I don’t see how Shurmur and Gettleman survive this. Not only are the Giants bad in all three phases, their rookie class has regressed, she there is no improvement anyway on the team.
As much as Mara hates it, he will be forced to clean house.
We need to scout and consider the QBs. Two kids who look like franchise QBs up top.
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
We need to scout and consider the QBs. Two kids who look like franchise QBs up top.
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
Who is " we " ? you want gettleman making that decision ?
We only have about 7 draft choices. I don’t think we can pick up a stud OL, LB, EDGE, Safety, WR, and QB. And don’t think we will pick up anybody good in FA. How often does that happen for us?
be surprised if we win another game this year. Miami and Washington are better than us right now. That would mean we'd finish the season with a 12 game losing streak. I assume that would be a franchise record.
"He's a rookie" isn't a valid excuse. Jones has a pathetic YPA and the Giants have struggled to score points with him as the quarterback.
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
You mean the same way we did when we had a 2 time super bowl MVP veteran QB? interesting..
being a rookie is ABSOLUTELY an excuse. dude is in his 12th start....it takes time...you just hate everything the giants do. i swear you should be a jets or skins fan bro
be surprised if we win another game this year. Miami and Washington are better than us right now. That would mean we'd finish the season with a 12 game losing streak. I assume that would be a franchise record.
I think 10 straight was the record. I think we’re going have the dubious distinction today?!
"He's a rookie" isn't a valid excuse. Jones has a pathetic YPA and the Giants have struggled to score points with him as the quarterback.
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
What does this mean? Which rookie QB's came in and lit the league on fire? Mayfield was very good last year and regressed this year. Who else? Please don't use Mahomes as an example.
We need to scout and consider the QBs. Two kids who look like franchise QBs up top.
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
We need to scout and consider the QBs. Two kids who look like franchise QBs up top.
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
Jones is the least of our problems.
If the giants draft another qb then we’re even more of a joke
yeah its funny how some people say we have the worst coach in football and then blame the GM for the players we have.
At some point we need to make up our minds. this is either Shurmur's fault or Gettleman's.
If Shurmur cannot coach then we dont really know whether the problem is with the players.
Eric, yeah, it's possible it's both The coach and GM, but like you said of the coach is terrible, how much is that impacting the gm's players? That's not an excuse, but a reasonable possibility
this team is week after week. Just basic fundamentals of football mistakes. If ownership doesn't see how bad every single player has regressed across the board and fire the Coach then we are in for many more years of this shit. We are the worst team in the NFL and the future isnt looking to bright right now.
this team is week after week. Just basic fundamentals of football mistakes. If ownership doesn't see how bad every single player has regressed across the board and fire the Coach then we are in for many more years of this shit. We are the worst team in the NFL and the future isnt looking to bright right now.
Even Barkley, the "crown jewel" of the Gettleman era, is JAG at best after this coaching staff has coached him up. He doesn't pass the eye test anymore for being anything special.
As much as Mara hates it, he will be forced to clean house.
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
agree with this..
@DDuggan21
Bold strategy for Shurmur to keep all of the development behind the scenes as his record drops to 7-21 in two seasons with the Giants. #longgame
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
Who is " we " ? you want gettleman making that decision ?
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
We’re the only team that doesn’t give a shit.
Nope it's just that you were one of the dimmest of the bulbs who said the QB was the culprit and not the OL and defense...
But now suddenly it's on the OL and defense...
Go figure...!!
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
You mean the same way we did when we had a 2 time super bowl MVP veteran QB? interesting..
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
And that's his fault? That his O-Line can't block their way out of a wet paper bag and not give him enough time to throw?
DJ is the least of our concerns
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
Perhaps coaching impacts players a lot.
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you must really know jack shit about football.
Nope it's just that you were one of the dimmest of the bulbs who said the QB was the culprit and not the OL and defense...
But now suddenly it's on the OL and defense...
Go figure...!!
I've stood by the fact that Eli didn't play up to his cap number. Daniel Jones does. Is it that hard to comprehend? You bright. You should get it.
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"He's a rookie" isn't a valid excuse. Jones has a pathetic YPA and the Giants have struggled to score points with him as the quarterback.
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
You mean the same way we did when we had a 2 time super bowl MVP veteran QB? interesting..
being a rookie is ABSOLUTELY an excuse. dude is in his 12th start....it takes time...you just hate everything the giants do. i swear you should be a jets or skins fan bro
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"He's a rookie" isn't a valid excuse. Jones has a pathetic YPA and the Giants have struggled to score points with him as the quarterback.
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
You mean the same way we did when we had a 2 time super bowl MVP veteran QB? interesting..
I agree. I don’t think it’s the QB so much (whichever QB you want to talk about) as it is...everything.
Did you ever think the Giants had a chance to win the game?
I think 10 straight was the record. I think we’re going have the dubious distinction today?!
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"He's a rookie" isn't a valid excuse. Jones has a pathetic YPA and the Giants have struggled to score points with him as the quarterback.
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
You mean the same way we did when we had a 2 time super bowl MVP veteran QB? interesting..
His boy Lamar averaged under 170 yards passing last year and didn't negate that one bit.
Difference is Jones doesn't have Harbaugh and Roman as his coaches.
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Where I feel like the game was closer than the final score.
Did you ever think the Giants had a chance to win the game?
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
What does this mean? Which rookie QB's came in and lit the league on fire? Mayfield was very good last year and regressed this year. Who else? Please don't use Mahomes as an example.
Perhaps coaching impacts players a lot.
yeah its funny how some people say we have the worst coach in football and then blame the GM for the players we have.
At some point we need to make up our minds. this is either Shurmur's fault or Gettleman's.
If Shurmur cannot coach then we dont really know whether the problem is with the players.
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Where I feel like the game was closer than the final score.
Did you ever think the Giants had a chance to win the game?
there was a point where I felt the outcome wasn’t set I stone.
Ball should’ve been caught
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
We blew that pick but we'll poised to get a do-over with the #2 overall.
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We need to scout and consider the QBs. Two kids who look like franchise QBs up top.
I think we’ll pass and take Young, but last few games will be important for evaluating Jones. I think Jones is likely our long term QB, but we need to do our homework.
Jones is the least of our problems.
If the giants draft another qb then we’re even more of a joke
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
Very nice observation. I’m satisfied with Jones but still question if he’s a product of the “safe” scheme that aims to produce 60%+ completion.
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Perhaps coaching impacts players a lot.
yeah its funny how some people say we have the worst coach in football and then blame the GM for the players we have.
At some point we need to make up our minds. this is either Shurmur's fault or Gettleman's.
If Shurmur cannot coach then we dont really know whether the problem is with the players.
Eric, yeah, it's possible it's both The coach and GM, but like you said of the coach is terrible, how much is that impacting the gm's players? That's not an excuse, but a reasonable possibility
Even Barkley, the "crown jewel" of the Gettleman era, is JAG at best after this coaching staff has coached him up. He doesn't pass the eye test anymore for being anything special.
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"He's a rookie" isn't a valid excuse. Jones has a pathetic YPA and the Giants have struggled to score points with him as the quarterback.
It matters when you're going to have the second pick in the draft.
Very nice observation. I’m satisfied with Jones but still question if he’s a product of the “safe” scheme that aims to produce 60%+ completion.
Lamar Jackson just won throwing 4 YPA and having 105 pass yards.
Coaching matters.