This is going to be a big story in the morning. For those of you who did not stay up late, Garrett ripped the helmet off of Mason Rudolph and swung it at him, connecting with Rudolph's head. Rudolph seems fine, but the act itself was incredibly dangerous and Garrett might have an unprecedented suspension coming his way. Possibly season ending.
And Pouncey, although I can't blame him, went nuts on Garrett with punches and kicked him in the head and neck area while he was pinned. All of this and there was :08 seconds left in the game.
And these two teams play again in two weeks.
This is the most Browns thing ever. The defense just played a great game, Mayfield was good, they ran the ball well, and physically beat a division rival they hadn't beaten in what, 5 years I think Joe Buck said? They get a huge win, the game is ending, and their best defensive player puts himself in a situation where he may not play again this season.
This is worse than Haynesworth.
Would anyone besides Cleveland fans care if he got some season-ending payback?
Hell, if the Browns played the Giants this year I'd hope someone would take him out of the game before he ended Jones's career.
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Especially horrible knowing Rudolph had that devastating concussion earlier in the season.
If Rudolph had a concussion earlier this season, then he probably shouldn't have tried to rip Garrett's helmet off.
obvious troll is obvious
Cleveland is slime. They've lived up to their worst expectations... and then some.
Very surprised no other Steelers really tried to stand up for Rudolph after that cheap shot! One player pushed him but that was it.
but then I watched the replay and it really does look like Garrett's helmet is awkwardly somehow connected to Rudolph's wrist for several seconds, which may have been the confusion that caused this to escalate to the level it escalated to. I'm not certain of this and this certainly doesn't excuse either player's behavior, but I'm thinking about what may have happened (obviously this is pure speculation)...
My theory here being:
Garrett was excessive picking Rudolph up and driving him to the ground, I have no idea how that wasn't a roughing the passer call to begin with, but of course we see stuff like that a lot. But then if Rudolph's hand was stuck in Garrett's helmet, he might have been 1) afraid of risking injury somehow and was desperately trying to get it off, 2) was doing it in an excessive and aggressive manner in part because he WAS pissed about the way Garrett tackled him. THEN-- Garrett thinking that Rudolph was literally trying to tear his helmet off (which wasn't fully what Rudolph was trying to do, mainly get his hand out but was doing so in an aggressive manner), obviously Garrett was super pissed at this and decided to tear Rudolph's helmet off by the face mask. Either way it was completely inexcusable. If a guy tries to tear your helmet off, it's one thing to tear his off, but to tear it off by lifting him off the ground by the facemask?? And then HITTING said player square in the HEAD with a full force blow using a HELMET as a weapon???? Yeah, that was insane. Garrett has issues.
I think he's a weirdo anyway to be honest. Did anyone see that his mom specifically requested him to get that Sports Illustrated Body Issue spot and pose naked? I think that Body Issue thing is weird as hell anyway but it's weird that his mom pushed/requested him to do it and then she was there watching. Hmmmmm. Not that this explains his behavior tonight, I just think he's a different kinda dude. I'd be weirded out if my mom specifically pushed for me to randomly pose naked on a beach and then came and watched me do it, especially considering it's not like Garrett is a professional model nor has a history of modeling so like wtf? Random.
Pouncey kicking Garrett on the top of the head while he's pinned to the ground is pretty horrendous
With all these new flags for safety & reviews for 'getting it right' - holy shit - it sure isn't working. Freeman punching Donald who's got him by the head / neck iirc? OBJ choked out by was it Humphrey, the Bal DB? I don't know these were penalized or fined either fwiw. And THEN lets talk about the actual football...speaking of holy shit
Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line
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Is intolerable.
Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line
She deleted it pretty quickly but luckily someone screengrabbed it. Pretty quick turn around (and weird vendetta) if it’s a smear job, but it’s plausible I suppose.
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Is intolerable.
Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line
Josina deleted the tweet but it was screenshot by multiple people.
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In comment 14679849 colin said:
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Is intolerable.
Hmmm...Don't know how real that is because it is not anywhere on her twitter timeline. If anything she is saying Garrett was way out of line
Josina deleted the tweet but it was screenshot by multiple people.
Then that is pretty idiotic on her part and she deserves all the shit she's catching
Rudolph started it? I don't care if Rudolph called him names and spit in his face. Garrett ripped Rudolph's helmet off and not only swung that helmet at him, but actually hit him in the head with it. That is totally inexcusable no matter who started what.
Garrett already has a reputation for unsportsmanlike conduct and unnecessary roughness as he has been flagged 5 times already this year (according to ESPN). He has already been fined by the league too.
I truly hope that not only does Garrett get suspended for the rest of this year, but his suspension carries into next season (8 additional games to a full season). The NFL needs to come down hard and heavy especially with the emphasis on concussions.
It is a privilege to play in the NFL, not a right. He should be made an example of and the league should realize how different this could have been if he connected better with the helmet he turned into a weapon.
I’m not excusing Garrett’s reaction. To me Rudolph has justification to file criminal assault charges.
I am not seeing the intent to remove Garret's heet. I'll have to re-watch it a couple more times it seems like I'm in the minority.
I was thinking the same thing about what would have happened if he would have hit him with top of helmet.
Fortunately it didn’t seem to have any devastating impact on Rudolph
Yeah, I saw that. Plenty of blame to go around, but when you use a weapon that tends to inflate things. Rudolph, Pouncey and Ogigbah should all get (lesser) suspensions as well. The only one out of the original melee who comes out with any credit is the guy who tackled and subuded Garrett.
This guy has a history of this crap.
I am not seeing the intent to remove Garret's heet. I'll have to re-watch it a couple more times it seems like I'm in the minority.
Yeah, this asshole needs to be suspended for a few games as well. This is not getting enough attention.
As an opponent or a teammate?
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Yep Rudolph ignited the fire
I'm not defending Garrett. He literally tried to assault someone with a weapon. However, Rudolph overreacted to a late hit that was hardly Jim McMahon being bodyslammed.
Garrett should not be condoned. His actions will overshadow Rudolph’s. What if it was a black qb, Cam for example, in place of rudolph
If Bridgewater gets his helmet ripped off and bashed in the head by Watt it's still a big deal. No offense but this take exposes a fault in your mind's eye.
Racism is real and no doubt racists will hate this even more but you don't have to be one to see bashing someone in the head with a football helmet is bad.
Why does race always have to be mentioned.
Important reminder that you should never play without your cup.
No it wasn't! Stop with this NONSENSE!
Garrett had is helmet on.
However, if the core issue is losing control on a football field, I point out that:
A) Pouncey was not involved in the initial scrum of I presume escalating rage on the part of Rudolph and Garret
B) Intervenes several seconds later - when it was essentially over
C) Did not need to
D) Hits a guy being held on the ground
E) Moves around and standing kicks him in the head
imo, I don't know what actually happened with Rudolph, but it sure doesn't look right
Garret should get a substantial suspension
Pouncey is by far and away the most out of control, unfair and dirtiest player in the drama. And could have caused a concussion.
imo, Pouncey should get a long suspension and would not bother me if he got the longest.
Two guys got into it. One went over the top. Pouncey was actually the guy most out of control with minimal provocation for doing so
There's a narrative going around that Rudolph might've said something racist in that tussle. I think it stems from the fact that Mason rudolph is A Giant supporter of a certain Autocrat. It's unsubstantiated, but that's a theory going around.
That's the surprising thing. Until now, Garrett was praised for his character. But it's truly unacceptable and inexcusable.
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Damon Harrison similarly swung a helmet at teammate Will Hernandez in #Giants practice last year during a ‘no video allowed’ period. He missed. He was traded by midseason
We drove to NJ together and he told me that he got word to Kerry's father that he was attending the game. He said Kerry would try to get him down into the locker room. He told me I could tag along.
Wow! I was shocked and excited. He saw my excitement and I will never forget this....He told me that while for a first timer, it might be exciting...but don't forget that most of these guys are punks, bad actors, violent people.
Long story short, the coach was allowed in, but I was held outside. But his words stuck with me. We look back on our Giants in the 80's and 90's and more recently as heroes and superstars....and some are....but there are also a bunch of guys that if it weren't for football, they might take you out in an alley or kick your ass in a bar......or swing a helmet at a defenseless player without his.
"I lost my cool". And no actual apology.
Should be really interesting what Tomlin does in two weeks.
IMO Garrett and Pouncey need season long suspensions, and a whole slew of 4 game suspensions because you just can't have a bunch of these guys playing each other in 17 days.