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Could Jim Harbaugh be had?

MattyKid : 11/30/2019 4:05 pm
After today's loss and would we want him? Or would Mara and Co. pay him what he wants? Thoughts?
I would  
Nine-Tails : 11/30/2019 4:09 pm : link
Want him. The Maras, lol
mara is, or was, a notorious cheapskate  
japanhead : 11/30/2019 4:13 pm : link
when it comes to coaching staff. he also still has to pay shurmur three more years of salary whether he's fired or not. unless shurmur resigns, which it looks like he already has mentally.
RE: mara is, or was, a notorious cheapskate  
an_idol_mind : 11/30/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14696000 japanhead said:
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when it comes to coaching staff. he also still has to pay shurmur three more years of salary whether he's fired or not. unless shurmur resigns, which it looks like he already has mentally.


Please name a time in recent history when they Giants lost out on a coach because of salary. I don't think one exists.
RE: RE: mara is, or was, a notorious cheapskate  
81_Great_Dane : 11/30/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14696002 an_idol_mind said:
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In comment 14696000 japanhead said:


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when it comes to coaching staff. he also still has to pay shurmur three more years of salary whether he's fired or not. unless shurmur resigns, which it looks like he already has mentally.



Please name a time in recent history when they Giants lost out on a coach because of salary. I don't think one exists.
Yeah, I used to think the Maras were cheap. Came to realize they (Wellington & John) are ineffective as football guys, but they're not cheap.

I also think they've been kind of lax about maximizing revenue. They have traditionally thought about the league more than the team. That's kind of noble of them, but it hasn't helped them compete with Dallas, to name one example.

"Would we want him"  
widmerseyebrow : 11/30/2019 4:21 pm : link
I have no idea if Harbaugh would be better in his second stint in the NFL, but it won't have anything to do with some mostly meaningless college football game. I guess you think twice if you're a Giants fan who also happens to root for Michigan or Ohio State? But personal biases aside, who cares?
Probably not  
Oscar : 11/30/2019 4:25 pm : link
He’ll stay until he accomplishes something there.

Matt Rhule is the guy I would like to pry from college ball.
there's a 61 post thread about this on page 1 of the forum  
Torrag : 11/30/2019 4:25 pm : link
just sayin
RE: RE: mara is, or was, a notorious cheapskate  
japanhead : 11/30/2019 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14696002 an_idol_mind said:
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In comment 14696000 japanhead said:


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when it comes to coaching staff. he also still has to pay shurmur three more years of salary whether he's fired or not. unless shurmur resigns, which it looks like he already has mentally.



Please name a time in recent history when they Giants lost out on a coach because of salary. I don't think one exists.


that might be more in regard to assistants/coordinators than head coaches. and it might no longer hold. i know they ponied up to keep spags after the 2007 season when he was flirting with the redskins.

that said i can't see the giants ever doing something like the raiders did to get gruden.
Jim harbaugh? Lol  
micky : 11/30/2019 4:54 pm : link
And the comedy continues..i love this lmfao 🤣😂

[Clown music playing]

And the Giants will be Giants
Answer this question for me  
Carl in CT : 11/30/2019 4:56 pm : link
Why?
How much control does he want?  
JohnB : 11/30/2019 5:01 pm : link
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RE: RE: mara is, or was, a notorious cheapskate  
joeinpa : 11/30/2019 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14696002 an_idol_mind said:
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In comment 14696000 japanhead said:


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when it comes to coaching staff. he also still has to pay shurmur three more years of salary whether he's fired or not. unless shurmur resigns, which it looks like he already has mentally.



Please name a time in recent history when they Giants lost out on a coach because of salary. I don't think one exists.


This narrative has been around about the Maras since the 60’s. Don’t confuse the arising facts, that doesn’t play well here
RE: Answer this question for me  
djm : 11/30/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14696024 Carl in CT said:
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Why?


Did he not do a very good job with the Niners?
ANOTHER Harbaugh thread?  
Mendenhall64 : 11/30/2019 5:37 pm : link
Yippee!
Seems to be a better NFL coach  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 11/30/2019 7:32 pm : link
than college. I think his congenital douchiness rubs parents the wrong way in the living room.
I wish  
Jay on the Island : 11/30/2019 7:49 pm : link
The Harbaugh's are great coaches and teachers. Look at the fantastic job John Harbaugh has done in Baltimore. Every year they develop these mid to late round picks or UDFA's into excellent starters. They lose key pieces in free agency often but they are instantly replaced through excellent drafting.

Both coaches are excellent at building their schemes around their players strengths. I think Jim Harbaugh is an asshole but I would love to have him as the next HC of the Giants. He would turn things around in no time.
He's been had  
Bill in UT : 11/30/2019 8:36 pm : link
by OSU since he went to Michigan
Why is Harbaugh better than Meyer  
pmmanning : 11/30/2019 8:59 pm : link
Actually dreamt about this Thanksgiving (hammered and stuffed)
I don't like either but people have been talking up Meyer for years
He got chased out of Ohio at because him and every other coach paid players

Totally honest question why is Harbaugh better than Meyer
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Leg of Theismann : 11/30/2019 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14696005 widmerseyebrow said:
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I have no idea if Harbaugh would be better in his second stint in the NFL, but it won't have anything to do with some mostly meaningless college football game. I guess you think twice if you're a Giants fan who also happens to root for Michigan or Ohio State? But personal biases aside, who cares?


“Better in his second stint in the NFL” ?

He took the 9ers from a 5 win team, to 13-3 in his very FIRST season, to a super bowl in his 2nd season coaching the team.

And apparently the Maras didn’t give a shit that Shurmur had an ACTUAL shitty first stint in the NFL.
RE: Why is Harbaugh better than Meyer  
Leg of Theismann : 11/30/2019 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14696135 pmmanning said:
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Actually dreamt about this Thanksgiving (hammered and stuffed)
I don't like either but people have been talking up Meyer for years
He got chased out of Ohio at because him and every other coach paid players

Totally honest question why is Harbaugh better than Meyer


Did anyone say Harbaugh is better than Meyer? I mean if they did I guess the one point emphasis would be that Harbaugh has an actual track record as a successful NFL head coach. Meyer as an NFL HC is still a question mark.

But I don’t think this thread is about one being better than the other, I think there’s question as to whether we could land either much less have our choice of both. I would prefer either one over Shurmur though.
Zero chance  
Thankyoueli : 11/30/2019 10:26 pm : link
that Mara hires someone that animated to be head coach.

Unfortunately.

I'd be very very happy with him, Rivera, or Tomlin. Anybody else realistically availible would range from meh to nightmare.
Zero chance  
Thankyoueli : 11/30/2019 10:27 pm : link
that Mara hires someone that animated to be head coach.

Unfortunately.

I'd be very very happy with him, Rivera, or Tomlin. Anybody else realistically availible would range from meh to nightmare.
If we hire him  
Jay in Toronto : 11/30/2019 10:43 pm : link
We wouid be had
Apparently he is  
Darth Paul : 11/30/2019 11:10 pm : link
considering a return to the NFL?
Only way he’d come here..  
Sean : 11/30/2019 11:45 pm : link
is if Gettleman was fired and he was given full control over personnel.
RE: Zero chance  
an_idol_mind : 12/1/2019 8:44 am : link
In comment 14696171 Thankyoueli said:
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that Mara hires someone that animated to be head coach.


Coughlin was pretty damned animated...
RE: He's been had  
micky : 12/1/2019 8:53 am : link
In comment 14696129 Bill in UT said:
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by OSU since he went to Michigan


This

It boggles the mind the amount outcry to have this guy as hc. I guess everyone here does love futility. Then i hope so.
micky-  
Sean : 12/1/2019 8:54 am : link
You’d rather stay the course?
RE: Why is Harbaugh better than Meyer  
BlueVinnie : 12/1/2019 9:10 am : link
In comment 14696135 pmmanning said:
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Actually dreamt about this Thanksgiving (hammered and stuffed)
I don't like either but people have been talking up Meyer for years
He got chased out of Ohio at because him and every other coach paid players

Totally honest question why is Harbaugh better than Meyer


Harbaugh has won in the NFL. He did a great job improving Stanford and while he hasn't beaten Oho St., Michigan is much better than they were under the previous coach.

Meyer did a great job at Florida and won big at Ohio St. However, is winning big at Ohio State that much of a reflection on how good the coach actually is?
RE: micky-  
micky : 12/1/2019 9:55 am : link
In comment 14696292 Sean said:
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You’d rather stay the course?


Not this slippery slope..no. But, not with Jim Harbaugh. If anyone, i'd be on the side of Rhule, though, a little skeptic of him
Mara will never hire  
Dave on the UWS : 12/1/2019 11:08 am : link
a dick. And he’s a big one.
I don't know if I'd call them cheap overall  
jcn56 : 12/1/2019 11:15 am : link
but it was largely rumored that Coughlin lost out on Gregg Williams because the Giants balked on his salary request, which would have made him the highest paid DC in the league at the time. They ended up losing him to Washington.
To much spice  
Simms : 12/1/2019 12:46 pm : link
Mara Tech is more milk toast.
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