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Brian Cashman said he’s had several conversations with the agents of Didi Gregorius and Brett Gardner. He also said the Yankees want to shore up their starting rotation and that they have interest in Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg, among others.
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Asked of his interest in Cole and/or Strasburg, Brian Cashman said: “Of course were going to talk to Strasburg, we’ll talk to Cole, we’ll talk to the higher-end guys, clearly. We’ll also talk about some surprise guys, I’m sure … Anybody would have interest in players like that.”
Cashman's comments on Cole, Strasburg, and the luxury tax were refreshing yesterday.
...I believe he brings a lot to this team beyond his play on the field and his at-bats.
The same, of course, can be said of Brett Gardner.
Would love to have them both back.
I'm hoping at least one is back.
If it's just one, it'll probably be Gardner.
Cashman's comments on Cole, Strasburg, and the luxury tax were refreshing yesterday.
Cashman needs to follow through though. Are they "in" on Cole or are they in on Cole at 5/$100, because I think just about every team in the game would be in on him if the pricetag is low enough (which it won't be).
Detroit wants a impact bat would Clint Frazier and two mid range prospects get it done?
Cashman's comments on Cole, Strasburg, and the luxury tax were refreshing yesterday.
Per the Post, Bard leaving was not a surprise. He wanted a job closer to his home in Colorado.
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If the Yankees are able to land Cole or Strausburg (particularly Cole because he would take him from Houston), they are the prohibitive favorites to win the World Series.
It's likely a pipe dream, but the Indians owner all but came out and said they won't be able to re-sign him, so maybe they try to cash in on him now. I would pay whatever it takes in prospects to get that guy. Absolute stud.
I think its pure ROI to talk up the prices for others.
Often, when the recent era Yankees have signed big...its been stealth until the end game
It's likely a pipe dream, but the Indians owner all but came out and said they won't be able to re-sign him, so maybe they try to cash in on him now. I would pay whatever it takes in prospects to get that guy. Absolute stud.
I view Lindor as unlikely. But, I could definitely see him ending up with LAD, and if he does, something with Seager to NYY would be attractive.
I'm looking to pair Lindor with Gleyber up the middle. I agree that Cleveland asks for Gleyber right off the bat. I'm not doing that, agreed there. Gleyber, Judge, and Severino are off the table for me. Everyone else would be in play in those potential trade talks, prospect or ML.
I don't see why middle IF wouldn't be a spot where they splurge. Gleyber's ability to play SS certainly gives them a solid back-up plan at the position and having DJ back for another season provides versatility. But if Lindor is on the table, we should be in the discussions.
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I'm curious to see what the Indians do with Lindor. Are they shopping him now, two seasons out from free agency? And do we have any chance at compiling a prospect package that could interest Cleveland?
It's likely a pipe dream, but the Indians owner all but came out and said they won't be able to re-sign him, so maybe they try to cash in on him now. I would pay whatever it takes in prospects to get that guy. Absolute stud.
I view Lindor as unlikely. But, I could definitely see him ending up with LAD, and if he does, something with Seager to NYY would be attractive.
Interesting thought. LAD certainly has the more realistic prospect/young ML package they could offer for Lindor but they've shot down all comers on Lux to this point. Seager with two more years of control as well. That'd be quite a three teamer. Certainly unlikely, but fun to think about.
However, I agree with Greg that it is unlikely that Hal/Cash go for the $250+ mil starting pitcher. Those days are probably behind us.
Looking beyond just this season though, DJ is a free agent after next season. No guarantee he's here long term. He's also a potential full-time 1B option in 2020. I respect your opinion of course, but I see middle infield as a need this offseason.
I’d rather see what the new pitching dept can do for Loaisiga, Montgomery, and maybe even Garcia and King than investing 250M + on a pitcher. Who knows, maybe the low A studs will be knocking on the door sooner rather than later.
There is no salary cap in baseball - only (mostly financial) penalties for going over luxury tax. Why wouldn't any Yankee fan want us to go out and spent a ton to get Gerrit Cole???
Go after Cole and Strasburg. Make sure to sign one of them.
Make a play for Lindor.
Get rid of Happ and find a way to lead the league in SGP (starting games played).
Fans should be rioting over the Yankees refusal to put more $$$ back into the team.
When the onlookers believed they had decoded the signs, the expected pitch would be communicated via a loud noise — specifically, banging on a trash can, which sat in the tunnel. Normally, the bangs would mean a breaking ball or off-speed pitch was coming.
There's a lot more but I think that's all I can post here.
Yankees payroll was essentially the same in 2019 as it was in 2002. It went up from 2018 because they cut it dramatically that year to get under the luxury tax.
Lindor is an incredible player but it seems like it would definitely take too much to get him and while we would be a better team with him, do we really improve that much with him? It doesn’t seem like that’s an area of need all that much. Also wouldn’t Gleyber at short and DJ at second be a better situation than resigning Didi? Obviously this past year shows that you need depth, but 99% of the time any team that suffers the amount of injuries we just dealt with would never get anywhere near as far as we did.
Obviously I’d rather see the Yankees roll the dice on paying Cole or Strasburg no matter the cost but that doesn’t seem likely anymore. We have decent pitching and I think guys like Tanaka or even Paxton to an extent are better than they get credit for. I’d love still love to see Cole on the Yankees, but I expect Cashman to go after players like DJ and Gio and a bunch of bullpen guys. My biggest fear is that Cashman lets how a lot of his acquisitions worked out last year go to his head and think he can do it again. It’s probably a stupid fear but I can’t help but sort of expect him to sign a bunch of mid tier guys and expect them to over perform/strike gold. That’s probably negativity carried over from the Giants though.
Your'e one of (if own the) best posters on the Yankee threads, but that's just an awful take.
The Red Sox penalty for going over the tax and winning the 2018 World Series was to move back 10 spots in the draft. You can't seriously be arguing that's why their farm system sucks?
I'm sure most Yankees fans would be happy to trade a WS in 2020 for moving back 10 spots in the draft the following year.
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Agreed. However, they made some really poor trades for starters. The issue was their inability to develop starters of their own - much like ours to a degree.
Hope Klapisch is wrong.
FWIW, Kay says he doesn't think they will sign either Cole or Strasburg.
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This is not a small market team; if you think you are close, you bite the bullet and go get the piece or two you need to go over the top. There is no "window". The window opens and closes every season. You never know when the players you count on get hurt (see Judge), or have a down year (see Betts) so you have to go for it. Do the Yankees win it this year if they had made the Greinke deal or Bauer or made offered a deal with the Nats for Strasburg(who were sucking pond water at one point this season and may have been enticed to deal)?
Pitching for the Mets probably has something to do with that. They’ve had mostly terrible defense and until this season, mostly bad offenses. Oh, and inept managers.
I think Wheeler will flourish with a change of scenery
Nice comparison. deGrom is only the best pitcher in baseball.
I’ve never heard one person on this board say he was elite. That’s just you making shit up.
Now I don't know if the new guy and the staff can do for Wheeler what Houston did for Cole(and Verlander), but maybe they can.
Tesla and Homer - the Yanks have a good system, even after all the trades because they were smart with their trades and protected their draft slots. While I would love to have Cole or Strasburg, but you have to remember that Judge, Sanchez, Torres eventually will be getting paid, sooner than later.
You make decent points that the Yanks should be using their monetary muscle to get the top players. But they could end up with a $300+ mill payroll and who knows what happens to their draft and IFA monet down the road.
Eh, just threw it out there...I'm certain that they hired these guys to get someone like Wheeler(who is underperforming) and get the best of him.
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There was no doubt in my mind that Baldelli would win - just because he wasn't managing the Yankees...he is worthy because he did a great job with the Twins. But did he manage better than Boone with 30 starters on IL(well you know the story.
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Why give it to the manager that handed the other his lunch all year(I know PS doesn't count). And the small market little engine that could argument is BS when half our payroll spends the year on the IL.
There was no doubt in my mind that Baldelli would win - just because he wasn't managing the Yankees...he is worthy because he did a great job with the Twins. But did he manage better than Boone with 30 starters8 on IL(well you know the story.
Absolutely. In my life I can't remember a Yankee winning a post season award that was tightly contested. Ever.
Damned right. Not only should they force that cheating scum to hand over the award, they should make him do it on national television
That's just not true. The Yankees farm system was not based on the success of their first round picks. It was based on guys they signed internationally, mid-round picks that developed and guys they traded for. In fact with one notable exception the Yankees have gotten nothing from their first round picks:
Take a look at their first round picks going back to 1995.
2018 Anthony Seigler catcher Cartersville high school
2017 Clark Schmidt RHP Chaminade College Prep
2016 Blake Rutherford OF Chaminade College Prep (West Hills, Calif.) 18
2015 James Kaprielian RHP UCLA 16
2015 Kyle Holder SS San Diego 30
2013 Aaron Judge OF Fresno State 32
2013 Ian Clarkin LHP Madison High School, San Diego, Calif. 33
2013 Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame 26
2012 Ty Hensley RHP Edmond Santa Fe (Okla.) High School 30
2010 Cito Culver SS Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y. 32
2009 Slade Heathcott OF Texas HS, Texarkana, Texas 29
2008 Gerrit Cole RHP Orange (Calif.) Lutheran H.S. 28
2007 Andrew Brackman RHP North Carolina State 30
2006 Ian Kennedy RHP Southern California 21
2005 Carl Henry SS Putnam City HS (OK) 17
2004 Philip Hughes RHP Foothill HS, Santa Ana, CA 23
2003 Eric Duncan 3B Seton Hall Prep (NJ) 27
2001 John-Ford Griffin OF Florida State U 23
2000 David Parrish C Yorba Linda, CA 28
1999 David Walling RHP U. of Arkansas 27
1998 Andrew Brown OF Richmond, IN 24
1997 *-Tyrell Godwin OF Elizabethtown, NC 24
1996 Eric Milton LHP U of Maryland 20
1995 Shea Morenz OF U of Texas 27
If the Yankees are able to land Cole or Strausburg (particularly Cole because he would take him from Houston), they are the prohibitive favorites to win the World Series.
My thoughts as well.
In fact, he only got 2 of a possible 8 first place votes from writers of the other AL East teams.
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Tesla and Homer - the Yanks have a good system, even after all the trades because they were smart with their trades and protected their draft slots.
That's just not true. The Yankees farm system was not based on the success of their first round picks. It was based on guys they signed internationally, mid-round picks that developed and guys they traded for. In fact with one notable exception the Yankees have gotten nothing from their first round picks:
Take a look at their first round picks going back to 1995.
2018 Anthony Seigler catcher Cartersville high school
2017 Clark Schmidt RHP Chaminade College Prep
2016 Blake Rutherford OF Chaminade College Prep (West Hills, Calif.) 18
2015 James Kaprielian RHP UCLA 16
2015 Kyle Holder SS San Diego 30
2013 Aaron Judge OF Fresno State 32
2013 Ian Clarkin LHP Madison High School, San Diego, Calif. 33
2013 Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame 26
2012 Ty Hensley RHP Edmond Santa Fe (Okla.) High School 30
2010 Cito Culver SS Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y. 32
2009 Slade Heathcott OF Texas HS, Texarkana, Texas 29
2008 Gerrit Cole RHP Orange (Calif.) Lutheran H.S. 28
2007 Andrew Brackman RHP North Carolina State 30
2006 Ian Kennedy RHP Southern California 21
2005 Carl Henry SS Putnam City HS (OK) 17
2004 Philip Hughes RHP Foothill HS, Santa Ana, CA 23
Thanks for that. Now, how many of those guys were traded for players that were either MLB players or played part in trades that brought players that played on the Yankees.
As to the Yanks, Judge, Kennedy, Hughes played for the Yanks. Kaprielian, Clarkin, Jagielo and Rutherford were pieces in trades. Schmidt and Siegler are still in the system with a future.
And those are the ones I know about. And for whatever reason some of the pitchers did not develop because of a weakness in the system. Some teams are better at developing players(Rays, Dodgers, Braves). I think Cash is working hard to improve the system.
But I'm not dismissing your point, it has some merit. Bird in hand is worth two or three in the farm system .
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Bird in hand is worth two or three in the farm system .
Bird hasn't worked out as hoped, but injuries are unpredictable.
Milton, it is a saying, a bird in hand is worth two in the bush....
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Heard some of Cashman’s comment on Fatso’s show, lots of touch and feelie stuff, and doesn’t sound like he intends on making big splashes.
Heard some of Cashman’s comment on Fatso’s show, lots of touch and feelie stuff, and doesn’t sound like he intends on making big splashes.
I got a different impression. He sounded more to me like he was reluctantly ready to say goodbye to guys like Didi and Gardner, which tells me that he plans on accepting some austerity in filling out the lineup in order to make an earnest attempt at Cole.
Just my read.
I think it's also a function of the fact that the hitters in the system are almost exclusively J2 kids that they challenge with some (appropriately, IMV) aggressive assignments. These are really young kids, and 2018 could easily be just a bump in the road, non-linear progression, etc.
Granted, Dune is more of the glass is half full guy on the system whereas I am more of where is the fucking glass guy....
It’s mighty interesting they’ve made a lot of changes to the coaching staff. Maybe they should look at Oppenheimer and the scouts instead.
Who are in the BA top 10 for us BTW?
I actually thought Cash was going to win this year.
I think balance and tons of depth are what we are going to see for the next five years.
Balance as in contact and power hitters. Fastball and variety pitchers in the starting ranks. Lots more emphasis on defensively capable players.
And patience. Lots of Yankee "names" at all levels need to re prove in late spring and up until the deadline.
I don't think we see this years Death Star until July