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NFT: 11/15 Knicks Chat: We sweep KP!

LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/15/2019 9:09 am
If your eyes were closed last night with the game on. You might have thought it was Game 7 of the NBA Finals. The Garden was electric last night. This was the one game this year I had circled as a must win, for me at least. I wanted this game badly. It was nice that we swept this asshole too.



Fizdale who is a potato head, lame duck about to be fired head coach actually coached his best game of the year. He kept the rotations short, didn't do stupid shit lineups. And it seems like the Knicks actually moved with-and-without the ball. It's encouraging. But he should still be fired for Dave Joeger.

Couple Notes

-Knicks went 9-11 from the free throw line. Pop your champagne bottles!!!!!


Frank Ntilikina: He got into some foul trouble early (very questionable calls). Knocked down an open 3. Put the clamps on defense in the 4th with 5 fouls. He was very aggressive last night. Two CLUTCH free throws at the end of the game. The most impressive thing about him was his postgame comment. Something we have NEVER seen or heard him say or do.

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Frank Ntilikina:

“How can I get to the next level? By being a dog.”


Dennis Smith Jr: Came in early after Frank picked up 3 quick fouls. Immediately showed his athleticism by driving and finding Mitch and others for some easy buckets. His best game by far. He was pretty winded from logging heavy minutes. But hopefully he can continue to get back into game shape and be a positive for us.

RJ Barrett: Highlight of the night was his spin move off of Doncic at the top of the key, the drive and slam with the right hand. 100% FROM THE FREE THROW LINE (2-2). Finished with 8 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists.

Marcus Morris: Hit the dagger with the 3 at the end. Huge game from him. Keep improving that trade value.

Julius Randle: I tend to think he really believes in Fizdales stupid ass idea of ISO and comparing us to the Rockets. Randle thinks he has the greenlight to be James Harden or some shit. He could be effective if he had a defined role. He excels when the ball is moving and he can go downhill. He can't create. He's just not that player.

Robinson: Solid outing for Big Meech. 7-8 for 16 points. Was disrupting shots on the defensive end. Collecting 8 rebounds along the way before fouling out.

Other things: Knox came in and continued to show he can still knock down some shots. Which is encouraging. Same with Dotson. Doncic, an all-star. But also a bitch when it comes to playing. Constantly crying.

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as much as winning thursday was awesome  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:18 pm : link
it was probably the worst thing because fizdale kept his job
Saw a funny comment on RealGM...  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 10:43 pm : link
Fiz is better at developing the opposition’s young players than his own.
fizdale said  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:50 pm : link
he drew up the post ip play so randle could get a layup or a foul call..

there was 2.1 seconds left..

He is delusional
Randle  
TyreeHelmet : 11/17/2019 7:43 am : link
I know these clowns think they signed Lebron but is this guy treated like hes a franchise player? Refusing to bench him , drawing him all the last shots for him- it’s absurd. He’s on a 2 year deal that isn’t even that big. He deserves no special treatment. That ball needs to go Barrett.

Another terrible loss at home.
RE: Randle  
Mike in NJ : 11/17/2019 8:42 am : link
In comment 14681364 TyreeHelmet said:
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I know these clowns think they signed Lebron but is this guy treated like hes a franchise player? Refusing to bench him , drawing him all the last shots for him- it’s absurd. He’s on a 2 year deal that isn’t even that big. He deserves no special treatment. That ball needs to go Barrett.

Another terrible loss at home.


Randle is so frustrating to watch. You can see the potential there, he can be a good player offensively if he doesn't try to do too much. If he gets the ball off movement at the elbow and takes two dribbles to the rim he can be very effective, but this shit where they give it to him at the top of the key or on the wing and let him try to make a play just can't fucking happen. He made two big shots down the stretch, and then just completely negates it by taking an absolutely awful shot when we were up two and had a chance to close it out and then the garbage play our coach drew up. He can't be the feature player, he's just not suited for it. He needs to be the third option at best, he can thrive in that role.

I am so happy we aren't locked into this guy for more than two years. I really hope they explore trades with him, I think he has value to one of these borderline teams in the West like Portland, OKC, or Sacramento (once they realize Bagley is a Center). He would actually be a perfect fit in Dallas next to Doncic and Porzingis, but they have absolutely nothing of value to trade.
RE: RE: Randle  
TyreeHelmet : 11/17/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14681387 Mike in NJ said:
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In comment 14681364 TyreeHelmet said:


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I know these clowns think they signed Lebron but is this guy treated like hes a franchise player? Refusing to bench him , drawing him all the last shots for him- it’s absurd. He’s on a 2 year deal that isn’t even that big. He deserves no special treatment. That ball needs to go Barrett.

Another terrible loss at home.



Randle is so frustrating to watch. You can see the potential there, he can be a good player offensively if he doesn't try to do too much. If he gets the ball off movement at the elbow and takes two dribbles to the rim he can be very effective, but this shit where they give it to him at the top of the key or on the wing and let him try to make a play just can't fucking happen. He made two big shots down the stretch, and then just completely negates it by taking an absolutely awful shot when we were up two and had a chance to close it out and then the garbage play our coach drew up. He can't be the feature player, he's just not suited for it. He needs to be the third option at best, he can thrive in that role.

I am so happy we aren't locked into this guy for more than two years. I really hope they explore trades with him, I think he has value to one of these borderline teams in the West like Portland, OKC, or Sacramento (once they realize Bagley is a Center). He would actually be a perfect fit in Dallas next to Doncic and Porzingis, but they have absolutely nothing of value to trade.


They won't have the balls to trade Randle unless they get a haul ( which they won't) because he was their prized signing this summer. If they can get value for both, I'd try to trade him and Morris. But I would be trying to trade Randle 1st for sure.
They habe the makings of a good team  
nygiants16 : 11/17/2019 6:15 pm : link
they need a ppint guard and to remove 1 of morris or randle, i prefer randle even though i still think he can be a good piece..

Oh and they habe to get rid of this coach
i also wonder if randle would be better  
nygiants16 : 11/17/2019 8:13 pm : link
with a true point guard, a guy who can get him open looks, rather than randle having to creat his own shots every time..

Randle  
steve in ky : 11/17/2019 9:06 pm : link
I think he does some things well and likely is trying too hard to do things himself because he's trying to justify being the big contract he was given from the team.

He is only 24, he still has a lot of room to grow and mature himself. Once he learns to better play within himself, and they add a couple more good players around him he might settle into his role nicely and be a solid piece.
Taj  
MookGiants : 11/18/2019 7:22 pm : link
Gibson is laugh out loud bad, jeez.

Another dumb foul by Mitch.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2019 7:37 pm : link
Bumping a guard who has his back to the basket behind the three-point line. Fiz also said Mitch was at fault on the game-winner the other night. I love the guy, but he’s very much a project.
put knox on the bench  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2019 7:45 pm : link
doesnt want to play defense and just chucking up shots
Dotson playing well.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2019 7:49 pm : link
Might have to renew my Dotson Fan Club membership.
So tired of seeing Dolan  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2019 7:54 pm : link
slumped over in his courtside seat with that ugly mug of his.
5 posts during tonight's game, most  
LS : 11/18/2019 8:44 pm : link
trashing the players. Meanwhile, the Knicks are playing well, up 21 in the third quarter. Randle with 26.
Nice rebound from  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2019 8:48 pm : link
Saturday.
and people will still shit on randle  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2019 9:07 pm : link
good game tonight, past 2 games only 2 yurnovers, starting to let the game come to him
Randle is what, 24?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2019 9:12 pm : link
Still very young. And very good.
RJ suddenly shooting free throws well.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2019 9:13 pm : link
I like it. I like it a lot.
RE: RJ suddenly shooting free throws well.  
Eli Wilson : 11/18/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14683242 bceagle05 said:
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I like it. I like it a lot.

10 for last 12

Pretty good.
Fizdale finally settling on a rotation  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2019 9:51 pm : link
defense was very good tonight, and no fucking zone
RE: and people will still shit on randle  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/18/2019 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14683235 nygiants16 said:
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good game tonight, past 2 games only 2 yurnovers, starting to let the game come to him

Fizdale trying to make him a point forward was part of the TO story.
RE: RE: RJ suddenly shooting free throws well.  
steve in ky : 11/19/2019 2:58 am : link
In comment 14683260 Eli Wilson said:
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In comment 14683242 bceagle05 said:


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I like it. I like it a lot.


10 for last 12

Pretty good.


Fizdale backing off his minuets a little has helped IMO. He was getting a little overworked for a bit there.
Could you imagine if atkinson was the coach of the knicks?  
nygiants16 : 11/19/2019 8:38 am : link
i think he is a good coach who got the nets to overachieve last year and it got them kyrie and durant but his record is 95-164, ive never seen a coach in new york get such a pass..
Man, you can't measure CULTURE! by wins and losses.l  
Greg from LI : 11/19/2019 8:52 am : link
.
Watch this meme on  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/19/2019 9:22 am : link
the Knicks and nets. Hilarious.
Knicks aren’t that bad - ( New Window )
The Knicks  
Jon in NYC : 11/19/2019 10:04 am : link
are going to enter an absolutely brutal 8 game stretch, facing basically every top team in the East.
RE: The Knicks  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/19/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14683517 Jon in NYC said:
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are going to enter an absolutely brutal 8 game stretch, facing basically every top team in the East.


Sooooo 7-1? Lol
Media  
TyreeHelmet : 11/19/2019 11:35 am : link
I will say I am enjoying the early struggles of New Orleans and Brooklyn. I realize they both have injuries, but both these teams were so overhyped by the media this summer.
But the Nets have CULTURE, dammit!!!!  
Greg from LI : 11/19/2019 11:38 am : link
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Pelicans  
DanMetroMan : 11/19/2019 11:56 am : link
roster still is pretty exciting
Good  
DanMetroMan : 11/19/2019 12:07 pm : link
piece on LaMelo
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Media  
nygiants16 : 11/19/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14683654 TyreeHelmet said:
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I will say I am enjoying the early struggles of New Orleans and Brooklyn. I realize they both have injuries, but both these teams were so overhyped by the media this summer.


because they have friends in the media, both use woj as a mouthpiece..

Woj actually said the reason the nets sre bad right now is because they do not have a lot of talent around kyrie, but in the offseason lauded the nets..

at least you guys dont care  
hitdog42 : 11/19/2019 12:21 pm : link
about the nets
RE: at least you guys dont care  
nygiants16 : 11/19/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14683696 hitdog42 said:
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about the nets


just stating if atkinson was cosch of the knocks he would be in an extreme hot water right now...
RE: at least you guys dont care  
Greg from LI : 11/19/2019 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14683696 hitdog42 said:
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about the nets


Cmon, dude - all the blathering about CULTURE! around here and you don't expect to get razzed?
Elfrid Payton's hammy still hasn't healed.  
bceagle05 : 11/19/2019 1:21 pm : link
Will be re-evaluated in 10 days. The Frank Show continues against better competition.
the nets are unwatchable  
hitdog42 : 11/19/2019 1:24 pm : link
even when they were not great 2 yrs ago, the ball moved, they played hard and solid D.
now this year they are 1) injured 2) play zero defense which i cannot watch 3) dont move the ball 4) leads to thinking they are poorly coached and underappreciated what guys like Carroll and RHJ and Dudley meant for that culture.

so i agree with you guys, i just needed to chime in because there are often a lot of comments about not caring about the nets
Atkinson and Marks  
hitdog42 : 11/19/2019 1:25 pm : link
should absolutely be taking heat for this start, not because of win/loss as that is reversible over time... but the quality and style of play which is pathetic. and objectively i dont blame Kyrie at all---he has played hard and fine and Iso's no more than Dlo did. i blame the coach.
Damn  
DanMetroMan : 11/19/2019 2:43 pm : link
Iggy 16-28- 36 points, 6 boards 2 steals
RE: Damn  
Del Shofner : 11/19/2019 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14683876 DanMetroMan said:
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Iggy 16-28- 36 points, 6 boards 2 steals


yeah, I saw that - it's just the G League but still.
RE: RE: Damn  
DanMetroMan : 11/19/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14683906 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 14683876 DanMetroMan said:


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Iggy 16-28- 36 points, 6 boards 2 steals



yeah, I saw that - it's just the G League but still.


I like him. He has some limitations but I think he's going to be a solid NBA role player.
^^^^^^  
Del Shofner : 11/19/2019 3:20 pm : link
In terms of who Iggy might take playing time from, I think it would be Knox, who is not really taking advantage of his minutes so far this year.

Of course if we trade some guys, things may be different.
RE: Damn  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/19/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14683876 DanMetroMan said:
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Iggy 16-28- 36 points, 6 boards 2 steals


#MichiganMan

Not saying he's going to dominate the NBA. But he's Luka 2.0.
Man  
DanMetroMan : 11/19/2019 3:39 pm : link
Lavar Ball is a true trash human. LaMelo coming up wasn't sure he wanted to keep playing and his dad asked him what else would he possibly do?
I'm really  
Jon in NYC : 11/19/2019 3:43 pm : link
bummed about Knox. He's been pretty useless outside of marginally improved shooting.
I wouldn't mind keeping Morris around for a couple more years  
bceagle05 : 11/19/2019 4:09 pm : link
in case Knox doesn't develop as hoped. We don't need to bring in 10 new free agents every summer. We can keep a veteran around and maintain plenty of salary cap flexibility.
RE: Damn  
Giantz_comeback : 11/19/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14683876 DanMetroMan said:
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Iggy 16-28- 36 points, 6 boards 2 steals


He is probably better than most on the bottom half of the roster (or will be quickly after some development).
RE: Man  
Del Shofner : 11/19/2019 10:40 pm : link
In comment 14683950 DanMetroMan said:
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Lavar Ball is a true trash human. LaMelo coming up wasn't sure he wanted to keep playing and his dad asked him what else would he possibly do?


I read something similar in another article. Yeah, the dad is a piece of work. It's too bad because I think LaMelo looks like a player (I watched some extended highlights of his team in the Aussie league). Reminds me a little of Pete Maravich. But for the father, wouldn't mind seeing LaMelo on the Knicks. But the dad would make it into a constant circus, I expect.
Really don’t know what’s wrong with Knox. There are so many  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/19/2019 11:00 pm : link
players that need help developing so he’s probably not a priority. I’ve never seen a player so comfortable going 2-for-8 and hardly hustle to contribute anything else. That Las Vegas debut is a distant memory.

Not to beat a dead horse, but Mitchell instead of Frank and SGA instead of Knox....
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