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Friday Transcript: Head Coach Pat Shurmur

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/29/2019 3:39 pm
Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- November 29, 2019

Opening Statement: The guys who didnít practiceó Zak (DeOssie) didnít practice, Rhett Ellison is still in the protocol, Evan (Engram) practiced, Jabrill (Peppers) didnít. Or no, excuse me, Evan didnít practice, Jabrill didnít practice and neither did Golden (Tate). The guys who are out, weíve got to wait and see on Zak here, see if heíll be able to go. But Rhett Ellison wonít go, Evan wonít go, Jabrill wonít go and Golden wonít go. I can tell you that at this point. Otherwise Iíll just take your questions.

Q: So, Zakís not going on IR as itís reported?
A: Zak DeOssie? I canít say that at this point. I donít know that. But he hasnít been able to practice this week, so weíll just have to see as the rest of the week unfolds.

Q: Didnít he practice Wednesday, Pat?
A: No, he wasnítÖ Or, Wednesday yeah. But he hadnít practiced yesterday and today.

Q: He got hurt in practice Wednesday?
A: No, I think in the Jets game he got banged up a little bit. He was just fighting through it being a tough guy. He was just unable to go Thursday and Friday.

Q: Do you think that had something to do with his bad snaps the last couple of weeks?
A: I donít know that. Listen, Zakís been a guy around here who has played at a high level. Heís a big-time Giant, and Iím sure heís played through soreness in his career. This is just something thatís kind of revealed itself.

Q: (Golden) Tate is another guy who has been diagnosed with a concussion after the fact. Is that a concern at all that somethingís kind of not going right with that process?
A: The process of concussions? Listen, the one thing we know about concussions is the symptoms can come up immediately and we all know, and itís happened probably to every team, the symptoms we know can sort of show up the day after. Each situation is different, each injury is different. I donít have any way to quantify my concerns about it happening a day later or immediately.

Q: How difficult of a test do you think this is for the four young DBs going against Rodgers and that offense? How do you think they did against Chicago?
A: I think they are getting better each week. Weíre going to haveÖ Jabrill wonít be able to go, so Julian Love, another rookie, will start in his place. Weíre sort of glad heís been able to get reps here the last few weeks. We look forward to him playing well. Listen, theyíve got to go out and battle. Aaron Rodgers has made veteran defensive backs look not so good. So, weíve just got to go out and battle and do what we can to keep them out of the end zone.

Q: Presumably with the question mark over DeOssie, youíre going to have to do something with (Colin) Holba on the practice squad?
A: More than likely. If we have to, that will probably be the direction that we go.

Q: What have you seen from him in the last couple of weeks for another guy whoís kind of unfamiliar with the kicking operation?
A: Yeah, weíve liked what heís done in practice to this pointó short and long snaps. If weíre forced to make that move, weíre confident that heíll do a good job.

Q: What does this do for Aldrick (Rosas)? Different snapper, different process.
A: Well, I think snap, hold, kick is a process where you have to build trust. The last couple of days with Zak not being here, theyíve had an opportunity to practice. Thatís the reality of a player out, new player in. You have to get up to speed quickly.

Q: Why wasnít Zak here though? You usually have guys who arenít practicing but have relatively minor injuries at practice.
A: Yeah, well, heís getting evaluated. Heís doing stuff to make sureÖ Heís going through an evaluation process. Thatís why he wasnít here. That is not accurate. There are times when injured players are not out here.

Q: What toll has seven straight losses taken?
A: We just need to keep fighting through it. I love the way our guys train. I love the way they work. There are many things that happen in the ball game that is really good football. Then there are things that have been happening to usÖ For a team like ours, we have things happen, big plays, turnovers, that have affected us in a lot of close games. I appreciate the fact that these guys are tough and resilient and keep playing. The games have been close, and so we just need to find a way to get over the top. That will change the way we feel about ourselves, itíll change the way the fans feel, and itíll change the way everything feels when you finally get over the top. At one point, I used to think that saying your team was young was an excuse. Itís a descriptive term for this team, and itís important that they figure it out quickly. The good news is even though it hasnít been quantified with wins, and I get that, thatís the reality of this business, that changes the opinion of everybody when you win. Even though that has not happened, Iíve seen the improvements behind the scenes that I think are necessary as we reset this thing and move forward.

Q: Do you understand where the Giants fans would probably say that he or she wants to see the improvements in front of the scenes? They want to see that improvement.
A: Yeah, I know. I just acknowledged the fact that you canít do that until we do it. I get that. The good news is that when we start winning and start winning consistently, then people can change their opinions of whatís going on. Thatís that.

Q: Youíve made a point of saying whenever you get an opportunity, you want to be outside. With inclement weather also coming on Sunday, why did you make the decision to be in here today?
A: The reason for it is I wanted it to be crisp. So, we made a decision. We considered going outside, but we were a little concerned about the footing, too. Sometimes, thatís one of the factors that will drive us in here.

Q: Was the music back today?
A: Just for stretch. The good news, and again, I said this I think internally. The good news, and itís an unintended consequence of that day when the music didnít work, is Iím able, and all the coaches are moreÖ The coaching can become immediate when there isnít all that noise and racket. When weíre on the road on offense, we certainly will turn the music up during team periods. But we can coach them and they can get the coaching points immediately not having to work over the noise.
Hey Pat, I Hope Really Soon We'll Be Saying  
Trainmaster : 11/29/2019 5:29 pm : link


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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2019 5:49 pm : link
"The good news is even though it hasnít been quantified with wins, and I get that, thatís the reality of this business, that changes the opinion of everybody when you win. Even though that has not happened, Iíve seen the improvements behind the scenes that I think are necessary as we reset this thing and move forward."

(Rolling my eyes.)

Hopefully Mara sees behind this BS.
If he doesn't know about DeOssie  
Jerry K : 11/29/2019 6:04 pm : link
then who does? This staff is sounding more and more like a bunch of imbeciles.
He's gone  
HomerJones45 : 11/29/2019 6:51 pm : link
first, the owners allowed their house organs to openly criticize him. Now, the FO isn't telling him whether DeOssie is on IR or not.

buh bye Pat
Wow, I can't stand this guy  
jvm52106 : 11/29/2019 7:17 pm : link
and for some perspective to his "good stuff behind the scenes"

Overal1 Giants coaching record is 7 and 20

Giants coaching record through games 1-11 (2018 and 2019) 5 and 17.

Overall Home record 3-10 with 3 home games left this year

Losses this year to

AZ- 3-7-1
Det- 3-8-1
NYJ- 4-7 (same team that lost to the Dolphins)
Chi- 6-6 (who couldn't put up points or drives until they played us)
Dall- 6-6 with two of those wins being against us.

Shurmur and his mantra of the everyone is trying hard and we are young and doing good things in practice is exactly what is wrong with this team. This isn't college. You are building these guys up and hoping they grow over the next few years. This is big time get paid $$$$ to produce wins and do it quickly. Look at Brian Flores in Miami. That team is a lot easier to root for than the Giants because their record actually shows they are working hard. Management has done everything BUT come right out and say we are tanking this year for some high draft picks and a Franchise QB! They still equal us in wins.

Shurmur and his ever constant look at the intangibles defense for his teams record and his coaching is done. The Maras have to see he is nothing more than a Coordinator and counselor. He is not a Firery leader or brilliant tactician. He doesn't anticipate well or teach well. There is nothing about him that screams leader or winners.

We have to move on from him and it has to be as soon as this lost season ends.
the punt last week tells you  
japanhead : 11/29/2019 7:24 pm : link
all you need to know about shurmur. it really embodied his head coaching acumen in a nutshell
RE: If he doesn't know about DeOssie  
mattlawson : 11/29/2019 8:48 pm : link
In comment 14695522 Jerry K said:
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then who does? This staff is sounding more and more like a bunch of imbeciles.



Imagine Tom coughlin trying to bullshit his way through that answer. It says all you need to know about how detail oriented this guy is and how in capable he isnít being a head coach
I know sometimes too much is made from these transcripts  
Jimmy Googs : 11/29/2019 9:44 pm : link
but Shurmur simply responds like a guy on the outside looking in.

And the music thing is like a media-joke at him at this point and he still isn't even getting it...

i find reading the transcript less disturbing than watching him in  
plato : 11/29/2019 10:07 pm : link
front of the microphones. His engagement is absent. he reminds me of talking with ďschizophrenicsĒ. Those that talk are just unlikeable for unclear reasons. He obviously is ďabsentĒ when i see him. to me this picture is disturbing. he is not there as a ďpersonĒ His words are whatever they are but he is a ďblack hole of charismaĒ. I would never hire anyone like him to virtually any position in my organization.
Sorry Pat  
Les in TO : 11/29/2019 10:24 pm : link
Packers are not starting Tim Boyle and youíre not capable of beating a team with a starting QB
RE: ...  
rocco8112 : 11/30/2019 4:40 am : link
In comment 14695518 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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"The good news is even though it hasnít been quantified with wins, and I get that, thatís the reality of this business, that changes the opinion of everybody when you win. Even though that has not happened, Iíve seen the improvements behind the scenes that I think are necessary as we reset this thing and move forward."

(Rolling my eyes.)

Hopefully Mara sees behind this BS.


This is the second time he has said the behind the scenes line and it is absurd. What does that even mean? Reminds me of last year where he never missed an opportunity to remind us all he took over a 3 - 13 team.

Prior to this quote, he also said he used to think saying you had a young team was an exuse. Used to think?

Shurmur obviously has had a successful career as a coach and comes off as a respectable guy. But, he these little quotes communicate to me he is an exuse guy, a rationalize the loss guy, someone who thinks' hey we stayed within two scores boys, get em next time. Exuse making and low expectations are anathema to winning football.

Behind the scenes? Who gives a rat's ass? Win a game. I sincerely think this team has a shot to lose out.
RE: RE: ...  
BlueVinnie : 11/30/2019 8:26 am : link
In comment 14695683 rocco8112 said:
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Quote:


"The good news is even though it hasnít been quantified with wins, and I get that, thatís the reality of this business, that changes the opinion of everybody when you win. Even though that has not happened, Iíve seen the improvements behind the scenes that I think are necessary as we reset this thing and move forward."



As Vince Lombardi once said, "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser".
It is absolutely alarming  
BigBlueShock : 11/30/2019 9:09 am : link
The entire world knows that DeOssie is going on IR. Except apparently Shurmur? And even worse, he canít even remember whether DeOssie has practiced this week? Frightening that this clown is in charge
Shurmur is such a bozo  
PatersonPlank : 11/30/2019 11:07 am : link
clueless.
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