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NGT: Myles Garrett goes crazy...suspensions inbound

allstarjim : 11/14/2019 11:51 pm
This is going to be a big story in the morning. For those of you who did not stay up late, Garrett ripped the helmet off of Mason Rudolph and swung it at him, connecting with Rudolph's head. Rudolph seems fine, but the act itself was incredibly dangerous and Garrett might have an unprecedented suspension coming his way. Possibly season ending.

And Pouncey, although I can't blame him, went nuts on Garrett with punches and kicked him in the head and neck area while he was pinned. All of this and there was :08 seconds left in the game.

And these two teams play again in two weeks.

This is the most Browns thing ever. The defense just played a great game, Mayfield was good, they ran the ball well, and physically beat a division rival they hadn't beaten in what, 5 years I think Joe Buck said? They get a huge win, the game is ending, and their best defensive player puts himself in a situation where he may not play again this season.

This is worse than Haynesworth.

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Suspension?  
BeckShepEli : 11/14/2019 11:55 pm : link
Banned for life and a police officer should be at this locker right now arresting him for assault. Hes lucky he hit him with the face mask part because if he hit him with the middle of the helmet, It would have been goodnight Mason
Mason Rudolph did try to take Garrett's helmet off.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/14/2019 11:55 pm : link
No excuse for trying to assault Rudolph, but that's the entire story.
I would throw  
MookGiants : 11/14/2019 11:55 pm : link
give him a lifetime ban. He also needs to be arrested for that.

He could have killed Rudolph. Or broken his neck.

You do something like that, no second chances. Goodbye.
He nailed Mason, too...  
bw in dc : 11/14/2019 11:57 pm : link
If he doesn't get at least three games I'll be very surprised.

Browns should be embarrassed and should be fined into oblivion  
732NYG : 11/14/2019 11:57 pm : link
for the absurd amount of blatant cheap shots they took this game. My opinion of Kitchens was pretty low before this game, but after this? Guys a fuckin clown.
RE: He nailed Mason, too...  
jnoble : 11/14/2019 11:58 pm : link
In comment 14679771 bw in dc said:
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If he doesn't get at least three games I'll be very surprised.


I'm guessing he's suspended for the rest of the season
RE: Suspension?  
allstarjim : 11/14/2019 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14679765 BeckShepEli said:
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Banned for life and a police officer should be at this locker right now arresting him for assault. Hes lucky he hit him with the face mask part because if he hit him with the middle of the helmet, It would have been goodnight Mason


It will be interesting to see how this is viewed by the NFL. I think it may end up being an indefinite suspension to start. Personally I do not expect him to be on the field again this season. I doubt there will be any arrests but maybe their should be in all honesty. This can't happen. And yeah, he could've killed him. Especially horrible knowing Rudolph had that devastating concussion earlier in the season.
RE: I would throw  
Bluesbreaker : 11/14/2019 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14679768 MookGiants said:
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give him a lifetime ban. He also needs to be arrested for that.

He could have killed Rudolph. Or broken his neck.

You do something like that, no second chances. Goodbye.

Amen Assault Life time Ban he is trash !
I’ll never understand  
The Giants Gal : 11/15/2019 12:00 am : link
how players can let themselves act like that on the field. That was just downright awful. Thank God Rudolph’s alright. He should be suspended for the rest of the season, at least, IMO.
Looks like the Browns learned "well"...  
bw in dc : 11/15/2019 12:00 am : link
under their prior scum DC, Gregg Williams.
RE: RE: Suspension?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2019 12:00 am : link
In comment 14679775 allstarjim said:
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Especially horrible knowing Rudolph had that devastating concussion earlier in the season.


If Rudolph had a concussion earlier this season, then he probably shouldn't have tried to rip Garrett's helmet off.
Just watched the video on YouTube  
81_Great_Dane : 11/15/2019 12:00 am : link
Link below, not great quality.

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Can't remember ever anything like that in 50 years of watching the NFL.

Wonder WTF set him off?
Fight - ( New Window )
Garrett ripping off Mason's helmet  
smshmth8690 : 11/15/2019 12:01 am : link
was so violent, he could have killed him. Cleveland should suspend him themselves, I wouldn't be surprised if they cut him for that. (they never would but..)
This is so browns  
terz22 : 11/15/2019 12:01 am : link
May they suck forever
RE: RE: He nailed Mason, too...  
bw in dc : 11/15/2019 12:01 am : link
In comment 14679774 jnoble said:
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In comment 14679771 bw in dc said:


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If he doesn't get at least three games I'll be very surprised.




I'm guessing he's suspended for the rest of the season


Hey, the more the better.
The problem  
BeckShepEli : 11/15/2019 12:01 am : link
is NFL players think they can do whatever they want and not have consequences for it. Especially these NFL Stars who are above everyone else. Myles Garrett will find out shortly that's not the case.

I agree that Mason should have walked away but heat of the moment, Myles should have just dropped the helmet but he decided hes Myles Garrett so he doesn't have to.
Lifetime ban is a little much  
djm : 11/15/2019 12:02 am : link
You want the guy to lose his job for life? That won’t help anyone.
RE: Mason Rudolph did try to take Garrett's helmet off.  
allstarjim : 11/15/2019 12:03 am : link
In comment 14679767 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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No excuse for trying to assault Rudolph, but that's the entire story.


Rudolph was idiotic. I didn't think the hit was late, really, it was a clean hit, and I think that was frustration by Rudolph after a difficult loss where he got hit a lot and had a lot of turnovers.

But that's a penalty, maybe a fine.

Swinging a helmet at a dude's unprotected head is obviously on a completely different level.
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Nine-Tails : 11/15/2019 12:03 am : link
In comment 14679779 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Especially horrible knowing Rudolph had that devastating concussion earlier in the season.



If Rudolph had a concussion earlier this season, then he probably shouldn't have tried to rip Garrett's helmet off.


Yep Rudolph ignited the fire
I guess this...  
Chris in Philly : 11/15/2019 12:03 am : link
is why you have a Pouncey on your roster...
RE: Lifetime ban is a little much  
Nine-Tails : 11/15/2019 12:04 am : link
In comment 14679786 djm said:
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You want the guy to lose his job for life? That won’t help anyone.


Garrett’s act is inexcusable. But lifetime ban? Were people saying that when Beckham helmet speared an unsuspecting Norman. How about pitchers beaning hitters with 100 mph heaters intentionally
Steve Smith  
AndyMilligan : 11/15/2019 12:05 am : link
said on NFL network that even if Mason Rudolph talks about Garrett's mama, that's still no excuse to do what he did. Such great analysis on NFL Network
RE: Lifetime ban is a little much  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/15/2019 12:05 am : link
In comment 14679786 djm said:
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You want the guy to lose his job for life? That won’t help anyone.


It's not supposed to help someone who would do what he just did. And it might help someone. It might open other players' eyes that if you're going to do something like that, be ready to pay for it with your career in the NFL.

It's not gonna happen. But you can make an argument that it should.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2019 12:07 am : link
In comment 14679789 Nine-Tails said:
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Yep Rudolph ignited the fire


I'm not defending Garrett. He literally tried to assault someone with a weapon. However, Rudolph overreacted to a late hit that was hardly Jim McMahon being bodyslammed.
RE: Lifetime ban is a little much  
Toth029 : 11/15/2019 12:08 am : link
In comment 14679786 djm said:
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You want the guy to lose his job for life? That won’t help anyone.

Don't committ assault on live tv?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Suspension?  
Nine-Tails : 11/15/2019 12:10 am : link
In comment 14679796 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Yep Rudolph ignited the fire



I'm not defending Garrett. He literally tried to assault someone with a weapon. However, Rudolph overreacted to a late hit that was hardly Jim McMahon being bodyslammed.


Garrett should not be condoned. His actions will overshadow Rudolph’s. What if it was a black qb, Cam for example, in place of rudolph
DeCastro had the good takedown  
allstarjim : 11/15/2019 12:10 am : link
Of Garrett and just pinned him, which probably saved Garrett from more of Pouncey's wrath.
I think many of you are wrong  
jvm52106 : 11/15/2019 12:10 am : link
about Rudolph. It looked like Rudolphs hand was stuck in garrets facemask underneath and Garrett was moving and Mason was trying to get his hand out first..
Go back and look at it  
jvm52106 : 11/15/2019 12:12 am : link
Mason grabbed the back of Garretts helmet but his right hand seemed stuck and twisted in Garretts facemask.
The way Garrett went after Trevor Siemian  
shyster : 11/15/2019 12:12 am : link
earlier this year vs the Jets was a window to his character.

The hit where he took Siemian out for the year was his second roughing-the-passer penalty of the game and the second time he went after Siemian knowing he was going to get the penalty and did not care.

Garrett wanted to take Siemian out. The Jets were already helpless to move the ball and would be even more helpless with a third string QB.

So who cares about a 15 yard penalty? Or two?

Garrett did not get ejected from that game because the NFL doesn't really care about player safety.

We'll see how much they care about appearances in this case.
RE: Lifetime ban is a little much  
MookGiants : 11/15/2019 12:13 am : link
In comment 14679786 djm said:
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You want the guy to lose his job for life? That won’t help anyone.


Yes. You do something that could kill someone on the field, you lose your job for good. He can't ever see an NFL field again.

Why does anyone on earth think Garrett deserves to play another down in the NFL.

He easily could have killed him.
RE: I think many of you are wrong  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2019 12:13 am : link
In comment 14679800 jvm52106 said:
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about Rudolph. It looked like Rudolphs hand was stuck in garrets facemask underneath and Garrett was moving and Mason was trying to get his hand out first..


Trying to get his hand out? Come on. Rudolph grabbed the back of Garrett's helmet and nearly pulls it off.
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allstarjim : 11/15/2019 12:15 am : link
In comment 14679798 Nine-Tails said:
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Yep Rudolph ignited the fire



I'm not defending Garrett. He literally tried to assault someone with a weapon. However, Rudolph overreacted to a late hit that was hardly Jim McMahon being bodyslammed.



Garrett should not be condoned. His actions will overshadow Rudolph’s. What if it was a black qb, Cam for example, in place of rudolph


I don't see race being an element in this at all.

I think there would be no change in the outrage of Garrett's actions. Nor the level of criticism of Rudolph's. One guy was stupid and overreacted, causing more stupidity. But the outcome of Garrett's actions could've been a dead football player on live TV.

Hyperbole? I don't know, but that was incredibly dangerous, and has nothing to do with race.
RE: I think many of you are wrong  
Eman11 : 11/15/2019 12:15 am : link
In comment 14679800 jvm52106 said:
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about Rudolph. It looked like Rudolphs hand was stuck in garrets facemask underneath and Garrett was moving and Mason was trying to get his hand out first..


It looked like that to me too and Aikman seemed to think that was the case as well.
RE: The way Garrett went after Trevor Siemian  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2019 12:15 am : link
In comment 14679802 shyster said:
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earlier this year vs the Jets was a window to his character.

The hit where he took Siemian out for the year was his second roughing-the-passer penalty of the game and the second time he went after Siemian knowing he was going to get the penalty and did not care.



The Trevor Semian hit was WAY dirtier than the hit that started this fracas. All he got was a fine.
Look at it  
jvm52106 : 11/15/2019 12:16 am : link
his right hand was stuck in his facemask underneath. Aikman even said the same thing. Garrett was getting up and Mason grabbed, with his legt hand, Garretts helmet trying to hold on to get his right hand out. Look at it!
I am beyond confused as to why Rudolph’s  
bhill410 : 11/15/2019 12:19 am : link
Race is relevant. The closest thing I can remember was the Miami player doing this in that crazy melee.
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moespree : 11/15/2019 12:21 am : link
No "I lost my mind in the moment" is going to cut it on this one. The guy is a dangerous person if he's about to use a helmet to bash someones head with. Let alone in a sporting event on live television.

Only a bad person with a mind that works like that of a criminal would think to do that. That's harsh but I don't know how else to put it.
..  
BeckShepEli : 11/15/2019 12:22 am : link
Listening to him on TV right now the guy has no sympathy for what he did. He lost his cool he keeps saying. No sympathy for what he did.
hey  
AndyMilligan : 11/15/2019 12:23 am : link
anybody have a hot take here??
RE: RE: Mason Rudolph did try to take Garrett's helmet off.  
montanagiant : 11/15/2019 12:29 am : link
In comment 14679788 allstarjim said:
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In comment 14679767 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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No excuse for trying to assault Rudolph, but that's the entire story.



Rudolph was idiotic. I didn't think the hit was late, really, it was a clean hit, and I think that was frustration by Rudolph after a difficult loss where he got hit a lot and had a lot of turnovers.

But that's a penalty, maybe a fine.

Swinging a helmet at a dude's unprotected head is obviously on a completely different level.

The initial hit was fine, it was the 3-4 seconds of Garrett trying to twist him down that wasn't
RE: Lifetime ban is a little much  
widmerseyebrow : 11/15/2019 12:34 am : link
In comment 14679786 djm said:
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You want the guy to lose his job for life? That won’t help anyone.


For life? He is free to seek employment outside of a multi million dollar sports league. It would help deter any other assholes from pissing their genetic lottery ticket away.
If you were a professional football player  
jcn56 : 11/15/2019 12:39 am : link
would you want some lunatic who could snap and start taking shots at your head with a helmet at any time on the field with you? I sure as shit wouldn't.
I don't care what Rudolph did here  
Marty866b : 11/15/2019 12:40 am : link
He wasn't going to take Garrett's helmet off and commit assault on him. If the NFL does the right thing here it should be a year long suspension for Garrett. My guess is that the NFL which never does anything right in these matters, gives Garrett four games,the same as PED use.
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 11/15/2019 12:41 am : link
This is a terrible look for the NFL. Primetime game with one of the model, historic franchises on display. While not as bad as it does not involve fans, but this makes me think of the Malice at the Palace in the possible fallout from this horrific fight for the league. Swinging and connecting with a helmet to an unprotected player's head has to warrant some serious discipline and rule changes.
At a minimum, he should be suspended for the rest of the season....  
John in No Cal : 11/15/2019 12:41 am : link
one of the worst things I have ever seen.
Myles Garrett  
BeckShepEli : 11/15/2019 12:41 am : link
spoke for 5 minutes and never once did he apologize to Rudolph. He doesn't care what he did. He's a thug.
RE: Look at it  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 11/15/2019 12:43 am : link
In comment 14679810 jvm52106 said:
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his right hand was stuck in his facemask underneath. Aikman even said the same thing. Garrett was getting up and Mason grabbed, with his legt hand, Garretts helmet trying to hold on to get his right hand out. Look at it!


"His right hand was stuck" is unequivocally incorrect. If you mean Mason's left hand...I guess it's possible, but it doesn't look like it to me. It looks like Mason was trying to rip Garrett's helmet off.

Doesn't excuse Garrett in any way from ASSAULTING Rudolph with his own helmet, but the "his hand was stuck" argument seems bogus.
RE: Myles Garrett  
John in No Cal : 11/15/2019 12:43 am : link
In comment 14679827 BeckShepEli said:
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spoke for 5 minutes and never once did he apologize to Rudolph. He doesn't care what he did. He's a thug.


Really? What a great human? Baker got it right post game in his comments.
RE: RE: Myles Garrett  
BeckShepEli : 11/15/2019 12:47 am : link
In comment 14679829 John in No Cal said:
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In comment 14679827 BeckShepEli said:


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spoke for 5 minutes and never once did he apologize to Rudolph. He doesn't care what he did. He's a thug.



Really? What a great human? Baker got it right post game in his comments.


Well Baker post post interview was not great. Blamed the media for how they are being viewed and blamed the media for why everyone hates them
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