there is no reason they should be 2-9, are they a playoff team? no but they are not get blown out evwry night bad..
If the coach just staggers the lineup a little bit they win tonight..
playing zone was moronic..he doesnt know how to adjust
They don’t even have a legit number 1 option on offense. Or even a number 2.
He is a terrible coach but no one is winning with this team. Only the Knicks could spend 70 million on a 17 win team and make it worse. And Knox blows. He can’t even start for the worst team in the league. He’s a top 19 pick in his 2nd year.
Yep. Low character person with low basketball IQ that the owner trusts and leans on. Give the team to Perry for 18 months and let him hire a coach. It literally can't get any worse.
Dolan sat down with the knicks front office monday and basically read them the riot act...
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
When he says they can keep their jobs if the team “shows progress” I am hoping that means the team the way it is currently constructed. If Mills and Perry put this team together and can with a straight face go to the podium and say it should be a competitive team as they did, then make them prove it.
You cannot let Mills make another big move, especially one that either takes on a long term contract or moves one of the young players. Don’t let this asshole mortgage the future to save his own ass. Make Mills win with the shit he put together, and when it ultimately fails, let the next guy come in and fix it.
Dolan sat down with the knicks front office monday and basically read them the riot act...
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
When he says they can keep their jobs if the team “shows progress” I am hoping that means the team the way it is currently constructed. If Mills and Perry put this team together and can with a straight face go to the podium and say it should be a competitive team as they did, then make them prove it.
You cannot let Mills make another big move, especially one that either takes on a long term contract or moves one of the young players. Don’t let this asshole mortgage the future to save his own ass. Make Mills win with the shit he put together, and when it ultimately fails, let the next guy come in and fix it.
this team is not get blown out by 20 by the cavs bad
Not a good situation to have the President and GM on the brink of being fired and looking for a trade to save their ass. Look at the THJ contract when Mills was solely in charge.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
Not a good situation to have the President and GM on the brink of being fired and looking for a trade to save their ass. Look at the THJ contract when Mills was solely in charge.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
Not a good situation to have the President and GM on the brink of being fired and looking for a trade to save their ass. Look at the THJ contract when Mills was solely in charge.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
i can see them going all innon getting russell
Peak Knicks would be giving up assets for a player they could signed with cap space 6 months ago.
Not a good situation to have the President and GM on the brink of being fired and looking for a trade to save their ass. Look at the THJ contract when Mills was solely in charge.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
i can see them going all innon getting russell
Peak Knicks would be giving up assets for a player they could signed with cap space 6 months ago.
well they really had no chance to sign him, to be fair
and firing Mills/Perry in the offseason - AFTER they make the draft picks and commit four years to some crappy free agent this summer. Then, we hire a big name executive who hates Mark Jackson and wants to fire him, sparking more dysfunction within the organization. Jackson gets canned after next season, around the time RJ asks for a trade. Meanwhile, one of our current assistants (Mike Miller seems like a good candidate) winds up landing a head coaching gig elsewhere and proves superior to Mark Jackson and whomever we hire to be Mark Jackson's replacement.
If they offered him a max day 1, why couldn’t they sign him? What am I missing honestly asking.
seems to me if Russell had other offers for the full max he would have considered them. He had to know that taking that deal from Golden State would mean he'd be traded at some point relatively soon. If he had other max offers, he'd at least be going to a team where he might stick around for a little longer.
and firing Mills/Perry in the offseason - AFTER they make the draft picks and commit four years to some crappy free agent this summer. Then, we hire a big name executive who hates Mark Jackson and wants to fire him, sparking more dysfunction within the organization. Jackson gets canned after next season, around the time RJ asks for a trade. Meanwhile, one of our current assistants (Mike Miller seems like a good candidate) winds up landing a head coaching gig elsewhere and proves superior to Mark Jackson and whomever we hire to be Mark Jackson's replacement.
Peak Knicks would be all that PLUS RJ Barrett getting his leg amputated.
Mills needs to go, he might be a smart guy, but he is not a basketball guy. Over the past 2 years, he needed to convince KP to stay or sign KD, he did neither, to me he should be let go because of that.
Perry - Best thing I can say about him is that he is not made any bad moves, but outside of getting a 2nd round pick in the Melo deal, he has not really done anything good either.
Fizdale - he runs one play, the curl where Ellington or Knox come to the head of the circle for a 3 pointer. Otherwise, it is all 1x1. You add that in with his inconsistent lineups and game management, he is just in over his head as a coach.
That being said, where do the go for somebody to run the franchise and bring back credibility.
Jerry West - Not going to happen - (Better chance of Isiah returning)
Ujiri - Not going to happen - we should not give up assets to get him
Buford - He is not coming to New York
Presti - He has a treasure trove of draft picks in OKC, he is not coming
To me, that leaves Jeff Van Gundy as big name Dolan hire, but is he really interested? I'm not so sure.
As a result, you have to look for a guy like Tim Connelly from the Nuggets, he almost left for Washington this off-season and he has built an excellent team in Denver.
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Think Dolan should leave things the way they are Â
are this year's version of Durant, Irving and Leonard.
Woj had an interesting comment on the Michael Kay Show the other day - he said bringing in Ujiri would require some changes to the way the Garden does business. He didn't really expand, and Michael Kay of course didn't ask the appropriate follow-up, but I took it to mean that he'd demand to run things his way with absolutely no interference from Dolan or his lackeys. As evidenced by David Griffin's reluctance last year, the Knicks are still insisting that certain clowns remain in the basketball operation regardless of who they bring in from the outside. It's insane.
Of replacing Mills/Perry in the offseason it would be beyond belief stupid (even for him) to have anything more than an interim coach the team.
Also would be beyond belief stupid (even for him) to allow Mills/Perry to make some kind of "trade assets to try to save our jobs" kind of trade.
Of course he will hire a full time coach right away and will allow Mills/Perry to make an awful trade and then fire them in May putting the new executive immediately into a hole. Because Dolan is always gonna Dolan.
are this year's version of Durant, Irving and Leonard.
Woj had an interesting comment on the Michael Kay Show the other day - he said bringing in Ujiri would require some changes to the way the Garden does business. He didn't really expand, and Michael Kay of course didn't ask the appropriate follow-up, but I took it to mean that he'd demand to run things his way with absolutely no interference from Dolan or his lackeys. As evidenced by David Griffin's reluctance last year, the Knicks are still insisting that certain clowns remain in the basketball operation regardless of who they bring in from the outside. It's insane.
Griffin stayed away because he (rightly) didn't want to report to Mills. Phil reported directly to Dolan and had final say. Masai or anyone else on that level would get the same.
are this year's version of Durant, Irving and Leonard.
Woj had an interesting comment on the Michael Kay Show the other day - he said bringing in Ujiri would require some changes to the way the Garden does business. He didn't really expand, and Michael Kay of course didn't ask the appropriate follow-up, but I took it to mean that he'd demand to run things his way with absolutely no interference from Dolan or his lackeys. As evidenced by David Griffin's reluctance last year, the Knicks are still insisting that certain clowns remain in the basketball operation regardless of who they bring in from the outside. It's insane.
Heard that comment too and wanted to hear more ( Kay is a truly awful interviewer. Not to mention him and his clowns were pushing to get Mark Jackson).
I think because of that, a major name needs to come here and completely revamp things. Dolan isn't letting an up and comer have total power. They need someone with serious gravitas to truly change things.
Although Phil had total control, he didn't clean house or install his own front office. In fact he hired only one person to the front office- Clarence Gaines.
It was reported that Phil wanted to replace the medical staff shortly after taking over, and Dolan vetoed it. There's been some question as to whether Dolan demanded Carmelo be re-signed, and we know Dolan vetoed a possible KP trade and fired Phil shortly thereafter. I'm sure Phil was also told certain guys had to remain in the basketball operation as a condition of him getting that fat paycheck. I don't want to sound like I'm defending Big Chief Triangle, but I don't think there's any such thing as true autonomy under Dolan.
He also had to give Mills a piggy back ride for 3 years Â
Did not want to work with Mills, not sure whom would be reporting to whom, but Griffin wanted him out of basketball ops.
Presti is not coming here, unless there is a g-d father offer. He has a treasure trove of draft picks in OKC and complete autonomy.
Re: Presti, I'm not so sure that's true. Of course it would take a big $ offer which isn't something Dolan seems to care much about doing. But, bear in mind Presti has had to navigate a small market which cost him Harden and then Durant. He may find a big market appealing in today's NBA if he gets full autonomy and Mills is shown the door.
A guy called Francesa killing Mike for "creating a narrative" that KP was already causing problems in Dallas after being a headache in NY.
I’m not sure he was “benched” for reasons being insinuated. He had 5 fouls in all of 19 minutes. I’d guess his foul situation was more the reason he was on the bench, but who knows. I didn’t see the game so that’s just my guess
RE: RE: I didn't realize Porzingis was benched the other night in Boston. Â
A guy called Francesa killing Mike for "creating a narrative" that KP was already causing problems in Dallas after being a headache in NY.
I’m not sure he was “benched” for reasons being insinuated. He had 5 fouls in all of 19 minutes. I’d guess his foul situation was more the reason he was on the bench, but who knows. I didn’t see the game so that’s just my guess
A local Dallas article said he was benched for the final 9+ minutes of the game. He was quoted as saying (paraphrasing) he wanted to play obviously, but the coach gets to decide. Doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but I hadn't heard about this at all. If you're someone who believes he was a pain in the neck with the Knicks, you're likely to see it a certain way. Francesa obviously did and spun it that way.
i think keith smart leaves with fizde..
you know what is going to happen? van gundy is going to get the president job with houston as gm
If the coach just staggers the lineup a little bit they win tonight..
playing zone was moronic..he doesnt know how to adjust
They don’t even have a legit number 1 option on offense. Or even a number 2.
He is a terrible coach but no one is winning with this team. Only the Knicks could spend 70 million on a 17 win team and make it worse. And Knox blows. He can’t even start for the worst team in the league. He’s a top 19 pick in his 2nd year.
defensively he needs work, not every top 10 pick is a great player right away, some players take a little longer
Barrett needs to calm down at the free throw line but he can be a legit number 1 or a very good 2..
i dknt like trier or dotson..
You can't play him if this is the output he's going to give you.
Where do I sign up?
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
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Dolan sat down with the knicks front office monday and basically read them the riot act...
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
Good
not good, if mills and perry think they can save their job they are gojng to do something stupid
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
When he says they can keep their jobs if the team “shows progress” I am hoping that means the team the way it is currently constructed. If Mills and Perry put this team together and can with a straight face go to the podium and say it should be a competitive team as they did, then make them prove it.
You cannot let Mills make another big move, especially one that either takes on a long term contract or moves one of the young players. Don’t let this asshole mortgage the future to save his own ass. Make Mills win with the shit he put together, and when it ultimately fails, let the next guy come in and fix it.
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Dolan sat down with the knicks front office monday and basically read them the riot act...
According to his sources Mills and Perry believe they can still save their jobs..
But he also said from who he has talked to he believes fiz is fired during the season and Mills and Perry are replaced at the end of the year
When he says they can keep their jobs if the team “shows progress” I am hoping that means the team the way it is currently constructed. If Mills and Perry put this team together and can with a straight face go to the podium and say it should be a competitive team as they did, then make them prove it.
You cannot let Mills make another big move, especially one that either takes on a long term contract or moves one of the young players. Don’t let this asshole mortgage the future to save his own ass. Make Mills win with the shit he put together, and when it ultimately fails, let the next guy come in and fix it.
this team is not get blown out by 20 by the cavs bad
I think it had more to do with people actually thinking Fizdale was tanking for Zion. So they were ok with it. They gave him way too much credit
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
i can see them going all innon getting russell
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Not a good situation to have the President and GM on the brink of being fired and looking for a trade to save their ass. Look at the THJ contract when Mills was solely in charge.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
i can see them going all innon getting russell
Peak Knicks would be giving up assets for a player they could signed with cap space 6 months ago.
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Not a good situation to have the President and GM on the brink of being fired and looking for a trade to save their ass. Look at the THJ contract when Mills was solely in charge.
Fire Fizdale, hire Miller as interim. Don’t allow any major moves unless you miraculously get picks for the free agents they signed. Do whatever it takes to get Ujiri and Presti to come.
Please no Van Gundy or Mark Jackson. It’s time to move forward.
i can see them going all innon getting russell
Peak Knicks would be giving up assets for a player they could signed with cap space 6 months ago.
well they really had no chance to sign him, to be fair
Brogdon- 20/5/6 in 25 minutes last night and another Pacers win. Once they get Dipo back they could contend in the East.
Brogdon- 20/5/6 in 25 minutes last night and another Pacers win. Once they get Dipo back they could contend in the East.
because the sign and trade was already in the works, the way the nets made it eork with durant, jordan and kyrie was they had to do the sign and trade
seems to me if Russell had other offers for the full max he would have considered them. He had to know that taking that deal from Golden State would mean he'd be traded at some point relatively soon. If he had other max offers, he'd at least be going to a team where he might stick around for a little longer.
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If they offered him a max day 1, why couldn’t they sign him? What am I missing honestly asking.
Brogdon- 20/5/6 in 25 minutes last night and another Pacers win. Once they get Dipo back they could contend in the East.
because the sign and trade was already in the works, the way the nets made it eork with durant, jordan and kyrie was they had to do the sign and trade
Typical naive bullshit. You make it sound like Russell didn't have a say in all this.
Peak Knicks would be all that PLUS RJ Barrett getting his leg amputated.
Perry - Best thing I can say about him is that he is not made any bad moves, but outside of getting a 2nd round pick in the Melo deal, he has not really done anything good either.
Fizdale - he runs one play, the curl where Ellington or Knox come to the head of the circle for a 3 pointer. Otherwise, it is all 1x1. You add that in with his inconsistent lineups and game management, he is just in over his head as a coach.
That being said, where do the go for somebody to run the franchise and bring back credibility.
Jerry West - Not going to happen - (Better chance of Isiah returning)
Ujiri - Not going to happen - we should not give up assets to get him
Buford - He is not coming to New York
Presti - He has a treasure trove of draft picks in OKC, he is not coming
To me, that leaves Jeff Van Gundy as big name Dolan hire, but is he really interested? I'm not so sure.
As a result, you have to look for a guy like Tim Connelly from the Nuggets, he almost left for Washington this off-season and he has built an excellent team in Denver.
If I'm
Sounds like he needs some more
Woj had an interesting comment on the Michael Kay Show the other day - he said bringing in Ujiri would require some changes to the way the Garden does business. He didn't really expand, and Michael Kay of course didn't ask the appropriate follow-up, but I took it to mean that he'd demand to run things his way with absolutely no interference from Dolan or his lackeys. As evidenced by David Griffin's reluctance last year, the Knicks are still insisting that certain clowns remain in the basketball operation regardless of who they bring in from the outside. It's insane.
Also would be beyond belief stupid (even for him) to allow Mills/Perry to make some kind of "trade assets to try to save our jobs" kind of trade.
Of course he will hire a full time coach right away and will allow Mills/Perry to make an awful trade and then fire them in May putting the new executive immediately into a hole. Because Dolan is always gonna Dolan.
Woj had an interesting comment on the Michael Kay Show the other day - he said bringing in Ujiri would require some changes to the way the Garden does business. He didn't really expand, and Michael Kay of course didn't ask the appropriate follow-up, but I took it to mean that he'd demand to run things his way with absolutely no interference from Dolan or his lackeys. As evidenced by David Griffin's reluctance last year, the Knicks are still insisting that certain clowns remain in the basketball operation regardless of who they bring in from the outside. It's insane.
Griffin stayed away because he (rightly) didn't want to report to Mills. Phil reported directly to Dolan and had final say. Masai or anyone else on that level would get the same.
Woj had an interesting comment on the Michael Kay Show the other day - he said bringing in Ujiri would require some changes to the way the Garden does business. He didn't really expand, and Michael Kay of course didn't ask the appropriate follow-up, but I took it to mean that he'd demand to run things his way with absolutely no interference from Dolan or his lackeys. As evidenced by David Griffin's reluctance last year, the Knicks are still insisting that certain clowns remain in the basketball operation regardless of who they bring in from the outside. It's insane.
Heard that comment too and wanted to hear more ( Kay is a truly awful interviewer. Not to mention him and his clowns were pushing to get Mark Jackson).
I think because of that, a major name needs to come here and completely revamp things. Dolan isn't letting an up and comer have total power. They need someone with serious gravitas to truly change things.
Although Phil had total control, he didn't clean house or install his own front office. In fact he hired only one person to the front office- Clarence Gaines.
Presti is not coming here, unless there is a g-d father offer. He has a treasure trove of draft picks in OKC and complete autonomy.
Presti is not coming here, unless there is a g-d father offer. He has a treasure trove of draft picks in OKC and complete autonomy.
Re: Presti, I'm not so sure that's true. Of course it would take a big $ offer which isn't something Dolan seems to care much about doing. But, bear in mind Presti has had to navigate a small market which cost him Harden and then Durant. He may find a big market appealing in today's NBA if he gets full autonomy and Mills is shown the door.
If he gets any pushback he is not gojng to take the job
I’m not sure he was “benched” for reasons being insinuated. He had 5 fouls in all of 19 minutes. I’d guess his foul situation was more the reason he was on the bench, but who knows. I didn’t see the game so that’s just my guess
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A guy called Francesa killing Mike for "creating a narrative" that KP was already causing problems in Dallas after being a headache in NY.
I’m not sure he was “benched” for reasons being insinuated. He had 5 fouls in all of 19 minutes. I’d guess his foul situation was more the reason he was on the bench, but who knows. I didn’t see the game so that’s just my guess
A local Dallas article said he was benched for the final 9+ minutes of the game. He was quoted as saying (paraphrasing) he wanted to play obviously, but the coach gets to decide. Doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but I hadn't heard about this at all. If you're someone who believes he was a pain in the neck with the Knicks, you're likely to see it a certain way. Francesa obviously did and spun it that way.
He still has not figured out he has no superstars on this team
This organization...Gotta laugh.
This organization...Gotta laugh.
that is not what was said at all..
Windhorst basically said knicks did not want to give up a bunch of assets and basically have nothing else...
Doncic 7-9 free throws all by himself in the quarter.