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Sean : 11/13/2019 11:51 am
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Garrett is familiar with the New York/New Jersey market, albeit not as a coach. But he is definitely familiar with coaching under pressure. He plays for an owner/GM, Jones, who is frequently and publicly candid with his analysis of the Cowboys’ performance.

Pressure in this market wouldn’t be an issue for Garrett. And it’s not like he’d have to worry about his GM or owner publicly assessing him on a regular basis, since Dave Gettleman and Mara don’t speak to reporters nearly as often as Jones.

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Jesus Christ no  
Jints in Carolina : 11/13/2019 11:55 am : link
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I’m all for it  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 11:56 am : link
He can return the franchise to respectability.

Let’s worry about a super bowl after we can string together multiple seasons at or above 500
oh hell no  
Greg from LI : 11/13/2019 11:59 am : link
Has a roster loaded with talent and has done next to nothing with it. Never made so much as an NFC title game. Besides, his smirk in nauseating.
Why does he get no credit  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:01 pm : link
For the quality of the roster?
RE: I’m all for it  
section125 : 11/13/2019 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14678668 ron mexico said:
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He can return the franchise to respectability.

Let’s worry about a super bowl after we can string together multiple seasons at or above 500


Yes, because he has done so well with the Cowboys who have some of the best talent in the NFL and have had it for several of Garrett's seasons with the Cowboys.

This throw shit at the wall and hope some of it sticks mentality has to stop.
This is very possible if Gettleman is retained  
Sean : 11/13/2019 12:02 pm : link
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Know what else he doesn’t do?  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:03 pm : link
Have shitty seasons. Only one losing season in his time there and that’s when both Romo and Dez went down.
RE: Why does he get no credit  
Section331 : 11/13/2019 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14678680 ron mexico said:
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For the quality of the roster?


Do you really think Jerry Jones lets Garrett pick players? I'm sure he's a voice in the room, but I'd love to hear how many of his preferred choices were actually picked.
Well he has the primarily qualification  
Oscar : 11/13/2019 12:03 pm : link
He was once part of the Giants organization in some capacity. Should put him on a shortlist at the very least.
RE: Know what else he doesn’t do?  
section125 : 11/13/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14678689 ron mexico said:
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Have shitty seasons. Only one losing season in his time there and that’s when both Romo and Dez went down.


How many playoff wins do they have since he's been there?
RE: Why does he get no credit  
Tuckrule : 11/13/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14678680 ron mexico said:
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For the quality of the roster?


because its known that its jerry and now stephen jones, who is an excellent talent evaluator, who are making the selections
Please NO  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/13/2019 12:06 pm : link
This team needs a hard ass, teacher type coach. Garrett is neither. What exactly does Garrett do well?
RE: RE: Know what else he doesn’t do?  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14678696 section125 said:
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Have shitty seasons. Only one losing season in his time there and that’s when both Romo and Dez went down.



How many playoff wins do they have since he's been there?


He is 2-3 in the playoffs.
This board is nuts if it wants Jerry Jones lap dog  
Chip : 11/13/2019 12:07 pm : link
to coach this team. This board comes up with some stupid stuff. Lets draft Haskin Darnold or Rosen. Now we want Jerrys lap dog.
RE: Please NO  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14678700 JoeyBigBlue said:
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This team needs a hard ass, teacher type coach. Garrett is neither. What exactly does Garrett do well?


To start , He picks good coordinators and has his team ready to play week 1 every year.
Going  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/13/2019 12:08 pm : link
to vomit.
RE: RE: RE: Know what else he doesn’t do?  
section125 : 11/13/2019 12:09 pm : link
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Have shitty seasons. Only one losing season in his time there and that’s when both Romo and Dez went down.



How many playoff wins do they have since he's been there?



He is 2-3 in the playoffs.


All that talent and ability and they are 2-3...I like Garrett but not for HC of the Giants.
MAYBE as Offensive Coordinator.....MAYBE  
Tom in NY : 11/13/2019 12:10 pm : link
Anything beyond that is asking for the losing to continue.
The Giants biggest challenge now is to have someone that can hold players accountable, raise expectations, and design game plans that attack the opponents weaknesses...while continuing the development of Daniel Jones.
I'm not sure Garrett has accomplished the vast majority of that list in his current role.
Did you watch the game against minnesota?  
JohnB : 11/13/2019 12:10 pm : link
Garrett had the game in hand and threw it away on the last drive. So many stupid calls in one series it was unbelievable. And you want him here?

This Would Be As Big A Coup  
MojoEd : 11/13/2019 12:10 pm : link
As when the NYJ grabbed Gase from Miami!
RE: This board is nuts if it wants Jerry Jones lap dog  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14678706 Chip said:
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to coach this team. This board comes up with some stupid stuff. Lets draft Haskin Darnold or Rosen. Now we want Jerrys lap dog.


I don’t think this is a broad wide thing, I think I’m the only one advocating this....haha

If he can bring Steven Jones as GM along with him I’d be all for that too...lol

Did you know he went to Princeton??  
bceagle05 : 11/13/2019 12:12 pm : link
Because it'll be the new "Todd Frazier is from Toms River!" of the New York sports world.
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ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:12 pm : link
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Have shitty seasons. Only one losing season in his time there and that’s when both Romo and Dez went down.



How many playoff wins do they have since he's been there?



He is 2-3 in the playoffs.



All that talent and ability and they are 2-3...I like Garrett but not for HC of the Giants.


Most coaches have losing playoff records, that’s how the playoffs work.
RE: Well he has the primarily qualification  
BigBlueinChicago : 11/13/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14678692 Oscar said:
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He was once part of the Giants organization in some capacity. Should put him on a shortlist at the very least.


DING DING DING

You can see it now...

"He's been in our organization.'

"He knows the division."

He's not a boat rocker. He will have had 10 years of experience. And is right at the age range they are looking for.

I'm not actually that against it  
crackerjack465 : 11/13/2019 12:14 pm : link
I'm just tired or retreads.

I want someone looking for a promotion, maybe coming from the college ranks. Not someone who just got demoted.

Matt Rhule would be my pick
Only if he can bring Kris Richards with him as the DC ...  
Spider56 : 11/13/2019 12:15 pm : link
I like that guy.
RE: RE: Please NO  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/13/2019 12:15 pm : link
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This team needs a hard ass, teacher type coach. Garrett is neither. What exactly does Garrett do well?



To start , He picks good coordinators and has his team ready to play week 1 every year.


He has nothing to show for this. His best attribute is probably motivating, but we need way more than that on this team.
RE: RE: Why does he get no credit  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14678691 Section331 said:
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For the quality of the roster?



Do you really think Jerry Jones lets Garrett pick players? I'm sure he's a voice in the room, but I'd love to hear how many of his preferred choices were actually picked.


I think he has a say in the draft room and is the main guy responsible for developing and utilizing those players correctly
An eventual Garrett/Abrams pairing  
moespree : 11/13/2019 12:20 pm : link
Sounds like the most John Mara thing ever.
RE: RE: Please NO  
an_idol_mind : 11/13/2019 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14678707 ron mexico said:
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This team needs a hard ass, teacher type coach. Garrett is neither. What exactly does Garrett do well?



To start , He picks good coordinators and has his team ready to play week 1 every year.


I dunno...maybe his teams only look good Week 1 because they're playing the Giants.

I would be interested in seeing Garrett with another team, though I'm not sure if I want that to be the Giants. I think some folks oversell the talent on the Cowboys, and I see working under Jones as a hindrance to a coach rather than a help.
Doesn't feel.like a match  
idiotsavant : 11/13/2019 12:27 pm : link
Good coach but it doesn't feel right for us right now.
RE: Only if he can bring Kris Richards with him as the DC ...  
section125 : 11/13/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14678726 Spider56 said:
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I like that guy.


Yep, first guy I thought of for DC.
RE: Well he has the primarily qualification  
Mike in NY : 11/13/2019 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14678692 Oscar said:
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He was once part of the Giants organization in some capacity. Should put him on a shortlist at the very least.


If we went that direction I'd prefer Dan Campbell
As I said on Eric's plan thread...it isn't just coaching and coaches  
GiantBlue : 11/13/2019 12:34 pm : link
The players have to help each other to get better. They need to know everyone's position and responsibilites so they can coach on the field. With that comes respect from the younger players. From that comes the ability kick someone's ass who isn't trying or to motivate a younger player who is having trouble with certain assignments.

Give me the on-field teachers. They mean more to me than some guy standing on the sideline of what they now call practices (really spa days!).

I want the guys who bleed for each other and get in each other's face to make them better. Garrett, Shurmur, Belichek do so much.....but it is the players who really need to hold each other accountable.
We're doomed.  
wigs in nyc : 11/13/2019 12:36 pm : link
It's inevitable.
This is my guy right here, boy howdy.  
Klaatu : 11/13/2019 12:44 pm : link
In this organization,  
Go Terps : 11/13/2019 12:49 pm : link
paired with Dave Gettleman, Jason Garrett is a 5-11 coach.
Garrett  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/13/2019 12:51 pm : link
is a good coach.

I think he was the one who got Dallas to commit to the draft with a emphasis on the OL. Remember he played for Dallas when they had arguably the best ever one.

Team seems to play hard during his tenure. That said, let him go somewhere else if he loses his job.

I think Dallas is over rated on the defensive side so I am not so sure of the love-fest for the coaches on that side as is the overall team.

I don't see that team winning a Super Bowl anytime soon and not just because of Garrett.

FWIW  
Bernie : 11/13/2019 12:54 pm : link
Will McClay and Stephen Jones are in charge of personnel for the Cowboys. I think it would be hard to argue against the fact that they have built an impressive roster.

Having said that, Jason Garrett is on par with Pat Shurmur for in-game decision making. Minnesota did not have an answer for Amari Cooper on Sunday night. Yet in crunch time, you turn the ball over on downs by going to Zeke on 3 straight plays after gaining 8 yards on 1st down via a pass to Cooper. What? So no thank you to Jason Garrett.

You want a coach that would be the perfect fit? Matt Rhule.
This is kind of  
Giantophile : 11/13/2019 12:56 pm : link
how I feel. Hiring a coach can be like drafting a QB. Not all 'draft classes', so to speak, are created equal.

There don't seem to be a ton of inspiring choices floating around for a new HC and after McAdoo and now Shurmur the pressure is on Mara to really get it right. Garrett is the safest choice and will prob be the choice if he shakes loose.
Did I miss something?  
johnnyb : 11/13/2019 12:57 pm : link
Was Jason Garrett fired?

Not so sure Garrett will even be available.
....  
BleedBlue : 11/13/2019 1:03 pm : link
Rhule all day.
RE: Did I miss something?  
ron mexico : 11/13/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14678815 johnnyb said:
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Was Jason Garrett fired?

Not so sure Garrett will even be available.


he is not under contract with the cowboys after this season
Rhule ain't taking the job if Gettleman is here  
Go Terps : 11/13/2019 1:11 pm : link
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Here we go..  
Pete44 : 11/13/2019 1:12 pm : link
This would be another lazy hire by the Giants like Gettleman. Garrett is not the answer.

We need a fresh voice, with zero ties to this organization, unless he is from New England.
I don't see anything in Rhule's background that  
cosmicj : 11/13/2019 1:18 pm : link
makes me think he can compete tactically and in terms of player development with the NFL's best. Why do people think he can do it? Reviving a Baylor program and maintaining Temple's performance are completely different types of challenges.
Here we go..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/13/2019 1:21 pm : link
again with the absolute statements of who and who won't coach with Gettleman here.

Enough with those fucking narratives.
RE: Here we go..  
Go Terps : 11/13/2019 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14678863 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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again with the absolute statements of who and who won't coach with Gettleman here.

Enough with those fucking narratives.


You of all people shouldn't be accusing others of spinning narratives.
I dont believe he is a good coach  
Rudy5757 : 11/13/2019 1:29 pm : link
The Cowboys have been under performing based on their roster for a number of years. look at this season and its not good.

The Giants might be the worst football team in the league right now and Dallas has 2 wins against us and only leads us by 3 wins. they have 5 wins on the season, 2 against the Giants, 1 against Washington, 1 against Miami and 1 against the eagles which was a good win.

They lost to the Jets. They lost to every good team they have played except the Eagles. Shurmur could have 5 wins with that roster and I think he would have more. hard pass.
When..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/13/2019 1:29 pm : link
I speak in absolutes call me out on it.

You have asserted several times that no good coach will work with Gettleman.

And you've been saying it over and over again. This isn't the principle where if you say something over and over again without evidence that it becomes true.
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