Hadn’t missed a Giants game in atleast 3 years. Saw the TD to tie up the game 7-7 and stopped watching after that. Call it intuition. But after finishing with a client I checked the score and we were being trounced handedly. As I expected we would be.
Today was a good day for the FUTURE of the New York Giants.
to make up for how bad he has been in FA sn trades.
Well his 2018 draft looks terrible right now.
Barkley is good but as the 2nd pick it was the wrong pick, hernandez has regressed, carter hill and rj mcintosh im not sure they are on the team anymore, and lauletta is gone.
Dont forget the supplemental 4rd round pick in beal cant get on the field.
Dont fool yourself. Shurmur sucks, one of the worst coaches of all time but gettleman needs to go too
when I flipped it over to the Giants game, it was more of the same: Abominable defense, poor playcalling and use of personnel especially Saquon, bad officiating and the usual recipe of mental errors and bad fundamentals.
It ain't even worth it unless you want to,listen in the car/headphones and get things done.
to make up for how bad he has been in FA sn trades.
Well his 2018 draft looks terrible right now.
Barkley is good but as the 2nd pick it was the wrong pick, hernandez has regressed, carter hill and rj mcintosh im not sure they are on the team anymore, and lauletta is gone.
Dont forget the supplemental 4rd round pick in beal cant get on the field.
Dont fool yourself. Shurmur sucks, one of the worst coaches of all time but gettleman needs to go too
Barkley has regressed to the point to where I wouldn't call him good anymore.
I'm completely apathetic at this point until changes are made with the coaching staff.
The Maras aren’t gonna make the changes needed to turn this around — it’ll still be family & friends club (with an office for Chris Mara and whatever nephew needs a job). They aren’t gonna cede control to the type of ruthless football people the team needs at every level. They have little financial incentive with the $ still pouring in — and don’t hold your breath that they will be shamed into it.
Gettleman inherited an NFC East where 10 wins gets the division each s Â
to make up for how bad he has been in FA sn trades.
Well his 2018 draft looks terrible right now.
Barkley is good but as the 2nd pick it was the wrong pick, hernandez has regressed, carter hill and rj mcintosh im not sure they are on the team anymore, and lauletta is gone.
Dont forget the supplemental 4rd round pick in beal cant get on the field.
Dont fool yourself. Shurmur sucks, one of the worst coaches of all time but gettleman needs to go too
Barkley has regressed to the point to where I wouldn't call him good anymore.
Im hoping its just injury related but i agree since coming back from his ankle injury hes looked like a JAG
He’s a rookie, it’s almost a given that he’s going to turn the ball over. He’ll learn from it.
The point is that there is a lot to like about the kid, but he has a lot to improve. If we have the #1 or #2 pick, we should be doing our homework on QBs. We criticize the organization for it's dysfunction. But forcing a player on a new coaching staff at such an important position reinforces the dysfunction. If as a fan you want a new staff, but want them to be forced to work with DJ, then don't ever criticize the dysfunction.
we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
at least McAdoo had a plan that didn't work. I'm not sure we even have a game plan
Yeah, I'm at the point where I'd say this is worse than Reese/McAdoo. What we didn't see under McAdoo that we're seeing here is the team-wide regression. The roster itself is getting worse by the week. McAdoo at his worst wouldn't have turned Barkley into an average player.
For the record, drafting Barkley at #2 was a mistake, and I don't even think Reese would've done that.
we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
I agree. If we can get a 5th rounder for DJ I'd take it...
we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
Yup.
We've wasted two years with Gettleman. Acknowledge that, call it a sunk cost, and get to building a program.
we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
A new regime might like Jones, but if we clean house (this means Chris Mara, Gettleman, Abrams, the scouts, etc) and the new regime wants Burrow, you draft Burrow, trade Jones, and keep moving.
Given the way the Redskins and Dolphins are playing, Giants will not likely taste victory again this year. And if DG and PS are still around, few victories next year in this “rebuild.”
we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
I agree. If we can get a 5th rounder for DJ I'd take it...
Given the way the Redskins and Dolphins are playing, Giants will not likely taste victory again this year. And if DG and PS are still around, few victories next year in this “rebuild.”
The way this team is regressing under Shurmur? If the Shurmur/Gettleman/Chris Mara regime comes back intact this year, book it, the Giants will go 0-16.
we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
You cant ask this question if the bumbling old fool is still the GM here.
IF mara does the unthinkable and fires DG and bring in a new front office then its fair to ask this question since they didnt pick jones. Gettleman should not be allowed to pick a !B at 6 and then pick another !B at 1 the next year. That is gross incompetence
Hopefully Philly loses in Miami. It’ll make next Monday an absolute nightmare for the NYG down there.
Today was a good day for the FUTURE of the New York Giants.
Just Lose baby.
Well his 2018 draft looks terrible right now.
Barkley is good but as the 2nd pick it was the wrong pick, hernandez has regressed, carter hill and rj mcintosh im not sure they are on the team anymore, and lauletta is gone.
Dont forget the supplemental 4rd round pick in beal cant get on the field.
Dont fool yourself. Shurmur sucks, one of the worst coaches of all time but gettleman needs to go too
If football were 45 minutes, he’d be a HOF coach
It ain't even worth it unless you want to,listen in the car/headphones and get things done.
He’s a rookie, it’s almost a given that he’s going to turn the ball over. He’ll learn from it.
Well his 2018 draft looks terrible right now.
Barkley is good but as the 2nd pick it was the wrong pick, hernandez has regressed, carter hill and rj mcintosh im not sure they are on the team anymore, and lauletta is gone.
Dont forget the supplemental 4rd round pick in beal cant get on the field.
Dont fool yourself. Shurmur sucks, one of the worst coaches of all time but gettleman needs to go too
Barkley has regressed to the point to where I wouldn't call him good anymore.
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2*-14 team
Don't even recognize this guy
The Maras aren’t gonna make the changes needed to turn this around — it’ll still be family & friends club (with an office for Chris Mara and whatever nephew needs a job). They aren’t gonna cede control to the type of ruthless football people the team needs at every level. They have little financial incentive with the $ still pouring in — and don’t hold your breath that they will be shamed into it.
Nice job asshole.
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to make up for how bad he has been in FA sn trades.
Well his 2018 draft looks terrible right now.
Barkley is good but as the 2nd pick it was the wrong pick, hernandez has regressed, carter hill and rj mcintosh im not sure they are on the team anymore, and lauletta is gone.
Dont forget the supplemental 4rd round pick in beal cant get on the field.
Dont fool yourself. Shurmur sucks, one of the worst coaches of all time but gettleman needs to go too
Barkley has regressed to the point to where I wouldn't call him good anymore.
Im hoping its just injury related but i agree since coming back from his ankle injury hes looked like a JAG
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He’s a rookie, it’s almost a given that he’s going to turn the ball over. He’ll learn from it.
The point is that there is a lot to like about the kid, but he has a lot to improve. If we have the #1 or #2 pick, we should be doing our homework on QBs. We criticize the organization for it's dysfunction. But forcing a player on a new coaching staff at such an important position reinforces the dysfunction. If as a fan you want a new staff, but want them to be forced to work with DJ, then don't ever criticize the dysfunction.
Nice job asshole.
what a perfect day!
giants are 100% in on the chase young sweepstakes
i am excited for a new coaching staff too
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
Yeah, I'm at the point where I'd say this is worse than Reese/McAdoo. What we didn't see under McAdoo that we're seeing here is the team-wide regression. The roster itself is getting worse by the week. McAdoo at his worst wouldn't have turned Barkley into an average player.
For the record, drafting Barkley at #2 was a mistake, and I don't even think Reese would've done that.
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we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
this has happened once in the nfl. Not going to happen.
i hope it doesnt...would suck.
hindsight is perfect vision but id love j allen last year and a sht at burrow this year lol.
that being said i think jones is going to be very good. we now have a chance to add young who is a better prospect than j allen was sooooo
That’s a new one?
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we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
I agree. If we can get a 5th rounder for DJ I'd take it...
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we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
Yup.
We've wasted two years with Gettleman. Acknowledge that, call it a sunk cost, and get to building a program.
A new regime might like Jones, but if we clean house (this means Chris Mara, Gettleman, Abrams, the scouts, etc) and the new regime wants Burrow, you draft Burrow, trade Jones, and keep moving.
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we draft Joe Burrough and trade Daniel? The new coaching staff is going to want their own qb.
The new staff should have the freedom to choose. No player should be forced on the new staff. We aren't a good enough team to have sacred cows. Everyone should be considered for slaughter.
I agree. If we can get a 5th rounder for DJ I'd take it...
I think you'd get a 1st rounder for Jones.
The way this team is regressing under Shurmur? If the Shurmur/Gettleman/Chris Mara regime comes back intact this year, book it, the Giants will go 0-16.
You cant ask this question if the bumbling old fool is still the GM here.
IF mara does the unthinkable and fires DG and bring in a new front office then its fair to ask this question since they didnt pick jones. Gettleman should not be allowed to pick a !B at 6 and then pick another !B at 1 the next year. That is gross incompetence