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NFT: 11/15 Knicks Chat: We sweep KP!

LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/15/2019 9:09 am
If your eyes were closed last night with the game on. You might have thought it was Game 7 of the NBA Finals. The Garden was electric last night. This was the one game this year I had circled as a must win, for me at least. I wanted this game badly. It was nice that we swept this asshole too.



Fizdale who is a potato head, lame duck about to be fired head coach actually coached his best game of the year. He kept the rotations short, didn't do stupid shit lineups. And it seems like the Knicks actually moved with-and-without the ball. It's encouraging. But he should still be fired for Dave Joeger.

Couple Notes

-Knicks went 9-11 from the free throw line. Pop your champagne bottles!!!!!


Frank Ntilikina: He got into some foul trouble early (very questionable calls). Knocked down an open 3. Put the clamps on defense in the 4th with 5 fouls. He was very aggressive last night. Two CLUTCH free throws at the end of the game. The most impressive thing about him was his postgame comment. Something we have NEVER seen or heard him say or do.

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Frank Ntilikina:

“How can I get to the next level? By being a dog.”


Dennis Smith Jr: Came in early after Frank picked up 3 quick fouls. Immediately showed his athleticism by driving and finding Mitch and others for some easy buckets. His best game by far. He was pretty winded from logging heavy minutes. But hopefully he can continue to get back into game shape and be a positive for us.

RJ Barrett: Highlight of the night was his spin move off of Doncic at the top of the key, the drive and slam with the right hand. 100% FROM THE FREE THROW LINE (2-2). Finished with 8 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists.

Marcus Morris: Hit the dagger with the 3 at the end. Huge game from him. Keep improving that trade value.

Julius Randle: I tend to think he really believes in Fizdales stupid ass idea of ISO and comparing us to the Rockets. Randle thinks he has the greenlight to be James Harden or some shit. He could be effective if he had a defined role. He excels when the ball is moving and he can go downhill. He can't create. He's just not that player.

Robinson: Solid outing for Big Meech. 7-8 for 16 points. Was disrupting shots on the defensive end. Collecting 8 rebounds along the way before fouling out.

Other things: Knox came in and continued to show he can still knock down some shots. Which is encouraging. Same with Dotson. Doncic, an all-star. But also a bitch when it comes to playing. Constantly crying.

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this coach is fucking stupid  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 9:18 pm : link
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hornets playing zone  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 9:20 pm : link
so lets pass side to side 10 times
Fizdale has no interest in adjusting to what the opposing  
PhiPsi125 : 11/16/2019 9:22 pm : link
team is doing. Big staple of a bad coach. I’m not really sure what Fizdale actually does.
I have tried to think of a worse Knick coach  
steve in ky : 11/16/2019 9:25 pm : link
But can’t come up with one, and the Knicks have had some bad ones
thw team is stupid  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 9:26 pm : link
why are you going under a screen against this team, all they do ia shoot 3s
Frank!  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 9:31 pm : link
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Frank with a nice play  
steve in ky : 11/16/2019 9:32 pm : link
Good to see him getting more aggressive and look comfortable doing so
you run charlotte off the 3 point line  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 9:37 pm : link
they are garbage
One of the crazy Mark Jackson stories in Golden State  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 9:41 pm : link
is that he brought Steph Curry to his church so he could bless his injured ankles. If we hire him, he'll have to do the same for Mitch.
Dennis Smith  
MookGiants : 11/16/2019 9:44 pm : link
and Julius Randle are total losers. The Knicks can lose 65 games with or without those clowns, I'd prefer without.
This may be the Knicksiest loss of the year.  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 9:53 pm : link
2.1 seconds to get a game winner.
this team doesnt deserve knicks fans  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 9:53 pm : link
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Did Fizdale really run a play for the coldest player on the court?  
PhiPsi125 : 11/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
SMH
Must be nice to have shot-makers.  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
Maybe we'll prioritize that at some point in the 21st century.
Frank's mistake  
shyster : 11/16/2019 9:56 pm : link
took his attention off Graham.

Oh well. RJ and Mitch looked good. Not much else matters with this squad.
What kind of play was that?  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/16/2019 9:56 pm : link
Fiz deserves to be fired.
i hate this piece of shit coach  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 9:56 pm : link
takes out barrett to bring in ellington?

andhe runs a play for randle?
If Graham had missed that three pointer the refs would have  
PhiPsi125 : 11/16/2019 9:57 pm : link
called a foul anyway. It’s really what Graham was looking for anyway since he clearly “fell down” on purpose after the shot when he was untouched.
Fizdale has no feel for the game he is watching  
steve in ky : 11/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
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RE: Frank's mistake  
Eli Wilson : 11/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14681255 shyster said:
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took his attention off Graham.

Oh well. RJ and Mitch looked good. Not much else matters with this squad.


Why was Frank guarding two guys? Was there someone not guarding anyone?
fizdale really is a moron  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:00 pm : link
he is playing zone against a team that only shoots 3s, all they do is shoots 3s...

he doesnt adjust, he just uses stuff that works from the game before, he doesnt gameplan for the team they are playing..

why the fuck would you play zone against team that just shoots 3s?
I’m so sick of being a knicks fan  
GMEN46 : 11/16/2019 10:02 pm : link
How do you beat Dallas at home and then come back and lose to Charlotte!!! On your home court!!!! I hate this organization. They ruined my night
It’s unbelievable to have one shitty coach after another.  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/16/2019 10:02 pm : link
It’s just not fair to us to have management this competent.

Can’t blame Frank he thought Washington was going to hand off to Graham. Just a good design.

Instead of ours, Fiz sucks.
That one  
Carl in CT : 11/16/2019 10:02 pm : link
Hurt. I got nothing else.
How many times  
GMEN46 : 11/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
So we have to watch Randle and Morris on the court at the same time. And at one stretch in the 4th Randle, Morris and gibson!!!! That does not work. Randle has to go or come off the bench. I can’t stand watching him play.
As soon as fizdale took frank and mitch out the  
Giantfan21 : 11/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
Defense went to shit and allowed Charlotte to come back and win. Why the fuck is fizdale taking these guys out when they have a lead ?

Then the last play of the game he takes RJ out and runs a play for an iso randle ?

Fizdale is so bad . I dont even care though. Rj and mitch played great and thats all that matters. Another loss closer to fiz, mills, and perry being fired, and a good tank loss.
and why not have robinsoj up?  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:05 pm : link
if they score 2 who cares its overtime..how do you let the hottest shooter get open..

robinson should of been at the 3 point line
RE: RE: Frank's mistake  
shyster : 11/16/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14681262 Eli Wilson said:
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Why was Frank guarding two guys? Was there someone not guarding anyone?


Mitch was laying off PJ because he was way outside the arc. Frank ran over and left Graham.

Brainlock.


no no no - ( New Window )
the coach is just stupid  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
it is really that simple
RE: How many times  
Giantfan21 : 11/16/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14681270 GMEN46 said:
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So we have to watch Randle and Morris on the court at the same time. And at one stretch in the 4th Randle, Morris and gibson!!!! That does not work. Randle has to go or come off the bench. I can’t stand watching him play.


This team would be a lot better if RJ was playing the 3, morris, the 4, and mitch at 5 . I hate the way randle plays. He kills ball movement, he thinks hes a PG which leads to TO, He kills spacing at the 4 , and he's a sieve on Defense
Whoever they bring in will blow anyway, you just know it.  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/16/2019 10:07 pm : link
No sense complaining about anything with this team. Nothing will change until Mills leaves. This offseason gave me a big pause on Perry also.

Knicks schedule  
GMEN46 : 11/16/2019 10:09 pm : link
After cleveland, I don’t see how they win any of their next 10 games before golden state comes to the garden. I think knicks will have fiz coach the next 11 in which they will probably go 1-10 or 2-9 at best m. Fire Fiz and then let the interim coach start with golden state at home.
I agree Randle is a big issue.  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 10:11 pm : link
Barrett, Morris and Knox is fine as a forward rotation, with Mitch at the five. Taj and Portis can be sprinkled in as needed.
RE: Knicks schedule  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:11 pm : link
In comment 14681281 GMEN46 said:
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After cleveland, I don’t see how they win any of their next 10 games before golden state comes to the garden. I think knicks will have fiz coach the next 11 in which they will probably go 1-10 or 2-9 at best m. Fire Fiz and then let the interim coach start with golden state at home.


they are losijg to cleveland on monday..
Giantsfan21  
GMEN46 : 11/16/2019 10:12 pm : link
I completely agree. Starting line up should be Mitch Morris barret Dotson and Frank. Dotson is a really good defender and give him minutes and he will hit some shots and make some plays. Let randle, knox, Smith jr and Gibson come off the bench. I don’t need portis playing any minutes.
and why was frank stanfing with graham in backcourt?  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
let him come tp you so you are not chasing
Just to clarify  
GMEN46 : 11/16/2019 10:13 pm : link
I was not counting Cleveland as a win, I was just thinks it’s a winnable game. After that I don’t think they have a shot in any of their next 10 games. They very well could have just started a 12 game losing streak tonight.
as much as winning thursday was awesome  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:18 pm : link
it was probably the worst thing because fizdale kept his job
Saw a funny comment on RealGM...  
bceagle05 : 11/16/2019 10:43 pm : link
Fiz is better at developing the opposition’s young players than his own.
fizdale said  
nygiants16 : 11/16/2019 10:50 pm : link
he drew up the post ip play so randle could get a layup or a foul call..

there was 2.1 seconds left..

He is delusional
Randle  
TyreeHelmet : 11/17/2019 7:43 am : link
I know these clowns think they signed Lebron but is this guy treated like hes a franchise player? Refusing to bench him , drawing him all the last shots for him- it’s absurd. He’s on a 2 year deal that isn’t even that big. He deserves no special treatment. That ball needs to go Barrett.

Another terrible loss at home.
RE: Randle  
Mike in NJ : 11/17/2019 8:42 am : link
In comment 14681364 TyreeHelmet said:
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I know these clowns think they signed Lebron but is this guy treated like hes a franchise player? Refusing to bench him , drawing him all the last shots for him- it’s absurd. He’s on a 2 year deal that isn’t even that big. He deserves no special treatment. That ball needs to go Barrett.

Another terrible loss at home.


Randle is so frustrating to watch. You can see the potential there, he can be a good player offensively if he doesn't try to do too much. If he gets the ball off movement at the elbow and takes two dribbles to the rim he can be very effective, but this shit where they give it to him at the top of the key or on the wing and let him try to make a play just can't fucking happen. He made two big shots down the stretch, and then just completely negates it by taking an absolutely awful shot when we were up two and had a chance to close it out and then the garbage play our coach drew up. He can't be the feature player, he's just not suited for it. He needs to be the third option at best, he can thrive in that role.

I am so happy we aren't locked into this guy for more than two years. I really hope they explore trades with him, I think he has value to one of these borderline teams in the West like Portland, OKC, or Sacramento (once they realize Bagley is a Center). He would actually be a perfect fit in Dallas next to Doncic and Porzingis, but they have absolutely nothing of value to trade.
RE: RE: Randle  
TyreeHelmet : 11/17/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14681387 Mike in NJ said:
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In comment 14681364 TyreeHelmet said:


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I know these clowns think they signed Lebron but is this guy treated like hes a franchise player? Refusing to bench him , drawing him all the last shots for him- it’s absurd. He’s on a 2 year deal that isn’t even that big. He deserves no special treatment. That ball needs to go Barrett.

Another terrible loss at home.



Randle is so frustrating to watch. You can see the potential there, he can be a good player offensively if he doesn't try to do too much. If he gets the ball off movement at the elbow and takes two dribbles to the rim he can be very effective, but this shit where they give it to him at the top of the key or on the wing and let him try to make a play just can't fucking happen. He made two big shots down the stretch, and then just completely negates it by taking an absolutely awful shot when we were up two and had a chance to close it out and then the garbage play our coach drew up. He can't be the feature player, he's just not suited for it. He needs to be the third option at best, he can thrive in that role.

I am so happy we aren't locked into this guy for more than two years. I really hope they explore trades with him, I think he has value to one of these borderline teams in the West like Portland, OKC, or Sacramento (once they realize Bagley is a Center). He would actually be a perfect fit in Dallas next to Doncic and Porzingis, but they have absolutely nothing of value to trade.


They won't have the balls to trade Randle unless they get a haul ( which they won't) because he was their prized signing this summer. If they can get value for both, I'd try to trade him and Morris. But I would be trying to trade Randle 1st for sure.
They habe the makings of a good team  
nygiants16 : 11/17/2019 6:15 pm : link
they need a ppint guard and to remove 1 of morris or randle, i prefer randle even though i still think he can be a good piece..

Oh and they habe to get rid of this coach
i also wonder if randle would be better  
nygiants16 : 11/17/2019 8:13 pm : link
with a true point guard, a guy who can get him open looks, rather than randle having to creat his own shots every time..

Randle  
steve in ky : 11/17/2019 9:06 pm : link
I think he does some things well and likely is trying too hard to do things himself because he's trying to justify being the big contract he was given from the team.

He is only 24, he still has a lot of room to grow and mature himself. Once he learns to better play within himself, and they add a couple more good players around him he might settle into his role nicely and be a solid piece.
Taj  
MookGiants : 11/18/2019 7:22 pm : link
Gibson is laugh out loud bad, jeez.

Another dumb foul by Mitch.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2019 7:37 pm : link
Bumping a guard who has his back to the basket behind the three-point line. Fiz also said Mitch was at fault on the game-winner the other night. I love the guy, but he’s very much a project.
put knox on the bench  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2019 7:45 pm : link
doesnt want to play defense and just chucking up shots
Dotson playing well.  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2019 7:49 pm : link
Might have to renew my Dotson Fan Club membership.
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