Could be a great day for Giants Draft Position

Another loss is another strike against Shurmur and this fucking horrendous coaching staff

The Dolphins and Redskins winning would be pretty huge. If the Steelers can beat the Browns, even though it has nothing to do with draft position and I just want to see the Browns lose, that would be the icing on the cake.

For murmur to show up for work tomorrow, John..

going to be the next LT and bring the playoffs back? No!

If we can manage to lose out and they win another, then we will have the #1 pick.

are getting the number 1 overall pick unless Sherm is fired. Lets all hope he hangs on for all 16.

Looking good

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and still look a billion times better then us.

In comment 14697596 broadbandz said:

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are getting the number 1 overall pick unless Sherm is fired. Lets all hope he hangs on for all 16.

You guys are taking schadenfreude to a whole new level

Miami up by two possessions

In comment 14697614 KevinBBWC said:

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and still look a billion times better then us.

This^^^^

Yes.. I cannot see us beating Miami

the number 1 pick . Im starting to not even care anymore about draft position because it just feels so hopeless

He asked " is he lucky? " I doubt he would hire Murmur

Bengals
Dolphins
Redskins

All winning. If this holds up, I guess we have a solid lock on the second pick.

In comment 14697614 KevinBBWC said:

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and still look a billion times better then us.

They're also coached a billion times better than us. Flores was schooled by the best coach in the game and it shows.

So they have a decent shot to win another game or two. Dalton is motivated to audition for his next team.

Dolphins have also been somewhat competitive as of late.

Giants cream is rising to the top! Or is it shit sinking to the bottom of the ocean?

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Giants still have a shot at #1.

play eachother in a couple weeks so either Cincy gets their 2nd win or Miami further distances themselves from the race for Chase.

Cincinnati has to draft a QB with the 1st pick if they get it

In comment 14697644 5BowlsSoon said:

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Bengals Dolphins Redskins All winning. If this holds up, I guess we have a solid lock on the second pick.

Among the bottom feeders of the league, only the Giants lost today.

At two.

we gained a game on Cincy (and we'll have a tiebreaker against them) and we gained a game on both Miami and washington essentially putting us 1.5 games ahead of both of them (we'll win tiebreakers against both of them) Chase Young is higher regarded out of OSU than the Bosa brothers and is looking like a real possibility now.

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In comment 14698069 Carl in CT said:

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At two.

The Redskins, Dolphins, and Bengals all won (as well NYG losing). You know the odds of that all happening coming into today based on how bad those teams have all been? And it's incredibly important we 1) stay ahead of the Skins simply because they are our division rivals, and 2) stay in the top 2 given the fact that this draft is basically about two players now: Joe Burrow and Chase Young. We're not taking Burrow but could absolutely get a haul for him in a trade for our pick, or we take Young who is clearly the best player in the draft at a premium position where we have a major hole right now.

Simply saying "our position stayed at #2" is the most negative way of looking at what happened today from a 2020 draft perspective.

It doesn’t matter. We will stay at 2.

Maybe 1. I could give two shits about draft position. I’d rather win games. I don’t want to lose out. Change the culture.

In comment 14698563 Carl in CT said:

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Maybe 1. I could give two shits about draft position. I’d rather win games. I don’t want to lose out. Change the culture.

Culture? Everyone is going to get canned and the roster will be gutted. They could go on a winning streak and almost all of the people involved will be gone by next season.

In comment 14698563 Carl in CT said:

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Maybe 1. I could give two shits about draft position. I’d rather win games. I don’t want to lose out. Change the culture.

You don't give a shit about having the #1 overall pick in the NFL draft? I mean I understand your point that you want to see the team win (and hate to see them lose) but #1 or #2 are not guaranteed if we go, say, 2-2 to end the season as opposed to 0-4 or 1-3. I see your argument, certainly, but at this point I just don't see an advantage to winning an extra game or 2 when our HC is a proven loser and is likely gone anyway (and hopefully gone). I was rooting for wins every week up until a couple weeks ago when I realized 1) I want Shurmur gone ASAP, and 2) I want one of the top 2 picks in this draft... having #2 could have very different results than having #1, and having anything below #2 could have EXTREMELY different results in the long run.

I don't see winning a game or 2 somehow "changing the culture"... just don't see it. If anything I'm afraid they win a couple games and bring Shurmur back because of that and then Mara possibly delays doing the things that will ACTUALLY change the culture (such as firing Shurmur).