As of today what is your preference for our first round pick?
As of right now my preference is Edge Rusher. This defense is sorely lacking a difference maker. I think we can find a tackle in the beginning of the second round that would start at RT next season, and be groomed to play LT the next season. This would be my best case scenario.
I agree completely with Sy's suggestion to sign a top OT in free agency along with a center as well as Yannick Nagkoue and then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on another OT and ER.
Provided they have the second pick, or third w two qb teams ahead of them Id look to sign conklin and jimmy ward in free agency as my two big pickups. Id draft chase in rd 1 and either a C or ILB if the board fell right at the top of rd 2.
But this is why you create a board and set up your tiers of players based upon scouting and Mel Kiper comments...
:-)
Agreed.
1a)chase young-if he his available i don't see how you could pass on him unless you were overwhelmed with a trade proposal
1b)thomas,wirfs or leatherwood ot's
1c) simmons or delpit
...unless one doesn't care about the career development/progress of Daniel Jones.
We need multiple tackles. I would sign a RT and draft a LT even if he needs a year before we get rid of Solder.
Hence, I am extremely nervous about burning a high first round pick on a lineman. Ever since I wanted Gallery, I have never been the same.
As I have stated in the past, if we draft offensive linemen, I hope we target Wisconsin Badgers as they routinely churn out the best linemen in the country and usually fly a little under the radar.
Short answer: If Young is on the board, you run as fast as you can to the podium and pick him!
1) best player in CFB this year bar none
2) better than either the Bosa brothers
Now I will watch tape at some point and form my own opinion, but Giants' championship teams have been previously constructed with elite ERs like LT, Strahan, Tuck, Osi (not my favorite example), Banks...
And OK at best OLTs like Benson, Elliot, Diehl.
You grab the elite ER if one is there and don't look back. Nor do you trade down.
For all the bitching and moaning on BBI...
Surely this was Gettleman's plan all along!
Hence, I am extremely nervous about burning a high first round pick on a lineman. Ever since I wanted Gallery, I have never been the same.
As I have stated in the past, if we draft offensive linemen, I hope we target Wisconsin Badgers as they routinely churn out the best linemen in the country and usually fly a little under the radar.
Short answer: If Young is on the board, you run as fast as you can to the podium and pick him!
Just because it failed in the past doesn't mean you can't go OT again. That's a silly take. I want young but Thomas by all accounts should be a solid pro and is definitely a solid prospect..if he flops, it happens. You're saying edge rushers never flop? I'll give you an Ohio State guy since that's where young is from....Vernon gholston. A "can't miss" pass rusher.
Shit happens. Take BPA and don't look back. Me? I'd like young in first and a guy like becton(OT) in the second. I would also sign a vet OT, an ILB like j shobert and maybe a FS or C
Just because it failed in the past doesn't mean you can't go OT again. That's a silly take. I want young but Thomas by all accounts should be a solid pro and is definitely a solid prospect..if he flops, it happens. You're saying edge rushers never flop? I'll give you an Ohio State guy since that's where young is from....Vernon gholston. A "can't miss" pass rusher.
Shit happens. Take BPA and don't look back. Me? I'd like young in first and a guy like becton(OT) in the second. I would also sign a vet OT, an ILB like j shobert and maybe a FS or C
I would be thrilled with Chase Young in round 1 and Mekhi Becton in round 2. Sign RT Conklin in FA to play RT and let Becton compete for the LT job.
3 and 4 to move down a few spots
Draft wirfes or Thomas
Sign Conklin , resiign golden and l Williams
Sign a real Lb and safety
Remaining draft Picks 8?
Wr since it’s deep, maybe even in rd 2. Center
The rest fill in d
We may have to wait for impact pass rusher until 2021. Too many holes
And if it's me choosing... not the OT.
First run a rational offense . One worth investing in.
We'd probably lose out on the top OT's, not to mention an OC like Biadasz, so OL's on Day 2 would be an imperative for me, and Day 3, as well. Cluster-draft 'em. Looks like a good year to do it, too.
Except that Free Safeties and Inside Linebackers could very well be available in free agency. Outside Linebackers, too. Good, young players with proven track records who would be worth the cost.
On the other hand, the best free agent ER's will cost a small fortune (maybe not so small), and the OT's who might be available are either old, have injury concerns, or haven't played well since they've been in the league.
Quote:
I'd add free safeties and inside linebackers to that pool.
Except that Free Safeties and Inside Linebackers could very well be available in free agency. Outside Linebackers, too. Good, young players with proven track records who would be worth the cost.
On the other hand, the best free agent ER's will cost a small fortune (maybe not so small), and the OT's who might be available are either old, have injury concerns, or haven't played well since they've been in the league.
on point...
I agree completely with Sy's suggestion to sign a top OT in free agency along with a center as well as Yannick Nagkoue and then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on another OT and ER.
love this idea. I do love thomas if chase is gone. Dave Te mentioned the temple center. I watched some youtube clips on him he looks very good. I would not mind doubling up on a tackle and center round 1 and 2.
Quote:
I want Chase Young or Andrew Thomas in round 1.
I agree completely with Sy's suggestion to sign a top OT in free agency along with a center as well as Yannick Nagkoue and then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on another OT and ER.
love this idea. I do love thomas if chase is gone. Dave Te mentioned the temple center. I watched some youtube clips on him he looks very good. I would not mind doubling up on a tackle and center round 1 and 2.
System is a big part of our problem on O right now. Show something before you get new toys.
Regarding free safeties. The Jets game ought to have shown us the value of drafting our own ones .. and high picks at that.
I mean, one safety beat our star guard, our star rb, and our star QB.. all on one play!
Hello?!
Screw that.
Once upon a time the Giants passed up Aaron Donald and Zack Martin to draft Julie McCoy. Let's hope they never do that again.
So they had better use at least a couple of high choices (top 3 rounds) on the OL this year.
Quote:
The Giants have a bunch of slot receivers and no #1. If a WR is BPA then he or she should be the pick without hesitation.
Screw that.
Once upon a time the Giants passed up Aaron Donald and Zack Martin to draft Julie McCoy. Let's hope they never do that again.
Klaatu beating me to the punch twice in same thread.
No dice with elite WRs for a while.
I would be fine with second tier guys all day long, and if they turn into first tier guys then so be it...then you measure their attitudes vs team value at that time and decide whether or not to keep.
Or another OG or if lucky a CB.
We don't need pass rushers, LB, WR under Gettleman.
1) best player in CFB this year bar none
2) better than either the Bosa brothers
Now I will watch tape at some point and form my own opinion, but Giants' championship teams have been previously constructed with elite ERs like LT, Strahan, Tuck, Osi (not my favorite example), Banks...
And OK at best OLTs like Benson, Elliot, Diehl.
You grab the elite ER if one is there and don't look back. Nor do you trade down.
For all the bitching and moaning on BBI...
Surely this was Gettleman's plan all along!
I would take a unicorn Orlando Pace/Ogden level prospect over Young, and I think Young is best ER prospect since LT. I don't think there is one in this draft.
Quote:
The Giants have a bunch of slot receivers and no #1. If a WR is BPA then he or she should be the pick without hesitation.
Screw that.
Once upon a time the Giants passed up Aaron Donald and Zack Martin to draft Julie McCoy. Let's hope they never do that again.
They were bbi's favorites. I guess we can thank Mcadoo wco for drafting a Z receiver high instead.
Mine was Ebron, but we can thank Detroit.
We still have a lot of holes. If, for example, we can grab an extra second round pick by trading down from 3 to 6, it will be totally worthwhile.
don't be too surprised.
1. OT (Both sides!)
2. EDGE
3. FS (Could be lower if Love shows something)
4. ILB
5. C
6. WR (Love Slayton so far but another outside guy is needed)
7. CB
Chase Young is a class his own.
don't be too surprised.
If he falls it’ll be because of interviews or Failed drug test. I don’t see how he doesn’t absolutely demolish the combine.