Head Coach Pat Shurmur -- November 29, 2019
Opening Statement: The guys who didn’t practice— Zak (DeOssie) didn’t practice, Rhett Ellison is still in the protocol, Evan (Engram) practiced, Jabrill (Peppers) didn’t. Or no, excuse me, Evan didn’t practice, Jabrill didn’t practice and neither did Golden (Tate). The guys who are out, we’ve got to wait and see on Zak here, see if he’ll be able to go. But Rhett Ellison won’t go, Evan won’t go, Jabrill won’t go and Golden won’t go. I can tell you that at this point. Otherwise I’ll just take your questions.
Q: So, Zak’s not going on IR as it’s reported?
A: Zak DeOssie? I can’t say that at this point. I don’t know that. But he hasn’t been able to practice this week, so we’ll just have to see as the rest of the week unfolds.
Q: Didn’t he practice Wednesday, Pat?
A: No, he wasn’t… Or, Wednesday yeah. But he hadn’t practiced yesterday and today.
Q: He got hurt in practice Wednesday?
A: No, I think in the Jets game he got banged up a little bit. He was just fighting through it being a tough guy. He was just unable to go Thursday and Friday.
Q: Do you think that had something to do with his bad snaps the last couple of weeks?
A: I don’t know that. Listen, Zak’s been a guy around here who has played at a high level. He’s a big-time Giant, and I’m sure he’s played through soreness in his career. This is just something that’s kind of revealed itself.
Q: (Golden) Tate is another guy who has been diagnosed with a concussion after the fact. Is that a concern at all that something’s kind of not going right with that process?
A: The process of concussions? Listen, the one thing we know about concussions is the symptoms can come up immediately and we all know, and it’s happened probably to every team, the symptoms we know can sort of show up the day after. Each situation is different, each injury is different. I don’t have any way to quantify my concerns about it happening a day later or immediately.
Q: How difficult of a test do you think this is for the four young DBs going against Rodgers and that offense? How do you think they did against Chicago?
A: I think they are getting better each week. We’re going to have… Jabrill won’t be able to go, so Julian Love, another rookie, will start in his place. We’re sort of glad he’s been able to get reps here the last few weeks. We look forward to him playing well. Listen, they’ve got to go out and battle. Aaron Rodgers has made veteran defensive backs look not so good. So, we’ve just got to go out and battle and do what we can to keep them out of the end zone.
Q: Presumably with the question mark over DeOssie, you’re going to have to do something with (Colin) Holba on the practice squad?
A: More than likely. If we have to, that will probably be the direction that we go.
Q: What have you seen from him in the last couple of weeks for another guy who’s kind of unfamiliar with the kicking operation?
A: Yeah, we’ve liked what he’s done in practice to this point— short and long snaps. If we’re forced to make that move, we’re confident that he’ll do a good job.
Q: What does this do for Aldrick (Rosas)? Different snapper, different process.
A: Well, I think snap, hold, kick is a process where you have to build trust. The last couple of days with Zak not being here, they’ve had an opportunity to practice. That’s the reality of a player out, new player in. You have to get up to speed quickly.
Q: Why wasn’t Zak here though? You usually have guys who aren’t practicing but have relatively minor injuries at practice.
A: Yeah, well, he’s getting evaluated. He’s doing stuff to make sure… He’s going through an evaluation process. That’s why he wasn’t here. That is not accurate. There are times when injured players are not out here.
Q: What toll has seven straight losses taken?
A: We just need to keep fighting through it. I love the way our guys train. I love the way they work. There are many things that happen in the ball game that is really good football. Then there are things that have been happening to us… For a team like ours, we have things happen, big plays, turnovers, that have affected us in a lot of close games. I appreciate the fact that these guys are tough and resilient and keep playing. The games have been close, and so we just need to find a way to get over the top. That will change the way we feel about ourselves, it’ll change the way the fans feel, and it’ll change the way everything feels when you finally get over the top. At one point, I used to think that saying your team was young was an excuse. It’s a descriptive term for this team, and it’s important that they figure it out quickly. The good news is even though it hasn’t been quantified with wins, and I get that, that’s the reality of this business, that changes the opinion of everybody when you win. Even though that has not happened, I’ve seen the improvements behind the scenes that I think are necessary as we reset this thing and move forward.
Q: Do you understand where the Giants fans would probably say that he or she wants to see the improvements in front of the scenes? They want to see that improvement.
A: Yeah, I know. I just acknowledged the fact that you can’t do that until we do it. I get that. The good news is that when we start winning and start winning consistently, then people can change their opinions of what’s going on. That’s that.
Q: You’ve made a point of saying whenever you get an opportunity, you want to be outside. With inclement weather also coming on Sunday, why did you make the decision to be in here today?
A: The reason for it is I wanted it to be crisp. So, we made a decision. We considered going outside, but we were a little concerned about the footing, too. Sometimes, that’s one of the factors that will drive us in here.
Q: Was the music back today?
A: Just for stretch. The good news, and again, I said this I think internally. The good news, and it’s an unintended consequence of that day when the music didn’t work, is I’m able, and all the coaches are more… The coaching can become immediate when there isn’t all that noise and racket. When we’re on the road on offense, we certainly will turn the music up during team periods. But we can coach them and they can get the coaching points immediately not having to work over the noise.
(Rolling my eyes.)
Hopefully Mara sees behind this BS.
buh bye Pat
Overal1 Giants coaching record is 7 and 20
Giants coaching record through games 1-11 (2018 and 2019) 5 and 17.
Overall Home record 3-10 with 3 home games left this year
Losses this year to
AZ- 3-7-1
Det- 3-8-1
NYJ- 4-7 (same team that lost to the Dolphins)
Chi- 6-6 (who couldn't put up points or drives until they played us)
Dall- 6-6 with two of those wins being against us.
Shurmur and his mantra of the everyone is trying hard and we are young and doing good things in practice is exactly what is wrong with this team. This isn't college. You are building these guys up and hoping they grow over the next few years. This is big time get paid $$$$ to produce wins and do it quickly. Look at Brian Flores in Miami. That team is a lot easier to root for than the Giants because their record actually shows they are working hard. Management has done everything BUT come right out and say we are tanking this year for some high draft picks and a Franchise QB! They still equal us in wins.
Shurmur and his ever constant look at the intangibles defense for his teams record and his coaching is done. The Maras have to see he is nothing more than a Coordinator and counselor. He is not a Firery leader or brilliant tactician. He doesn't anticipate well or teach well. There is nothing about him that screams leader or winners.
We have to move on from him and it has to be as soon as this lost season ends.
Imagine Tom coughlin trying to bullshit his way through that answer. It says all you need to know about how detail oriented this guy is and how in capable he isn’t being a head coach
And the music thing is like a media-joke at him at this point and he still isn't even getting it...
(Rolling my eyes.)
Hopefully Mara sees behind this BS.
This is the second time he has said the behind the scenes line and it is absurd. What does that even mean? Reminds me of last year where he never missed an opportunity to remind us all he took over a 3 - 13 team.
Prior to this quote, he also said he used to think saying you had a young team was an exuse. Used to think?
Shurmur obviously has had a successful career as a coach and comes off as a respectable guy. But, he these little quotes communicate to me he is an exuse guy, a rationalize the loss guy, someone who thinks' hey we stayed within two scores boys, get em next time. Exuse making and low expectations are anathema to winning football.
Behind the scenes? Who gives a rat's ass? Win a game. I sincerely think this team has a shot to lose out.
Quote:
"The good news is even though it hasn’t been quantified with wins, and I get that, that’s the reality of this business, that changes the opinion of everybody when you win. Even though that has not happened, I’ve seen the improvements behind the scenes that I think are necessary as we reset this thing and move forward."
As Vince Lombardi once said, "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser".