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“If you ask me, talent-wise in this locker room, they’re better than we were,” said Jacobs, who lives in Atlanta but made a trip to see his former team in Sunday’s 31-13 loss to the Packers at snow-swept MetLife Stadium. “Player for player, they have more talent. You have to understand, when we won Super Bowls, we didn’t have these amazing seasons.” ... “We had heart, we had leaders, and we also had some guys who plain old didn’t give a [expletive],” said Jacobs, a fourth-round pick in 2005 who played through the 2011 season before returning in 2013. He played for the 49ers in 2012. Jacobs sees plenty of talent on this year’s Giants team, just not enough wins. “You’ve got Saquon [Barkley], the best draft pick the Giants have ever had at the [running back] position,” Jacobs said. “They’re bigger. They’re more athletic than what we were all across the board.” ... “Everybody wants to point the thing at the coach, but I don’t think you can do that,” he said. “You can’t tell me the guys aren’t coming to work trying every day. Everybody says the team’s young. This isn’t college, bro. This is the NFL. Are we supposed to be terrible until everybody gets to six, seven years [in the NFL]? We always told the rookies, ‘Week 2, Week 3, it’s over. Ain’t no more rookies.’ ” Jacobs remains passionate about his former team and is willing to do whatever he can to help. “I would move back up here in a heartbeat if I knew I had an opportunity to help this team,” he said. “In a heartbeat.” |
Hopefully he isn't suffering from CTE.
I think he is somewhat right.
We don't have championship talent but we have at least enough talent to be average with the right coaching. And with the NFC east being shitty this year, a good coach could probably sneak this team into the playoffs.
One was when Bethea was all alone in the deep slot and never had a chance? Blown coverage?
And the one where Beal was turned around....why didn't they call a TO when Rogers rushed to the LOS.
Those 2 plays alone is purely coaching.
I don't care if Beal hasn't played much....this has been going on all year in year #2 of Betcher's system.
He explicitly says he doesn't think it's the fault of coaching.
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Those 2 plays alone is purely coaching.
He explicitly says he doesn't think it's the fault of coaching.
Then what’s the problem? If you have good talent and coaching then what’s the issue? Leadership on the field?
Yup. But a former player said it so it must be true.
I think he’s trying to say there isn’t enough leadership and fiery guys in the locker room.
I think. He sounds nutty here.
Miss the attitude Jacobs brought...maybe that’s what he’s getting at
That's all I got.
Uh, what?
Vets need to set the tone first but they haven't from what I can tell and their performance on field precedes them. Who does the locker room look to? X and O problems aside, whats the identity of this team? Saquon tries to be a spokesman but what good is that right now.
Culture issue was part of DG's plan. He may have some good pieces (may) but who are the leaders. DJ
However, I think coaching and scheme is holding this team back from at least being competitive.
But beyond that, Shurmur is nothing more than a .500 coach as his eventual high water mark...and that's low expectations.
He's the issue and needs to be fired at the end of the season.
Strahan Pierce Jacobs Madison McCquarters Canty Rolle - those super bowl teams had guys who played with fire and would not tolerate half assed effort or mental mistakes
Jesse Armstead is on the staff in some capacity, assistant to GM i think. Loved him in blue, great Giant imo. Never here that he's a coach though. Never.
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he say's it's not coaching, but then he goes on to say all of the young guys are talented and just not performing up to their talent.
I think he’s trying to say there isn’t enough leadership and fiery guys in the locker room.
I think. He sounds nutty here.
Miss the attitude Jacobs brought...maybe that’s what he’s getting at
Being fiery and all that is great, but you have to have talent to go along with it.
And when you have this many rookies playing, that matters. But that pass doesn't go into next year. Next year it's time for this group to nut up. He is correct that this team does have a lot of talent. There are still some problem areas of the roster, though. But there's enough there to start to win games. I'm way more optimistic about this team now than I was in 2017, though.
Ok.
But the HC keeps publicly telling everyone that they are young and not just young but “historically young” and thereby excusing mistakes and play and essentially alleviating accountability?
The HC message directly contradicts Jacobs message which after. A few weeks you aren’t a rookie anymore ie. Accountability for play and mistakes?
We do lack the bleed blue lunch pail guys, like Jacobs and Diehl. These are low round picks who just love and are grateful to the org given the chance to compete and play. Years of crappy drafting certainly killed us in that regard, instead we're stuck with moody Janoris Jenkins.
I felt in a lot of ways he was the heart of the 2007 team. Tough as nails and never intimidated. I think ultimately he may be saying too many pussies on the team in a nice way. Teams take on the personality of its coach.......
I felt in a lot of ways he was the heart of the 2007 team. Tough as nails and never intimidated. I think ultimately he may be saying too many pussies on the team in a nice way. Teams take on the personality of its coach.......
Last sentence hits the nail on the head. Eric had said a long time ago and others have remembered it since that Shurmur is "Milquetoast". And to me that's a perfect definition of this team.
I took this as a direct shot at coaching. Also a statement on the lack of leadership, passion, and communication. Who’s responsibility is that?
When ex players start chining in, after the Giant in house journalists throw dirt, it’s hard not to sense it being part of an orchestrated PR burial ritual of the HC.
I can't say I disagree because for the life of me I have no idea who the team leaders actually are with this bunch.
NYP
Hes saying it's on the players and they lack self/respect. They should be intrinsically motivated. It isn't scheme issues its effort issues and players should take blame.for that
The coaching seems sub par to me and is a problem.
But there is talent. That is why I think DG stays.
It's one or the other.
The coaching seems sub par to me and is a problem.
But there is talent. That is why I think DG stays.
Yup.