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NFT: Knicks chat: Fizdale may change lineup again

nygiants16 : 11/12/2019 3:47 pm
Says he is looking at matchups and what combinations work...

Smith is available to play tonight...

This is why fizdale should be fired, 10 games in and can not settle on a lineup
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Timmy just keeps chucking.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2019 10:12 pm : link
What a horrific player.
RE: Luka might cry over fouls.  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14679679 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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But he's insane. Trae Young might be a great player, but he's never going to be Luka.


oh he is an amazing player
so i thought the rule was 30 seconds  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:14 pm : link
that wasnt 30 seconds?
Doncic to me is like Sidney Crosby  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:14 pm : link
Incredible player but a massive bitch
Mitch fouls out.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2019 10:28 pm : link
Dude has to figure out how to stay on the damn court.
No wayyyyy  
Anakim : 11/14/2019 10:30 pm : link
.01 on the shot clock and they do that? NO FUCKING WAY
how can he shoot that with .1?  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:30 pm : link
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Bahahahaha....only the Knicks  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:31 pm : link
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Porzingis with a Greg Paulusesque flop  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:35 pm : link
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Of course  
Anakim : 11/14/2019 10:36 pm : link
Have DSJ take the final shot. No, solid plan there...
Dennis Smith does what he does  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:36 pm : link
Passes on an open 3 to take a long contested 2 instead
no boxout from ntlikina  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:38 pm : link
come on man
And Smith had RJ open  
shyster : 11/14/2019 10:38 pm : link
no interest in passing.
Way to go Frenchy!  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:39 pm : link
Let Seth fuckin Curry blow by you for a outback. Inspiring stuff.
RE: And Smith had RJ open  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14679704 shyster said:
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no interest in passing.


there was 1 second on the shot clock
Seth Curry crashing the offensive glass.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2019 10:39 pm : link
That's humiliating. Frank and Morris - two excellent defenders - stand there watching him.
Quick whistle there  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:40 pm : link
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BOOST THAT STOCK, MM!  
Anakim : 11/14/2019 10:41 pm : link
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he shoot to much man  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:41 pm : link
fizdale is a morom for running the offense through randle and morris, he is ruining the young kids
ugh gotta make free throws  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:44 pm : link
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Ain't much to ruin with Frank  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:44 pm : link
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I think the mavs are going to regret that contract to KP  
Giantfan21 : 11/14/2019 10:48 pm : link
Hes not a franchise player but hes being paid like 1
I know we hate the front office and fizdale  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:50 pm : link
but that was a satisfying win
RE: I think the mavs are going to regret that contract to KP  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14679714 Giantfan21 said:
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Hes not a franchise player but hes being paid like 1


i am sorry i attacked you, i shouldnt of wasnt fair
RE: I know we hate the front office and fizdale  
Anakim : 11/14/2019 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14679715 nygiants16 said:
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but that was a satisfying win


Indeed
I'll take it.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2019 10:52 pm : link
Sweep the Mavs. Beat reporters have to save their smartass tweets for next season.
What was satisfying about it?  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2019 10:53 pm : link
Because they beat Porzingis? Whoopee. Unlike most of you, I don't bear him any ill will for wanting to escape this horror show.
RE: RE: I think the mavs are going to regret that contract to KP  
Giantfan21 : 11/14/2019 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14679716 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14679714 Giantfan21 said:


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Hes not a franchise player but hes being paid like 1



i am sorry i attacked you, i shouldnt of wasnt fair


Its alright thanks
If we only win 10 games all year I would have  
Carl in CT : 11/14/2019 10:55 pm : link
Picked those two against the Mavs as part of the 10.
That was a fun game  
steve in ky : 11/14/2019 10:56 pm : link
If they can only keep up the intensity and win a few in a row now
RE: What was satisfying about it?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/14/2019 10:57 pm : link
In comment 14679720 Greg from LI said:
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Because they beat Porzingis? Whoopee. Unlike most of you, I don't bear him any ill will for wanting to escape this horror show.


It might not have been a horror show if he actually played in some damn games. Fuck him and his bitch ass brother.
RE: What was satisfying about it?  
Giantfan21 : 11/14/2019 10:57 pm : link
In comment 14679720 Greg from LI said:
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Because they beat Porzingis? Whoopee. Unlike most of you, I don't bear him any ill will for wanting to escape this horror show.


Generally i care more about player development then chasing meaningless wins but in this particular instance, beating KP is satisfying so i dont have to sit and hear how great KP is and how big of a mistake the knicks made in trading him.

Things are bad enough around the knicks but the narrative that KP is a superstar is a bad one. The guy is probably the most overrated player in the league right now. Luka carries the team by himself while KP sits at the 3 point line and all the advanced metrics say they are a better team when he is off the court
KP doesn't seem to fit with Luka at all  
moespree : 11/14/2019 11:03 pm : link
Luka certainly doesn't appear to look at him as a co-superstar. I get no impression of that.

Won't be long until KP wants out of there too.
I liked the bench unit tonight  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 11:08 pm : link
with smith dotson knox portis mitch, portis and mitch played well next to each other and with portis, knox and dotson the floor was spread for the lob to mitch..

Smith is at his best when he is attacking in space
RE: I think the mavs are going to regret that contract to KP  
djm : 11/14/2019 11:28 pm : link
In comment 14679714 Giantfan21 said:
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Hes not a franchise player but hes being paid like 1


Can we at least slow down this talk of contracts always being so detrimental to a team? Look maybe KP fails to deliver in Dallas but Dallas is better with KP than without and he might be excellent for them. Franchise player? Ok, maybe he is maybe he isn’t but he got a double double tonight while blocking shots.

Everything is about the money now. We can’t even properly analyze a player’s worth anymore. This guy is overpaid and that guy is overpaid. The better question or debate is was the team better off with or without the player in question but instead every debate resorts to how overpaid the guy might be.
RE: RE: I think the mavs are going to regret that contract to KP  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14679736 djm said:
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In comment 14679714 Giantfan21 said:


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Hes not a franchise player but hes being paid like 1



Can we at least slow down this talk of contracts always being so detrimental to a team? Look maybe KP fails to deliver in Dallas but Dallas is better with KP than without and he might be excellent for them. Franchise player? Ok, maybe he is maybe he isn’t but he got a double double tonight while blocking shots.

Everything is about the money now. We can’t even properly analyze a player’s worth anymore. This guy is overpaid and that guy is overpaid. The better question or debate is was the team better off with or without the player in question but instead every debate resorts to how overpaid the guy might be.


actually so far the mavs are better with him off the floor..

KP is a number 2, him and doncic will eventually become a very dynamic duo, but right doncic does it by himself
Really fun win.  
Jon in NYC : 11/14/2019 11:49 pm : link
I think Frank will level off an be a really good backup PG in the NBA. He isn't a starter but he can close games and make a real impact with his defense.
Marcus Morris said  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2019 11:54 pm : link
he has never experienced a crowd like that before, also said he thought kp was a little rattled to start the game..

KP again made it sound like there was more than just him wanting to leave..
At least Frank is bringing aggression every night.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2019 11:55 pm : link
Well, defensively at least. He and Mitch need to cure these foul woes though - maybe they’ll get more respect from the refs as they gain vet status.
RE: At least Frank is bringing aggression every night.  
nygiants16 : 11/15/2019 12:02 am : link
In comment 14679766 bceagle05 said:
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Well, defensively at least. He and Mitch need to cure these foul woes though - maybe they’ll get more respect from the refs as they gain vet status.


Frank is the best defender in the league against pick and rolls..

Did you hear what he said postgame? apparently he told fizdale he is ready and understands what he has to do and has the confidence now to do it..

sonpostgame he was asked what does he have to do to take the nrxt step, he says he has to be a dog on the court...i wonder who has been in his ear
Didn't Dennis Smith  
xman : 11/15/2019 12:22 am : link
do well?
Mitch has to be smarter.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2019 12:27 am : link
He fouled out of the game on the worst moving screen in the history of the sport.
RE: Didn't Dennis Smith  
Del Shofner : 11/15/2019 12:31 am : link
In comment 14679815 xman said:
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do well?


Couldn't watch the game (was on the road) but from the box score it looks like Smith was decent, really the first time this year.
RE: I liked the bench unit tonight  
Del Shofner : 11/15/2019 12:33 am : link
In comment 14679729 nygiants16 said:
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with smith dotson knox portis mitch, portis and mitch played well next to each other and with portis, knox and dotson the floor was spread for the lob to mitch..

Smith is at his best when he is attacking in space


again, missed tonight's game but from the box score it seems like the whole second unit was pretty solid tonight.
I still think that there is a decent chance...  
manh george : 11/15/2019 2:07 am : link
that Smith comes around well enough to either start, or be a very solid back-up. Smith with 8 assists and only 2 TOs was huge. We still need to if he can shoot at all, but he might. I would love it if he could start, and let Frank be an important back-up.
Porzingis is still the same soft guy  
arniefez : 11/15/2019 8:06 am : link
he was for the Knicks. He wanted no part of that game yesterday. His skills are unique and surrounded by the right players with 2 other stars he can be a big piece of a championship team. Dallas has one and it will never be enough. I know he's still knocking some rust off but that wasn't the issue.
Wow...  
LS : 11/15/2019 8:12 am : link
I was reading through the game comments and figured the Knicks must have been getting their asses handed to them. Then found out they won? Incredible.
Was really surprised how Smith played  
Heisenberg : 11/15/2019 8:44 am : link
He was aggressive but under control penetrating to the basket. Was active, if not great, on D. Really got teammates some good shots. Best pure PG performance the Knicks have gotten all year (not high bar, but encouraging).

Frank had foul trouble and his typical shooting woes but he was the only defender who was able to really affect Luka at all.

Randle was rugged but they really can't play him as the "point forward". Terrible with turnovers last night. They can't do this bit where they have him dribble penetrate. He's not LeBron.

RJ's scoring slump continues but he found ways to contribute with passes and really solid rebounds.

Morris' ability to score is impressive.

Fun game and the crowd was electric.
Also, shout out to Taj for being a calm vet presence out there  
Heisenberg : 11/15/2019 8:54 am : link
with young guys and hot heads like Randle. He had a lot of good rebounds and is a smart player
It’s a crime that Fizdale hasn’t developed Smith and Robinson one bit.  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/15/2019 9:27 am : link
Smith was able to get into the paint and make good passes when there was a little traffic. Thus far I am surprised that he hasn’t shown the ability to break people down one on one, but running some pick n rolls for him wouldn’t hurt.
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