said the situation here is "ugly" and that Shurmur "knows what is coming" at the end of the season. Pretty much implied that he will be dismissed at the end of the season
RE: Daniel Jones has thrown 18 touchdowns in 10 starts.
Over a full season that equates to 29 touchdown passes. That doesn't include his rushing touchdowns. Eli threw for 29 or more touchdowns only four times in his career.
That would be a new NFL record for TD passes by a rookie QB and some are still not impressed despite the poor coaching, injuries, and poor OL.
The old "record" stood for less than a season. Some record.
Teams are throwing and winning with 3rd stringers and low round draft choices and some of them don't have the 2nd pick in a draft drawing attention for them.
I came to the conclusion that the Giants are the worst team in the NFL
today. They're basically dependent on a rookie QB not to be just good, but damn near perfect in order to win games. Their defense is embarrassingly bad. The Bengals have held their 3 most recent opponents under 20 points. The Giants have done that just twice the entire season. Washington ran for almost 250 yards today. How many games would it take for the Giants to reach 250 rushing yards? They couldn't get FIVE yards on three carries on the opening possession of the game. Jones cannot game manage them to a win with 15-20 attempts (like Ducky of the Steelers today) because the other aspects of the team are so weak that they must throw in order to score points. Today, he made quite a few mistakes, some nice plays, and displayed some serious toughness. That's life as a rookie QB.
Yes, the Giants are a young team with rookies playing a TON of snaps. But the o-line with 3 highly experienced players and 2 non-rookies is pathetic. The Giants didn't allow any sacks today, but does that mean the line played well. Of course not. The kid got hit left and right.
When the Giants fire Pat Shurmur after the season, they should let James Bettcher go first. The Giants defensive gameplans make zero sense. The other team has 1 good WR. The Giants don't put their lone good corner on him nor do they give the assortment of rookie DBs any help.
At one point early in the game, damn near every player who wears a "C" on his jersey for the Giants screwed up an assignment or messed up in some way.
RE: RE: I'm always surprised by how much fans cling to sacred cows
Burrow could be better. But Jones is a proven commodity. There's every reason to believe that he will be even better once the talent around him improves.
How many recent Giants players have actually gotten better as their young career progressed?
The only one I can think of now plays for the Browns.
Cherry picked? But pointing to his TD pass total isn't cherry picking?
Not only that, but a hypothetical TD pass total that hasn't even happened yet.
No one is saying that the team should move on from Jones. It's just that the mere idea of doing so should not be a non-starter for a new hypothetical coaching staff or regime. I don't think he should be a sacred cow unless the best the Giants can get for trading him is a second rounder.
That would be a new NFL record for TD passes by a rookie QB and some are still not impressed despite the poor coaching, injuries, and poor OL.
Teams are throwing and winning with 3rd stringers and low round draft choices and some of them don't have the 2nd pick in a draft drawing attention for them.
Yes, the Giants are a young team with rookies playing a TON of snaps. But the o-line with 3 highly experienced players and 2 non-rookies is pathetic. The Giants didn't allow any sacks today, but does that mean the line played well. Of course not. The kid got hit left and right.
When the Giants fire Pat Shurmur after the season, they should let James Bettcher go first. The Giants defensive gameplans make zero sense. The other team has 1 good WR. The Giants don't put their lone good corner on him nor do they give the assortment of rookie DBs any help.
At one point early in the game, damn near every player who wears a "C" on his jersey for the Giants screwed up an assignment or messed up in some way.
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The team is dogshit, and has been so for years, but still there are fans making the case for the sacred cows.
Gotta cling to something, I guess.
You trashed Jones but look at the stats above .....
The team is bad sure but you hate everyone on the team. You're just a whiny bitch
Amen Go Twerps is just a miserable person constant bitching
Go Away !
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Burrow could be better. But Jones is a proven commodity. There's every reason to believe that he will be even better once the talent around him improves.
How many recent Giants players have actually gotten better as their young career progressed?
The only one I can think of now plays for the Browns.
Good find.
Cherry picked? But pointing to his TD pass total isn't cherry picking?
Not only that, but a hypothetical TD pass total that hasn't even happened yet.
No one is saying that the team should move on from Jones. It's just that the mere idea of doing so should not be a non-starter for a new hypothetical coaching staff or regime. I don't think he should be a sacred cow unless the best the Giants can get for trading him is a second rounder.