Jim Harbaugh apparently considering return to NFL: Do it NYG

written over a month ago, and was completely debunked. There is no truth to it. Harbaugh even sent a letter to all of the parents on his team, and future commits that he has absolutely no intention of leaving Michigan.

Get his ass in here

In comment 14695591 nzyme said:

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The next will be no different. Harbaugh is NOT a "Yes" man. If he was hired it would be a dramatic shift in strategy for this organization.

Dramatic shift? Perkins? Parcells? Reeves? Fassel? Coughlin? McAdoo benching Eli? All "Yes" men?

Rule of Z is strong on this thread.

In comment 14695600 barens said:

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written over a month ago, and was completely debunked. There is no truth to it. Harbaugh even sent a letter to all of the parents on his team, and future commits that he has absolutely no intention of leaving Michigan.

All true, but let’s be honest, coaches have sworn up and down they’re not leaving college, only to change their minds all of a sudden many times before.

I’m in on Harbaugh if it became a possibility...this org needs a coach who won’t accept mediocrity.

But I also agree with those saying he’s likely too brash and will want too much control to suit the Maras

He went back to the pros he would most likely prefer taking over the Giants then the cowboys. Knowing the stakes he would see the better opportunity of turning this team around to being respected then trying to meet the expectations in Dallas who see super bowl or bust at this point

Harbaugh is not going to the NFL and does not even have an agent. see link. this was put to bed over a month ago. Troll news trying to hurt Michigan's recruit.
Link - ( New Window )

but enough with the “he doesn’t have an agent” garbage. If he wants to come back he’d, uhhh, hire one? Unless agents are extinct and hard to find or something.

In comment 14695611 jtfuoco said:

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He went back to the pros he would most likely prefer taking over the Giants then the cowboys. Knowing the stakes he would see the better opportunity of turning this team around to being respected then trying to meet the expectations in Dallas who see super bowl or bust at this point

I think he would choose the situation he think is more likely to win a Super Bowl. He will burn out again in the pros IMO but his team will probably have a good 5 years before that happens.

Don’t give him GM authority unless he starts winning and keeps continuity. He flamed our pretty quick in SF.

no one!!!!......with Dave the fat man G. and patty the loser Shurmur.....c'mon aboard jimmy.....and bring along your excellent team with eyes and hearts for talent and their winning ways.....your brother, has a fantastic shot, at the Lombardi this season!!!!!! lets get you getting one for big blue!!!!!!!

In comment 14695613 Ed in Ann Arbor said:

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Harbaugh is not going to the NFL and does not even have an agent. see link. this was put to bed over a month ago. Troll news trying to hurt Michigan's recruit. Link - ( New Window )

Mutliple sources apparently ran with this story. Where there's smoke...

In comment 14695571 Giantz_comeback said:

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In comment 14695567 fanofthejets said: Quote: An asshole through and through but a football maniac and he wins. He's not perfect. He'll make enemies within the org. But he'll make the Giants respectable again overnight and he'll probably have them .500 next year easy. That's unfortunately why I dont think they hire him.

At this point though I think Mara is so fed up that he'd probably be the most open he's every been to rocking the boat a bit and departing from the old Giants way

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In comment 14695635 fanofthejets said:

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In comment 14695571 Giantz_comeback said: Quote: In comment 14695567 fanofthejets said: Quote: An asshole through and through but a football maniac and he wins. He's not perfect. He'll make enemies within the org. But he'll make the Giants respectable again overnight and he'll probably have them .500 next year easy. That's unfortunately why I dont think they hire him. At this point though I think Mara is so fed up that he'd probably be the most open he's every been to rocking the boat a bit and departing from the old Giants way

I kinda agree with this

Mara is taking a lot of heat right now and a great way to redirect that fire would be to hire someone whose bigger than Gettleman.

That would be Harbaugh. So when Gettleman needs to get canned Mara doesn’t have to go up to the podium and say “I made this mistake”. Instead it will be framed as Harbaugh determined Gettleman sucked.

Now u can bring in someone Harbaugh gets along with

And Mara gets to WASH his hands AGAIN because if Harbaugh fails, well, it was all Harbaughs boat.

Firing shurmur right now makes a lot of sense for Mara. Puts pressure on gettletrash and fans will love the move if Mara goes in and says

We’re going to get rhule, Riley, Harbaugh, or mcdaniels, or that KC offensive coach

In comment 14695574 robbieballs2003 said:

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But what is with all the "do whatever it takes" and give him full control" bullshit? Has Harbaugh earned the right to have full control? No. Look at all the other teams that are successful right now that posters keep saying we should be like in SF and Baltimore. Do they give power to one person? Of course not so what is with all the bullshit comments?

Amen — and when teams do give full control to the flavor of the month coach it’s typically an epic failure.

gets waxed by Ohio St again are you still going to be waving the pom poms?

Greg Roman

In comment 14695659 WillVAB said:

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In comment 14695574 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: But what is with all the "do whatever it takes" and give him full control" bullshit? Has Harbaugh earned the right to have full control? No. Look at all the other teams that are successful right now that posters keep saying we should be like in SF and Baltimore. Do they give power to one person? Of course not so what is with all the bullshit comments? Amen — and when teams do give full control to the flavor of the month coach it’s typically an epic failure.

44-19 and a near Super Bowl win with Colin Kap as your QB? Id say thats pretty good.

How can he win in the pros? Pass

Fat thumbs.

Give me David Shaw

doesn't eat white meat. Do we really want a coach that doesn't eat turkey on Thanksgiving? I don't think we do. We can do better than this.

Who cares if he is an a$$hole... He's a proven winner

In comment 14695664 Carl in CT said:

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How can he win in the pros? Pass

You must have a different definition of "can't win" than the rest of us do.

As stated in the article Harbaugh's record and winning percentage...

NFL: 44-19 (70.0%)
Mich: 43-16 (72.9%)

Combined: 87-35 (71.3%)

He’s foot a history of building successful programs.

105-43 (.709) (college)
49–22–1 (.688) (NFL)

University of San Diego
Went 29-6 over three seasons and won two conference championships

Stanford University
Took over a team that was 16-40 over the prior 5 seasons... In his third season, they made their first bowl appearance in 8 years and in his fourth season, they went 12-1 and crushed V-Tech in the Orange Bowl finishing the season #4 in the Coaches and AP polls.

San Francisco 49ers
Took over a 6 win SF 49ers team who hadn't seen a winning season in nearly a decade... He immediately turned them into an NFL powerhouse... 44-19 over 4 season, won 2 division titles, appeared in 3 consecutive NFC Championships (winning 1) and fell just a few points short of hoisting the Lombardi Trophy... After he left for Michigan, they won just 17 games in the next four seasons.

Michigan Wolverines
People seem to forget the state of the Michigan program under Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke. In eight seasons, they went 46-42 and missed 3 bowl appearances (never missed a bowl in the + 3 decades prior). Under Harbaugh, they've been 45-16 over five seasons. Yes, he hasn't gotten past Ohio State and they are likely to run into a buzz saw again today against the #1 ranked team in the country, but Ohio State has been one of the most dominant teams in the country and didn't lose many game under Urban Meyer

You can instantly tell who the Michigan homers are.

“Grrrrr, Harbaugh isn’t going anywhere! This has been debunked! He promised! He lives next door to his parents, man!”

Later today, after Ohio State curb stomps Michigan, again, all these supposed Harbaugh/Michigan cult members will be begging him to leave

but it will never happen... ever.

John Mara only hires boy scouts. The coach has to FIT the image first, and the ability to coach second.

A bit like how this guy got his job...

but I highly doubt it would happen as long as Gettleman is the GM. I can't see someone who's has some previous NFL success willing to work with DG.

In comment 14695706 EricJ said:

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but it will never happen... ever. John Mara only hires boy scouts. The coach has to FIT the image first, and the ability to coach second. A bit like how this guy got his job...

Nice! Nothing like a good Johnny Bravo reference to start the day.

In comment 14695664 Carl in CT said:

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How can he win in the pros? Pass

Except he has, and repeatedly. All he’s ever done is win at every stop.

The coat fits you.

Very funny.

I hate the guy and think very little of him as a person. He won’t be here long and he’ll burn a lot of bridges on his way out.

With that being said, he’d get us winning again and as bad as its been for the past 8 or so years, I’d deal with him just to see a season over .500 again.

and Garrett sucks.

in San Fran he clashed with big time with GM Trent Baalke. I recall he wanted much more control of football operations. York didn’t budge and Harbaugh got out...

So assuming that’s the baseline for any return, and as much as I’d like to have him, I just don’t see a match while Gettleman is here steering the Giants Way ship.

Now, if Harbaugh softened his position on control I think Dallas would be a much better fit. The Jones’s have done a great job the last five years in the draft, they have a ton of pieces in place, and there is no state income tax in TX. So the comp could be closer to what Harbaugh is getting at U of M.

However, I don’t think he’s leaving Ann Arbor. I sense he really wants to get big things done there.

that he's leaving Michigan (FWTW).

Have to consider him but like others have said - biggest issue is the fit between he and front office. Could they reconcile differences? - I'm doubting it.

not leaving Michigan. There is zero traction to this.

In comment 14695663 Giantz_comeback said:

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In comment 14695659 WillVAB said: Quote: In comment 14695574 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: But what is with all the "do whatever it takes" and give him full control" bullshit? Has Harbaugh earned the right to have full control? No. Look at all the other teams that are successful right now that posters keep saying we should be like in SF and Baltimore. Do they give power to one person? Of course not so what is with all the bullshit comments? Amen — and when teams do give full control to the flavor of the month coach it’s typically an epic failure. 44-19 and a near Super Bowl win with Colin Kap as your QB? Id say thats pretty good.

Harbaugh didn’t have full control in SF.

I’d be excited to have him as the HC but what I don’t want is a Chip Kelly situation.

In comment 14695709 BlueVinnie said:

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Nice! Nothing like a good Johnny Bravo reference to start the day.

"there's a lot of bread in those threads baby..."

No brainer we should hire him.

And has already been debunked by multiple people, including Harbaugh himself. He put out a statement saying it’s false and that he doesn’t have any representatives, he his own agent.

I’m a Michigan alumni and follow the team closely, he is not leaving. Go Blue!

and in the end all that means nothing. He could wake up one day for any reason and change his mind. There is nothing preventing him from doing so other than the desire to go back to the NFL. Writing letters, not having an agent, etc. are just reasons he likely won’t go back but they don’t prevent him from doing so.

What was the reason for the 49er’s collapse at the end of his reign? Injuries or lost a lot of their key talent in FA? I really don’t recall or followed.

In comment 14695837 darren in pdx said:

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What was the reason for the 49er’s collapse at the end of his reign? Injuries or lost a lot of their key talent in FA? I really don’t recall or followed.

There was a power struggle between him the GM at the time.

The owner sided with the GM and let Harbaugh leave. Two seasons later, the GM, who went and hired Jim Tomsula (fired after one season) and then Chip Kelly (fired after one season), was fired.

and was talked ad nasuem already.

In comment 14695837 darren in pdx said:

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What was the reason for the 49er’s collapse at the end of his reign? Injuries or lost a lot of their key talent in FA? I really don’t recall or followed.

They got to the SB in 2012, made it to the NFCC game in 2013, and were 7-4 heading into the last 5 games of 2014. But then they lost 4 games in a row, won the last game, and finished 8-8. And then that off-season the implosion occurred with Harbaugh-Baalke-York. York sided with Baalke and, well, the rest is history...

To me, the collapse was a combination of Kap's play falling off, the fractured culture when Kap went martyr, and some poor drafting/roster management.

You pretty much nailed it

He had had success with 2 major college program that send players to the NFL and he took the Niners to the super bowl.

That’s a shit ton more than Shurmur has ever done

he could be had?

And injuries. That offseason was later ranked as the single worst offseason in NFL history.
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