I say give them one more year to show significant improvement. The cap won't be the problem next year. Add a couple free agents and hopefully they will draft well. They have a QB, RB, 2 linemen, 2 receivers...Defense, potentially 3 1st round defensive lineman, two outside linebackers and a developing young secondary. More change will create more chaos. This team has been heading downhill for years. It will take more then two seasons to turn it around.
But, on gameday these coaches are consistently poor in performance and outcoached. I can't look the other way on this, and trust the leadership won't either.
The other problem is what to do with DG. I'm hoping he cites his health and "steps down".
I'm of the mind that giving Shurmur another year is guaranteeing another wasted season. I've been wrong on this stuff before, but I don't see any evidence that this coaching staff has the ability to turn the team around, even with an infusion of talent.
But, on gameday these coaches are consistently poor in performance and outcoached. I can't look the other way on this, and trust the leadership won't either.
The other problem is what to do with DG. I'm hoping he cites his health and "steps down".
I had this thought as well. Can Shurmur,and DG steps down paving the way for a new regime.
Unfortunately even in that scenario Mara isn't going to change the power structure and give somebody full control.
You can see it in their complete lack of discipline and by their confusion in assignments.
How can a coach turn a team around if none of his players believes that he can?
Granted, the OL is not good, but it's not Christ Awful either; and with a 'generational' running back like Barkley, how can there be no running game at all? A good coaching staff would find plays to get Barkley some room to run. Something besides running him between the tackles all the time. This is a bad, bad, coaching staff.
And don't get me started on the defense. Even with a lack a talent, good coaching gets the most out of it's players. That's not happening with this staff.
Not sure Shurmur is the best man for the job, but year 2 is not the time to start yet another re-build plan. I bet both DG/PS get at least 2020 to make good.
we have seen not 1 thing to suggest this staff is the right group to lead us out of the abyss. Nothing.
The offensive play calling has been offensive. Just plain bad play calling from someone who is supposed to be good at creative O. maybe the master plan is to lose out and get the #1 pick but I watch the games and just cant understand why we use our personnel the way we do. Barkley up the middle over and over is just plain stupid.
The rookies and 1st year players do not seem to be improving either. thats the whole makeup of this team. Now Jenkins is calling out the coaches for the way they call the game and its just a situation getting worse by the game. they have to get rid of Shurmur, we will not see the type of progress that we need while he is running the show.
My gut is telling me now that we likely change all the staff.
Would anyone be shocked if DG and the coaches are all fired and a new GM and new staff brought in a few days after the season ends? Meaning the owners are already putting together a new staffing plan!!
Just no way Shurmur survives this. No chance.
My gut is telling me now that we likely change all the staff.
Would anyone be shocked if DG and the coaches are all fired and a new GM and new staff brought in a few days after the season ends? Meaning the owners are already putting together a new staffing plan!!
Just no way Shurmur survives this. No chance.
Wtf, why would u want to keep the staff? What have they done?
Yup. You hit the nail on the head. I've said it before, if Chris Mara is as good at his job as the Mara's think he is, then he will have no trouble landing on his feet when they mutually agree to part ways.... And if not, if he can't find a new job, perhaps that should serve as a lesson to John about nepotism....
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And frankly if Chris Mara keeps his job I don't think any of it matters.
Yup. You hit the nail on the head. I've said it before, if Chris Mara is as good at his job as the Mara's think he is, then he will have no trouble landing on his feet when they mutually agree to part ways.... And if not, if he can't find a new job, perhaps that should serve as a lesson to John about nepotism....
Does anyone on this board actually know what Chris Mara does and can provide a reason for him being terrible at his job? BBI loves to state nepotism but never anything else.
Also, Shurmur will be fired on 12/30. He's had 10+ weeks with Jones at QB to show the offensive improvement and hasn't. His roster isn't getting it done for him and his in game management is brutal
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And frankly if Chris Mara keeps his job I don't think any of it matters.
Yup. You hit the nail on the head. I've said it before, if Chris Mara is as good at his job as the Mara's think he is, then he will have no trouble landing on his feet when they mutually agree to part ways.... And if not, if he can't find a new job, perhaps that should serve as a lesson to John about nepotism....
Does anyone on this board actually know what Chris Mara does and can provide a reason for him being terrible at his job? BBI loves to state nepotism but never anything else.
Also, Shurmur will be fired on 12/30. He's had 10+ weeks with Jones at QB to show the offensive improvement and hasn't. His roster isn't getting it done for him and his in game management is brutal
No clue, but his title makes him sound like he has an important role in picking players. His title is, "Senior Vice President of Player Personnel." Personnel is right in his tittle.
Well I’m 65 and do not want to continue to see incompetence. Trust the many knowledgeable fans here, and Brian Baldinger, that the Giants coaches are clueless. We have to change until we get it right.
"More change will create more chaos"
Honestly, how could it get any worse and any more unstable? What? We'll win no games instead of 2? Our players will openly rebel against a new coach? The franchise will fold? Please tell me how you think a new head coach will create more chaos.
Gotta be Shurmur's wife or agent.