NGT: Myles Garrett goes crazy...suspensions inbound

He has to be suspended for the rest of the season, at a minimum. Either that or he has to be forced to play in the rematch with no helmet.

...the fact that he did, and not just in this game, shows that he is a piece of trash.

Would anyone besides Cleveland fans care if he got some season-ending payback?

Hell, if the Browns played the Giants this year I'd hope someone would take him out of the game before he ended Jones's career.

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In comment 14679775 allstarjim said: Quote: Especially horrible knowing Rudolph had that devastating concussion earlier in the season. If Rudolph had a concussion earlier this season, then he probably shouldn't have tried to rip Garrett's helmet off.

obvious troll is obvious

Can anyone say in honesty this surprises you? What surprises me is that it's taken this long to happen. One day someone with intention will critically harm someone else on the field and maybe worse. Everyone will fake their shock and surprise but it won't be surprising if you paid attention to some of the dregs that have entered the league over the last decade+.

Coming up out of nowhere and laying out a defenseless Rudolph again, when he had no helmet on, for absolutely no reason. AFTER he’d just been beaten over the head with a helmet. Then in his presser defending his actions by saying he was standing up for his teammate?!

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Coming up out of nowhere and laying out a defenseless Rudolph again, when he had no helmet on, for absolutely no reason. AFTER he’d just been beaten over the head with a helmet. Then in his presser defending his actions by saying he was standing up for his teammate?!

Cleveland is slime. They've lived up to their worst expectations... and then some.

Speaking on this and acknowledges Rudolph instigated this. Before helmet wa ripped off, he did kick Garrett in his man region. Saw his press conference and didn’t take responsibility for his actions.

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Coming up out of nowhere and laying out a defenseless Rudolph again, when he had no helmet on, for absolutely no reason. AFTER he’d just been beaten over the head with a helmet. Then in his presser defending his actions by saying he was standing up for his teammate?!

Very surprised no other Steelers really tried to stand up for Rudolph after that cheap shot! One player pushed him but that was it.

At first I thought Aikman was an idiot for suggesting that Mason Rudolph may have had his hand caught in Garrett's helmet and that was why he was pulling at Garrett's helmet...

but then I watched the replay and it really does look like Garrett's helmet is awkwardly somehow connected to Rudolph's wrist for several seconds, which may have been the confusion that caused this to escalate to the level it escalated to. I'm not certain of this and this certainly doesn't excuse either player's behavior, but I'm thinking about what may have happened (obviously this is pure speculation)...

My theory here being:

Garrett was excessive picking Rudolph up and driving him to the ground, I have no idea how that wasn't a roughing the passer call to begin with, but of course we see stuff like that a lot. But then if Rudolph's hand was stuck in Garrett's helmet, he might have been 1) afraid of risking injury somehow and was desperately trying to get it off, 2) was doing it in an excessive and aggressive manner in part because he WAS pissed about the way Garrett tackled him. THEN-- Garrett thinking that Rudolph was literally trying to tear his helmet off (which wasn't fully what Rudolph was trying to do, mainly get his hand out but was doing so in an aggressive manner), obviously Garrett was super pissed at this and decided to tear Rudolph's helmet off by the face mask. Either way it was completely inexcusable. If a guy tries to tear your helmet off, it's one thing to tear his off, but to tear it off by lifting him off the ground by the facemask?? And then HITTING said player square in the HEAD with a full force blow using a HELMET as a weapon???? Yeah, that was insane. Garrett has issues.

I think he's a weirdo anyway to be honest. Did anyone see that his mom specifically requested him to get that Sports Illustrated Body Issue spot and pose naked? I think that Body Issue thing is weird as hell anyway but it's weird that his mom pushed/requested him to do it and then she was there watching. Hmmmmm. Not that this explains his behavior tonight, I just think he's a different kinda dude. I'd be weirded out if my mom specifically pushed for me to randomly pose naked on a beach and then came and watched me do it, especially considering it's not like Garrett is a professional model nor has a history of modeling so like wtf? Random.

Not only was the Garrett wrestle down late, but to my eye it was a hit that wasn't that far off the Siemien injury, just didn't turn out as bad. Basically MR was lucky his feet were off the ground before getting twisted and wrestled down. Add MG's history I dunno. Maybe MR was not smart ripping at MG's helmet but you don't expect a helmet swung at your head regardless

Pouncey kicking Garrett on the top of the head while he's pinned to the ground is pretty horrendous

With all these new flags for safety & reviews for 'getting it right' - holy shit - it sure isn't working. Freeman punching Donald who's got him by the head / neck iirc? OBJ choked out by was it Humphrey, the Bal DB? I don't know these were penalized or fined either fwiw. And THEN lets talk about the actual football...speaking of holy shit

Is intolerable.

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Is intolerable.

Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line

I think Garrett is getting charged

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In comment 14679849 colin said: Quote: Is intolerable. Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line

She deleted it pretty quickly but luckily someone screengrabbed it. Pretty quick turn around (and weird vendetta) if it’s a smear job, but it’s plausible I suppose.

Just search “Josina Anderson,” a ton of people are giving her shit about it.

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In comment 14679849 colin said: Quote: Is intolerable. Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line

Josina deleted the tweet but it was screenshot by multiple people.

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In comment 14679852 montanagiant said: Quote: In comment 14679849 colin said: Quote: Is intolerable. Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line Josina deleted the tweet but it was screenshot by multiple people.

Then that is pretty idiotic on her part and she deserves all the shit she's catching

On here and on other threads really leaves me to wonder what some of you are drinking.

Rudolph started it? I don't care if Rudolph called him names and spit in his face. Garrett ripped Rudolph's helmet off and not only swung that helmet at him, but actually hit him in the head with it. That is totally inexcusable no matter who started what.

Garrett already has a reputation for unsportsmanlike conduct and unnecessary roughness as he has been flagged 5 times already this year (according to ESPN). He has already been fined by the league too.

I truly hope that not only does Garrett get suspended for the rest of this year, but his suspension carries into next season (8 additional games to a full season). The NFL needs to come down hard and heavy especially with the emphasis on concussions.

Wanted to point out that Pounceys behavior was completely unacceptable. That deserves a long suspension, too.

but you do like seeing your OL stand up and protect your QB.

payer to do what Garrett did is unexcuseable. I don't think a lifetime ban from the NFL is too much.

It is a privilege to play in the NFL, not a right. He should be made an example of and the league should realize how different this could have been if he connected better with the helmet he turned into a weapon.

It appears to me he nearly took Garrett’s helmet off first. I can’t tell whether Rudolph intended to, but it’s not unreasonable to interpret it this way. Rudolph later joined back in the scrum, without helmet, where he could have walked away.

I’m not excusing Garrett’s reaction. To me Rudolph has justification to file criminal assault charges.

no excuse for Garrett at all!! a year long suspension wouldn't be enough in this instance.

That’s jaw dropping. I’ve never seen anything that dirty on a football field. Pouncey wanted to beat the shit out of him.

To be suspended as well, get control of your team. No on is talking about randell getting tossed earlier, they are dirty undisciplined and a disgrace. Maybe Kareem Hunt can help defuse the situation next time

A good guy who lost his shit and may now have a criminal charge on top of whatever suspension is handed out.

on a helmet-less Rudolph.


I am not seeing the intent to remove Garret's heet. I'll have to re-watch it a couple more times it seems like I'm in the minority.

But let's focus on Rudoloh for a second since everybody has talked about Garrett already. Rudolph in his press conference says that it was bush league and a cowardly move. However, there are still shots of Rudolph kicking Garrett in the balls and then either grabbing or punching him in the dick prior to the helmet swing. Rudolph is a little bitch too.

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Banned for life and a police officer should be at this locker right now arresting him for assault. Hes lucky he hit him with the face mask part because if he hit him with the middle of the helmet, It would have been goodnight Mason

I was thinking the same thing about what would have happened if he would have hit him with top of helmet.

Fortunately it didn’t seem to have any devastating impact on Rudolph

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But let's focus on Rudoloh for a second since everybody has talked about Garrett already. Rudolph in his press conference says that it was bush league and a cowardly move. However, there are still shots of Rudolph kicking Garrett in the balls and then either grabbing or punching him in the dick prior to the helmet swing. Rudolph is a little bitch too.

Yeah, I saw that. Plenty of blame to go around, but when you use a weapon that tends to inflate things. Rudolph, Pouncey and Ogigbah should all get (lesser) suspensions as well. The only one out of the original melee who comes out with any credit is the guy who tackled and subuded Garrett.

even more of an embarrassment then it already is.

This guy has a history of this crap.

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on a helmet-less Rudolph. I am not seeing the intent to remove Garret's heet. I'll have to re-watch it a couple more times it seems like I'm in the minority.

Yeah, this asshole needs to be suspended for a few games as well. This is not getting enough attention.

considering NOBODY was holding him back at the time. They probably should both get season long suspensions.

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would you want some lunatic who could snap and start taking shots at your head with a helmet at any time on the field with you?

As an opponent or a teammate?

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In comment 14679796 shockeyisthebest8056 said: Quote: In comment 14679789 Nine-Tails said: Quote: Yep Rudolph ignited the fire I'm not defending Garrett. He literally tried to assault someone with a weapon. However, Rudolph overreacted to a late hit that was hardly Jim McMahon being bodyslammed. Garrett should not be condoned. His actions will overshadow Rudolph’s. What if it was a black qb, Cam for example, in place of rudolph

If Bridgewater gets his helmet ripped off and bashed in the head by Watt it's still a big deal. No offense but this take exposes a fault in your mind's eye.

Racism is real and no doubt racists will hate this even more but you don't have to be one to see bashing someone in the head with a football helmet is bad.

Is such a race baiter. Why does it always have to go to that? Why can't it just not be Garrett lost his mind and in the heat of battle made a stupid decision.

Why does race always have to be mentioned.

In comment 14679873 robbieballs2003 said:

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But let's focus on Rudoloh for a second since everybody has talked about Garrett already. Rudolph in his press conference says that it was bush league and a cowardly move. However, there are still shots of Rudolph kicking Garrett in the balls and then either grabbing or punching him in the dick prior to the helmet swing. Rudolph is a little bitch too.

Important reminder that you should never play without your cup.

With tensions already high that is something that can definitely send you over the edge.

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considering NOBODY was holding him back at the time. They probably should both get season long suspensions.

No it wasn't! Stop with this NONSENSE!
Garrett had is helmet on.

imo, the visual of Garret's act is flagrant and deserving of a significant suspension.

However, if the core issue is losing control on a football field, I point out that:

A) Pouncey was not involved in the initial scrum of I presume escalating rage on the part of Rudolph and Garret

B) Intervenes several seconds later - when it was essentially over

C) Did not need to

D) Hits a guy being held on the ground

E) Moves around and standing kicks him in the head

imo, I don't know what actually happened with Rudolph, but it sure doesn't look right

Garret should get a substantial suspension

Pouncey is by far and away the most out of control, unfair and dirtiest player in the drama. And could have caused a concussion.

imo, Pouncey should get a long suspension and would not bother me if he got the longest.

Two guys got into it. One went over the top. Pouncey was actually the guy most out of control with minimal provocation for doing so

Will Hernandez always pushing and shoving people off Jones and Barkley

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Race is relevant. The closest thing I can remember was the Miami player doing this in that crazy melee.

There's a narrative going around that Rudolph might've said something racist in that tussle. I think it stems from the fact that Mason rudolph is A Giant supporter of a certain Autocrat. It's unsubstantiated, but that's a theory going around.

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spoke for 5 minutes and never once did he apologize to Rudolph. He doesn't care what he did. He's a thug.

That's the surprising thing. Until now, Garrett was praised for his character. But it's truly unacceptable and inexcusable.

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Damon Harrison similarly swung a helmet at teammate Will Hernandez in #Giants practice last year during a ‘no video allowed’ period. He missed. He was traded by midseason

Kerry Collin's HS Football Coach. Living in the Reading, PA area, I supervised the coach's wife and she was mentioning to me that he never got the opportunity to see Kerry play live in an NFL game. I had two tickets and no-one was interested, so I offered.

We drove to NJ together and he told me that he got word to Kerry's father that he was attending the game. He said Kerry would try to get him down into the locker room. He told me I could tag along.

Wow! I was shocked and excited. He saw my excitement and I will never forget this....He told me that while for a first timer, it might be exciting...but don't forget that most of these guys are punks, bad actors, violent people.

Long story short, the coach was allowed in, but I was held outside. But his words stuck with me. We look back on our Giants in the 80's and 90's and more recently as heroes and superstars....and some are....but there are also a bunch of guys that if it weren't for football, they might take you out in an alley or kick your ass in a bar......or swing a helmet at a defenseless player without his.

Kareem Hunt was coaching Garrett on what to say.

"I lost my cool". And no actual apology.

Should be really interesting what Tomlin does in two weeks.

This is what I don't understand about our society. You do that on the street you're going to jail. Why should it be any different just because it's a sporting match?

let feelings get in the way of rational thought. The optics of the helmet swing are awful, but its not like its the first time we haven't seen it, it just rarely connects. Also these two were in a tussle that quickly escalated because of both parties actions. What Pouncey did was much worse, and much more dangerous, but the optics don't look as bad.

IMO Garrett and Pouncey need season long suspensions, and a whole slew of 4 game suspensions because you just can't have a bunch of these guys playing each other in 17 days.