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mattlawson : 11/19/2019 2:46 pm
Two federal prison guards, who were on duty at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in mid-August when financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead, were charged on Tuesday in connection with their alleged failure to properly check on Epstein as ordered.

Why it matters: These are the first charges to emerge from a criminal inquiry into Epstein's death, which has prompted investigations and the removal of the director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
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yikes  
GMAN4LIFE : 11/19/2019 2:47 pm : link
this will get good
...  
26.2 : 11/19/2019 2:48 pm : link
In other news, 2 former prison guards paid handsomely for looking the other way
#Epsteindidnotkillhimself  
BocaGene : 11/19/2019 2:48 pm : link
.
"Get yourself  
The Dude : 11/19/2019 2:51 pm : link
a fall guy " - Chris Carter
.  
Greg from LI : 11/19/2019 2:55 pm : link
"Don't get me mixed up with Cris Carter"  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/19/2019 2:58 pm : link

-Chris Carter
In one of the articles  
pjcas18 : 11/19/2019 3:01 pm : link
there was an accounting of what the guards were doing.
It said sleeping and conducting internet searches of sports sites and motorcycle sales.

My mind immediately went to what the article would say about me when I get caught up in some scandal.

pjcas18 was posting about meatloaf recipes and laughing at twitter memes.

probably not the best look during working hours even though I'm not responsible for security of pedophiles/criminals
These Prison Guards are going to get squeezed until they give up  
No Where Man : 11/19/2019 3:02 pm : link
the people behind this "murder".
RE: These Prison Guards are going to get squeezed until they give up  
pjcas18 : 11/19/2019 3:06 pm : link
In comment 14683895 No Where Man said:
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the people behind this "murder".


Someone should guard the prison guards. but only don't do it with more prison guards.
These guards will be dead  
RodneyHamp : 11/19/2019 3:08 pm : link
soon.
RE: These guards will be dead  
pjcas18 : 11/19/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14683905 RodneyHamp said:
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soon.


Suicide?
RE: In one of the articles  
BlueLou'sBack : 11/19/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14683894 pjcas18 said:
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there was an accounting of what the guards were doing.
It said sleeping and conducting internet searches of sports sites and motorcycle sales.

My mind immediately went to what the article would say about me when I get caught up in some scandal.

pjcas18 was posting about meatloaf recipes and laughing at twitter memes.

probably not the best look during working hours even though I'm not responsible for security of pedophiles/criminals


On the bright side, the prison guards weren't looking at porn and masturbating, or hosing down female inmates or co-workers, or ahem, having anal intercourse with any male inmates... or each other.
RE: RE: These guards will be dead  
RodneyHamp : 11/19/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14683907 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14683905 RodneyHamp said:


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soon.



Suicide?



Clearly.
One of the  
Pete in MD : 11/19/2019 3:14 pm : link
guards being charged shares a name with NYG backup safety Michael Thomas. Insert poor "guarding" joke here.
Workers sleeping on the midnight shift?  
MOOPS : 11/19/2019 3:15 pm : link


I'm shocked.
REDRUM  
x meadowlander : 11/19/2019 3:19 pm : link
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They will each die from  
cjac : 11/19/2019 3:19 pm : link
2 self inflicted gunshot wounds to the head
.  
lawguy9801 : 11/19/2019 3:28 pm : link
'2 former prison guards paid handsomely for looking the other way'  
Torrag : 11/19/2019 4:15 pm : link
The point is they won't be spending it any time soon if convicted.
Yeah ... no chance these "guards"  
Beezer : 11/19/2019 4:22 pm : link
will be alive this time next year. Regardless of their ages or current overall health.
RE: These guards will be dead  
Mr. Bungle : 11/19/2019 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14683905 RodneyHamp said:
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soon.

#TheGuardsWhoLookedTheOtherWayWhenEpsteinDidNotKillHimselfDidNotKillThemselves
...  
christian : 11/19/2019 4:32 pm : link
I just wish there was an investigation that was trying to get to the bottom of this and not accepting the corrupt and blind story that ... wait, shit looks there is. What else is there now to complain about?
Explain how Ghislaine Maxwell  
RobCrossRiver56 : 11/19/2019 5:07 pm : link

is walking around as a free woman?
RE: Explain how Ghislaine Maxwell  
widmerseyebrow : 11/19/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14684043 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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is walking around as a free woman?


I think she's in hiding. There was a photo put out by one of her associates that showed her sitting at an In-n-Out in Los Angeles, but it looks like it was faked. Methinks she knows she's in deep shit if she isn't dead.
Those guards  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/19/2019 6:21 pm : link
are like Star Trek ensigns on an away mission.
Interesting week for this case,  
732NYG : 11/19/2019 6:35 pm : link
first, all the stuff with Prince Andrew, and now this.
RE: ...  
madgiantscow009 : 11/19/2019 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14684015 christian said:
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I just wish there was an investigation that was trying to get to the bottom of this and not accepting the corrupt and blind story that ... wait, shit looks there is. What else is there now to complain about?


not surprised by this comment. You, overseer, and jiminfairfax wanted to get my other thread on this railroaded from the start. Not sure why you support pedos.
RE: RE: ...  
christian : 11/19/2019 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14684119 madgiantscow009 said:
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In comment 14684015 christian said:


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I just wish there was an investigation that was trying to get to the bottom of this and not accepting the corrupt and blind story that ... wait, shit looks there is. What else is there now to complain about?



not surprised by this comment. You, overseer, and jiminfairfax wanted to get my other thread on this railroaded from the start. Not sure why you support pedos.


Bwahhahahha. I really appreciate when the whackadoos shake out. Good context for future conversation.

Criminal proceedings against characters involved will shine an investigatory light on the matter. If something more sordid occurred, this is a good thing.

You do agree this is a good thing right? There wasn't enough scrutiny by authorities and this needs to be looked into further?
Stand by for the plane or helicopter crash  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/19/2019 8:53 pm : link
....I mean who would profit from Epsteins death?
FBI investigating possibility of 'criminal enterprise' in Epstein case  
mattlawson : 11/19/2019 8:57 pm : link
"As I see it there are two -- and only two -- possibilities for what happened with Jeffrey Epstein," Cruz continued.

"No. 1, there was gross negligence and a total failure of BOP to do its job with a prisoner on suicide watch that led to Epstein committing suicide," he said. "Or No. 2, something far worse happened, that it was not suicide but rather a homicide carried out by a person or persons who wanted Epstein silenced. Either one of those is completely unacceptable. Both of those are profound indictments of BOP and our federal incarceration system.”
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RE: Those guards  
Johnny5 : 11/19/2019 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14684109 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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are like Star Trek ensigns on an away mission.
Yes and their shirts are always the color of your first name. lol
RE: RE: Explain how Ghislaine Maxwell  
flycatcher : 11/19/2019 10:37 pm : link
In comment 14684046 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 14684043 RobCrossRiver56 said:


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is walking around as a free woman?



I think she's in hiding. There was a photo put out by one of her associates that showed her sitting at an In-n-Out in Los Angeles, but it looks like it was faked. Methinks she knows she's in deep shit if she isn't dead.

She’s untouchable and protected. That in-n-out photo was strange; cryptically photoshopped, and in it she was reading a book about espionage. After all, her dad was famous “super spy” Robert Maxwel - there’s speculation that she’s also an IC asset , but not necessarily one of ours.
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Epstein was murderd.  
chiro56 : 11/19/2019 11:40 pm : link
Anyone with 2 working Brain cells knows that. The People that ended his life are above the Attorney Generals pay grade for him to do anything. Most realize that.These guards will be prosecuted for not doing their job. Thats as far as this will go. The good that comes from this is a few more folks will question the Horse Shit they have been fed about most everything. At least for a few weeks.
RE: RE: These guards will be dead  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/20/2019 6:27 am : link
In comment 14683907 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14683905 RodneyHamp said:


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soon.



Suicide?


Too coincidental. They will find their bodies burned and the NY ME will go w spontaneous combustion.
RE: Epstein was murderd.  
section125 : 11/20/2019 7:06 am : link
In comment 14684258 chiro56 said:
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Anyone with 2 working Brain cells knows that. The People that ended his life are above the Attorney Generals pay grade for him to do anything. Most realize that.These guards will be prosecuted for not doing their job. Thats as far as this will go. The good that comes from this is a few more folks will question the Horse Shit they have been fed about most everything. At least for a few weeks.


Me thinks that the AG is able to do his job. He is significantly more capable than those who held the position since....well he was AG last time.

But, let's wait to see what happens. There are opposing views on his death(I lean to "assisted" suicide, also). I'd love to see how this fully plays out, and I mean fully. Pretty obvious Prince Andrew is toast...
RE: RE: Epstein was murderd.  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 11/20/2019 8:12 am : link
In comment 14684306 section125 said:
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In comment 14684258 chiro56 said:


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Anyone with 2 working Brain cells knows that. The People that ended his life are above the Attorney Generals pay grade for him to do anything. Most realize that.These guards will be prosecuted for not doing their job. Thats as far as this will go. The good that comes from this is a few more folks will question the Horse Shit they have been fed about most everything. At least for a few weeks.



Me thinks that the AG is able to do his job. He is significantly more capable than those who held the position since....well he was AG last time.

But, let's wait to see what happens. There are opposing views on his death(I lean to "assisted" suicide, also). I'd love to see how this fully plays out, and I mean fully. Pretty obvious Prince Andrew is toast...


Not to get too political but....you're referring to the current AG William Barr, correct? As the most competent AG since himself in the 90s?

Alrighty then. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
RE: RE: RE: Epstein was murderd.  
section125 : 11/20/2019 8:31 am : link
In comment 14684347 Cap'n Bluebeard said:
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Not to get too political but....you're referring to the current AG William Barr, correct? As the most competent AG since himself in the 90s?

Alrighty then. We'll just have to agree to disagree.


That is fine. At least Barr got proactive and fired the BOP boss within days, that is why I am hopeful.

You were right - I actually liked Janet Reno.

You know, not everything is political. Sometimes people can actually have preferences not based on red and blue. If you noticed I trashed each flavor.
Who..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/20/2019 8:40 am : link
the fuck doesn't like Janet Reno??

Maybe...  
BamaBlue : 11/20/2019 9:18 am : link
In comment 14684364 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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RE: Who.. the fuck doesn't like Janet Reno??


Here's one candidate....

HA!!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/20/2019 9:28 am : link
That's pretty damn good!
Video from Epstein's Cell released...  
BamaBlue : 11/20/2019 9:47 am : link
It's a little grainy, but this should put some of the rumors...

RE: Explain how Ghislaine Maxwell  
DCGMan : 11/20/2019 10:37 am : link
In comment 14684043 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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is walking around as a free woman?


She's tied to the intelligence community.
RE: RE: RE: Epstein was murderd.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/20/2019 10:47 am : link
In comment 14684347 Cap'n Bluebeard said:
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In comment 14684306 section125 said:


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In comment 14684258 chiro56 said:


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Anyone with 2 working Brain cells knows that. The People that ended his life are above the Attorney Generals pay grade for him to do anything. Most realize that.These guards will be prosecuted for not doing their job. Thats as far as this will go. The good that comes from this is a few more folks will question the Horse Shit they have been fed about most everything. At least for a few weeks.



Me thinks that the AG is able to do his job. He is significantly more capable than those who held the position since....well he was AG last time.

But, let's wait to see what happens. There are opposing views on his death(I lean to "assisted" suicide, also). I'd love to see how this fully plays out, and I mean fully. Pretty obvious Prince Andrew is toast...



Not to get too political but....you're referring to the current AG William Barr, correct? As the most competent AG since himself in the 90s?

Alrighty then. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Pretty much says it all about our politicians that Epstein operated openly during previous administrations.
RE: FBI investigating possibility of 'criminal enterprise' in Epstein case  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/20/2019 10:51 am : link
In comment 14684170 mattlawson said:
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"As I see it there are two -- and only two -- possibilities for what happened with Jeffrey Epstein," Cruz continued.

"No. 1, there was gross negligence and a total failure of BOP to do its job with a prisoner on suicide watch that led to Epstein committing suicide," he said. "Or No. 2, something far worse happened, that it was not suicide but rather a homicide carried out by a person or persons who wanted Epstein silenced. Either one of those is completely unacceptable. Both of those are profound indictments of BOP and our federal incarceration system.” Link - ( New Window )

Or no 3, he's still alive.
This has...  
Brown_Hornet : 11/20/2019 12:42 pm : link
...Rudy's fingerprints all over it.
RE: This has...  
BamaBlue : 11/20/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14684719 Brown_Hornet said:
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...Rudy's fingerprints all over it.


RE: This has...  
x meadowlander : 11/20/2019 12:57 pm : link
In comment 14684719 Brown_Hornet said:
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...Rudy's fingerprints all over it.
How's that? What previous 'secret murders' have Rudy Giuliani been accused of?

Given Epstein's suspected clients list, it's impossible to say who gave the order.
I love that everyone here speaks about this with....  
Crispino : 11/20/2019 4:08 pm : link
such certainty, as if they have inside information about Epstein’s death. He may have been murdered, or he may have offed himself as a result of a couple of guards slacking off. Either is possible, but everyone here acts as if they know the answer. It’s our conspiracy mentality.
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Brown_Hornet : 11/20/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14684744 x meadowlander said:
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In comment 14684719 Brown_Hornet said:


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...Rudy's fingerprints all over it.

How's that? What previous 'secret murders' have Rudy Giuliani been accused of?

Given Epstein's suspected clients list, it's impossible to say who gave the order.
Really?

ok?
RE: I love that everyone here speaks about this with....  
christian : 11/20/2019 5:54 pm : link
In comment 14684920 Crispino said:
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such certainty, as if they have inside information about Epstein’s death. He may have been murdered, or he may have offed himself as a result of a couple of guards slacking off. Either is possible, but everyone here acts as if they know the answer. It’s our conspiracy mentality.


Exactly. You have a criminal with high profile connections and potential accomplices facing a lifetime in jail.

Now said criminal dies in what should have been a supervised environment. A thorough investigation is warranted. Sounds like that's happening. Congress and the FBI are involved.

Three weeks before he died he's found injured with signs of an attempted suicide. He's put in a suicide protocol. He's evaluated by a psychiatrist.

Now my logical side says self, either this man was suicidal or his life was critically threatened. If it's the latter, he doesn't go to the authorities, the mental health worker, or his attorney?

If it's the former, is it really surprising this man killed himself?
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