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| George Young, who should be in the NFL Hall of Fame, answered every message. Ernie Accorsi was cut from the same cloth. Even when social media was emerging Jerry Reese always had a bye-week session with the media, even in the darkest of times. |
Doubt he would say anything of note if he did, JR never really revealed anything useful when he did it.
Reports are upset he is not saying anything because they have nothing more to write about.
Nothing good comes from making a statement at this point. Our record is our statement.
If he opens his mouth, people will be analyzing not only every word but the inflection in his voice just to come away with some indication about the future.
How will any of this help the team? It doesn't, and only serve to feed the nonsense that is the media.
p.s.--The media wants him to speak so that they can bash whatever he says. That's how they get clicks. There's only so much blood they can suck out of Gettleman from a distance.
That said, who cares. As others have pointed out, little would come from such an effort anyway.
Those who are old enough remember when Neil was the even-keeled guy on the Giants beat and on the old reporters shows with Pat Hanlon, can understand that when he notes how accessible Young and Accorsi were compared to Gettleman, this is a pretty stark contrast.
I'd love to ask Pat why in two years the Giants have completely changed their PR and fan outreach philosophy.
Gettleman put together this mess of a team that Shurmur has to coach. Granted, Shurmur looks incapable as a HC, but at least he answers for his struggles.
Furthermore, Gettleman is responsible for the hiring of Shurmur. I believe none of this nonsense that Mara hires that position independent of the GM. Mara may have final signature, which makes sense, but that is usually a rubber stamp for the GM’s choice.
Almost all of these games are won or lost before they are played. And that’s a reflection of the GM’s ability or inability to assemble the right talent. So Gettleman clearly has a huge stake in the product on the field.
Now is the perfect time for Gettleman to answer questions about the State of the Giants. He sure the f-ck has no problem telling everyone how prolific his resume is. Well, get out there and tell us where you’ve gone wrong here...
Those who are old enough remember when Neil was the even-keeled guy on the Giants beat and on the old reporters shows with Pat Hanlon, can understand that when he notes how accessible Young and Accorsi were compared to Gettleman, this is a pretty stark contrast.
I'd love to ask Pat why in two years the Giants have completely changed their PR and fan outreach philosophy.
Because even they recognize despite public denials and blanket statements of faux outrage that they’ve become a dreg team in the NFL and are an embarrassment on the field. Fans are sick and tired of excuses and five out of six years of some really awful football.
Doubt he would say anything of note if he did, JR never really revealed anything useful when he did it.
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Gettleman put together this mess of a team that Shurmur has to coach. Granted, Shurmur looks incapable as a HC, but at least he answers for his struggles.
Furthermore, Gettleman is responsible for the hiring of Shurmur. I believe none of this nonsense that Mara hires that position independent of the GM. Mara may have final signature, which makes sense, but that is usually a rubber stamp for the GM’s choice.
Almost all of these games are won or lost before they are played. And that’s a reflection of the GM’s ability or inability to assemble the right talent. So Gettleman clearly has a huge stake in the product on the field.
Now is the perfect time for Gettleman to answer questions about the State of the Giants. He sure the f-ck has no problem telling everyone how prolific his resume is. Well, get out there and tell us where you’ve gone wrong here...
Why the hell should DG speak? There’s nothing he’s gonna say to make you happy. The only thing that comes of that is you and others ridiculing everything he says, parsing some innocuous quotes and making them some huge deal and requiring those comments for the next year. You have zero interest in what he has to say. You just want another pound of flesh and more reasons to bitch about him.
I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve some/most of it, but him speaking serves no purpose other than to give fans more reasons to complain. Constantly. You don’t give a rats ass what he has to say. And you know it.
Gettleman's act probably isn't an act, that's just who he is. I can't imagine he's inspiring to work for or be around. I find him grating and foolish.
He's not the type to put himself out there regularly. He only comes out when he thinks he's got the ammo to be smug and tell the public how clever he was at doing something.
What's he going to say mid season? The coach I hired is a mess, the line I fixed is a disaster, and the defensive I hand picked is literally the worst in the league?
Exhibit A...
They aren't going to say anything that is going to make you happy anyway.
They aren't going to say anything that is going to make you happy anyway.
Like in any business, if management can publicly express a self aware, reflective, and honest assessment of their operation, paying customers and investors feel more comfortable giving the business more money. No different for Gettleman.
They aren't going to say anything that is going to make you happy anyway.
Exactly. And using the Knicks as an example?
Ehhhhh.
No, the Giants biggest issue is the silent guy's league worst defense and horrendous defense.
What matters is what they do on the field. Him telling me they know they have issues on the OL (or the OL isn't as bad as fans think) is just background noise.
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never really understood the need from some fans to hear from owners or general managers during the season.
They aren't going to say anything that is going to make you happy anyway.
Like in any business, if management can publicly express a self aware, reflective, and honest assessment of their operation, paying customers and investors feel more comfortable giving the business more money. No different for Gettleman.
I wasn’t aware the Giants were listed on the NYSE.
[quote] What are they going to say? We are disappointed? That goes without saying.
Nothing good comes from making a statement at this point. Our record is our statement.
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I can't remember any remarkable open press interviews with Accorsi, Reese, or Gettleman other than stuff like Accorsi's obsession with Bert Jones, Reese's dismissiveness, and Gettleman shtick.
I can't remember any remarkable open press interviews with Accorsi, Reese, or Gettleman other than stuff like Accorsi's obsession with Bert Jones, Reese's dismissiveness, and Gettleman shtick.
I had forgotten about those George Young interviews with the original Inside Football editor. Those were great! I also looked forward to them.
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never really understood the need from some fans to hear from owners or general managers during the season.
They aren't going to say anything that is going to make you happy anyway.
Like in any business, if management can publicly express a self aware, reflective, and honest assessment of their operation, paying customers and investors feel more comfortable giving the business more money. No different for Gettleman.
I wasn’t aware the Giants were listed on the NYSE.
If Gettleman articulated a cogent plan and deep self awareness of where the team is and is going publicly, do you believe fans are more or less likely to spend money supporting the team? Do you believe Mara/Tisch are more likely to greenlight long-term, guaranteed dollars to the players he desires this offseason?
Having general management that can express himself and the situation of the team, the prospect of the existing talent, and lay out a confident, self-reflective vision can only help.
Ducking the media, and only speaking when he acquires players and kisses his own ass a little can only hurt.
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never really understood the need from some fans to hear from owners or general managers during the season.
They aren't going to say anything that is going to make you happy anyway.
Like in any business, if management can publicly express a self aware, reflective, and honest assessment of their operation, paying customers and investors feel more comfortable giving the business more money. No different for Gettleman.
I wasn’t aware the Giants were listed on the NYSE.
I understand this thinking completely, but they did mandate PSL's for the stadium. The value of those PSL's is now far less than when purchased.
Either way, any business succeeds when they have confidence in the CEO. not so much here right now.
DG gave an interview on the Williams trade to Michael Eisen of giants.com.
That's a Q and A press release, not facing the media.
DG has in fact been consistent as a GM in not talking to the media during the regular season, including the year Panthers were 15-1.
The article acknowledges that but does make an unsupported comment about Mara when it says that "Normally, Mara would have spoken by now."
That comment comes with a link to a Schwartz article from November of last year, but there are no in-season quotes from Mara in that article. The Schwartz article mentions how unhappy Mara was after the Jax loss in 2014 but Mara didn't talk about it publicly until after the season.
I'm not defending Gettleman. I just don't see the upside for the organization. Potential free agents and future coaches are not watching if Gettleman is holding a press conference during the bye week. This isn't even on their radar.
Give me silence.
Sometimes saying nothing is the better option.
I'm not defending Gettleman. I just don't see the upside for the organization. Potential free agents and future coaches are not watching if Gettleman is holding a press conference during the bye week. This isn't even on their radar.
Do you think the NFL at large views Gettleman and the Giants operation as well managed and on the right track right now? Why would it hurt if Gettleman was out in front, instilling some confidence and owning the situation publicly?
They've won seven games in two years. They are one of the worst teams in the NFL and were just beaten by one of the worst teams in the NFL. It may get worse if and when the Dolphins and Redskins beat them.
Holding a bye week presser, that few will pay attention to, isn't going to change the public perception of the organization.
The Giants are what their record says they are. They are who they have been as an organization - an organization that has fired a GM, VP of player evaluation, and two coaching staffs in the last few years. That's what people are paying attention to.
There’s nothing he can say that will make fans happy. He won’t talk about what he plans to do in FA to improve the team. He won’t talk about the draft.
For this fan, if Gettleman went out and said, the Giants are having a tough year, but they are committed to making tough decisions like elevating Jones, are excited about young players like Slayton, Lawrence, and others, that they will uncover every stone to bring in players like Williams, and that every person on the roster and staff will be held accountable over the next 7 games. I'd feel encouraged.
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The most concerning thing about the giants right now is DG’s silence. Gimme a break.
No, the Giants biggest issue is the silent guy's league worst defense and horrendous defense.
I agree but the article said my exact quote. And that is ridiculous and pointless, just like nearly everything from the sports media these days.
I wasn’t aware the Giants were listed on the NYSE.
I wasn't either...
It may get worse if and when the Dolphins and Redskins beat them.
Holding a bye week presser, that few will pay attention to, isn't going to change the public perception of the organization.
Right... and saying anything just creates more distractions for the team. At this point with the season over, I also hope they lose to the fins and skins. We need to finish dead last if we expect significant changes.
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I wasn’t aware the Giants were listed on the NYSE.
I wasn't either...
The guy manages a 150M a year budget and has his hands on a few times more in potential commitments.
Winning is the best way to generate revenue for the team.
Maybe the problem is the Giants don't operate like a publicly traded company in some respects?