know i'm probably going to get slaughtered for this...

I don't know enough about his coaching style his health or even college football to speak of but he seems to get players and get players to 'buy in' and to translate that into champions.

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Why?

Need a Parcells type coach to shake things up. Jerry realized it, not so sure about about Mara/Tisch. Is there another wCo coordinator that will help ensure DJ8 throws 70% out there?

Seeing more of Meyer on TV, seems to be an exceptional communicator, likely accounts for much of his success. Can you imagine Shumur on TV? Would likely be defensive and sensitive aND make you want to not listen.

that what makes the big time college coach successful is their recruiting ability more than game planning/coaching itself. They recruit and attract better players, and out-talent their opposition.

The players HATED him. He had an ego the size of the moon; he had a rule that players had to move out of his way if he was walking down the hallway. No thanks.

Harbaugh would be better...although a little nuts

In comment 14679098 Mike from SI said:

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The players HATED him. He had an ego the size of the moon; he had a rule that players had to move out of his way if he was walking down the hallway. No thanks.

Ignore this, I was thinking of Nick Saban, I am an idiot.

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In comment 14679098 Mike from SI said:

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The players HATED him. He had an ego the size of the moon; he had a rule that players had to move out of his way if he was walking down the hallway. No thanks.

guessing players move out of the way when belichick walks down the hall...meyer has won wherever he has been.

That’s why he has these mysterious health issues when they suddenly have some bad press.

He would be a disaster in the NFL, where you have to do more with less.

and likely deserve complete control. In other words, he wouldn't need a GM, especially DG.

If not for his health concerns, and they are a flag (just don't know how red), this guy could be the next Jimmy Johnson...

In comment 14679100 George from PA said:

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I think Harbaugh makes a better NFL coach, his extreme douchiness can rub recruit parents the wrong way. Herm Edwards is the opposite, and is making a better college coach.

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I don't like Fassel's sweaty lipped beady eyed weaseliness, but would now gladly take him now overy what we got.

Daniel Jones does. The only exception is Bill Belichek.

at USC - everybody loves him now.

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at USC - everybody loves him now.

Pete Carroll didn't fake illnesses to get out of contracts..did he cheat his way through USC, yep. But most college coaches at that level are shady.

No way to Urban Meyer.

In comment 14679092 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

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Need a Parcells type coach to shake things up. Jerry realized it, not so sure about about Mara/Tisch. Is there another wCo coordinator that will help ensure DJ8 throws 70% out there? Seeing more of Meyer on TV, seems to be an exceptional communicator, likely accounts for much of his success. Can you imagine Shumur on TV? Would likely be defensive and sensitive aND make you want to not listen.

Why the fuck do we need yet another WCO coach? We keep hiring "QB gurus" at OC and HC to what end? Hire the best person out there, especially if they have had success on D.

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In comment 14679183 Dnew15 said: Quote: at USC - everybody loves him now. Pete Carroll didn't fake illnesses to get out of contracts..did he cheat his way through USC, yep. But most college coaches at that level are shady. No way to Urban Meyer.

Meyer faked his way out of Florida?

...and he'd eventually walk away.

Pass.

I heard him talking about how the college players will be able to make money of their name. He was certain it will happen. Hated the idea because it would be much harder for him to coach with a player making 600k. Pretty revealing.

Great recruiter, great identifying coaching talent. I think in the NFL without the talent advantage he would be wincing in pain and grabbing his head in short order.

Meyer wins by being such an amazing recruiter, judging HS talent, and motivating young players. NFL I don't think is as stressful as college as you don't have to recruit or worry about players going to class. Could he be a great coach at the NFL level... maybe, but I am not sure I want to be the team that finds out.

In comment 14679235 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14679217 section125 said: Quote: In comment 14679183 Dnew15 said: Quote: at USC - everybody loves him now. Pete Carroll didn't fake illnesses to get out of contracts..did he cheat his way through USC, yep. But most college coaches at that level are shady. No way to Urban Meyer. Meyer faked his way out of Florida?

He certainly did with his fake heart problem crap. Then he suddenly had brain lapses when his recruiting staff turned out to be total duschebags.

Why don't you go back to rooting for the Redskins.

Urban is slime ball and if your the college guru you claim to be, you would know that.

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Take it easy. He isn't Ivan Grozny.

In comment 14679235 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14679217 section125 said: Quote: In comment 14679183 Dnew15 said: Quote: at USC - everybody loves him now. Pete Carroll didn't fake illnesses to get out of contracts..did he cheat his way through USC, yep. But most college coaches at that level are shady. No way to Urban Meyer. Meyer faked his way out of Florida?

He gave an excuse, IIRC, about his heart and pressure(hey may have been real). So he left UF and shortly after he left UF he was at OSU or don't you remember that?
If the pressure at UF was causing him health issues, how was being HC at OSU going to be better for his health?

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He gave an excuse, IIRC, about his heart and pressure(hey may have been real). So he left UF and shortly after he left UF he was at OSU or don't you remember that? If the pressure at UF was causing him health issues, how was being HC at OSU going to be better for his health?

I remember. But I don't think it was something he faked. In fact, a good friend of mine works at UF as a professor and it pretty dialed-in. FWIW.

And as I said earlier, while I like Meyer, he does come with red flags.

So I think we are probably closer on this than you think...

He won't be able to pay his players more than his competition once he coaches in the NFL.

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With Mike Bohn at USC, I fully expect Meyer to be there come next September...

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Like I said he may have had an issue but down here in FL it seemed flukey and then he was at OSU right away. He really wanted ND(said it was his dream job.)
I think the point was, Tebow was gone, the team was on the way down and he used an issue to walk away to a better job.

He is a great college coach, but I doubt he does well in the NFL.

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you stuck around for mcadoo and better yet, shurmur? But one of the most prolific collegiate HCs all time is the breaking point?

is you have to be careful of the ones from really strong programs because they can stockpile talent that is vastly better than opponents. To wit, in 2017 OSU had five 5-star and 14 4-star recruits. Meanwhile, with the exception of UM, no one else in the Big10 comes close to that kind of recruiting success. No matter how good Meyer is in the living room, he's unlikely to have that kind of NFL recruiting success with the cap in place. So, it's always a question as to whether they can win without that big talent advantage. And, of course, if they can motivate guys they don't rule over like a king.

(For comparison the other top Big10 recruiting schools were: Michigan with 2 5-star and 19 4-star the second best, then PSU at 0 and 11, Nebraska 0 and 6, and MSU at 0 and 4). Play that out year after year and you get a program in OSU that has 20 5 star recruits and the rest 4-stars, vs most that have zero or maybe a couple 5-star and a few 4-stars sprinkled in. UM should be their only Big10 competition in any year by those numbers. Hell, it's impressive Dantonio got MSU to the BCS once and won the Big10 twice considering he's working with all 3 star with a few 4 stars.)

YOU would pay Urban Meyer whatever he wants.
John Mara sure as hell wouldn't.