree he is not 100% for sure but yeah he did that step on purpose.
One thing that makes you take notice  
NikkiMac : 11/12/2019 8:32 am : link
Is that Jones is much better when he doesn’t pat the ball....... he’s learning
Wow, so many medical experts on BBI  
averagejoe : 11/12/2019 8:38 am : link
that know better than the Giants team doctors. He is playing because he is healthy. Try to digest that. He is playing very badly. He got run over by Adams because Adams was playing all out and he is not. He is running and blocking very passively. Maybe it's not because he is hurt but because he doesn't want to extend himself anymore and risk injury. This is also a possibility.
RE: RE: RE: Barkley got hurt  
Jimmy Googs : 11/12/2019 8:40 am : link
In comment 14676648 crick n NC said:
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In comment 14676462 Jimmy Googs said:


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In comment 14676288 crick n NC said:


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On a play where any player could get hurt. It wasn't from repeated "blows".

He jumped and came down awkwardly on his ankle.



Oh so nothing happened this past Sunday to make that and his shoulder get banged up too?

Lord...



His shoulder injury came from repeated blows?


Blow, blows...??

It didn't happen touching God's hand....
I don't understand  
crick n NC : 11/12/2019 8:44 am : link
Your answer. Just seems like more snark. Oh well
RE: Wow, so many medical experts on BBI  
GloryDayz : 11/12/2019 9:02 am : link
In comment 14676708 averagejoe said:
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that know better than the Giants team doctors. He is playing because he is healthy. Try to digest that. He is playing very badly. He got run over by Adams because Adams was playing all out and he is not. He is running and blocking very passively. Maybe it's not because he is hurt but because he doesn't want to extend himself anymore and risk injury. This is also a possibility.


Players play hurt often... sometimes it’s noticeable sometimes not so much. That’s a given in the NFL. Playing the way he’s been, coming off an injury leaves little doubt IMO.... he’s hurt and he’s not very effective.

It’s up to you if you want to believe that or not. But the alternative is he is healthy, but by some weird act of God, he suddenly regressed.
What is confusing yet again with you?  
Jimmy Googs : 11/12/2019 9:09 am : link
He got hurt because running backs take a lot of hits and are tackled to the ground every time they touch the ball. And they are tackled more than anybody else...
RE: What is confusing yet again with you?  
crick n NC : 11/12/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14676773 Jimmy Googs said:
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He got hurt because running backs take a lot of hits and are tackled to the ground every time they touch the ball. And they are tackled more than anybody else...




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